March 10, 2005 at 12:24 am #3154
I enjoyed your dream series tape that I bought a few years ago. It helped me get a better feeling for some of the energy channels in my body. But it didn’t have me traveling in other dimensions or become particularly lucid. Not yet at least.
I am admittedly handicapped by having a skeptical nature. I’d like to believe but need evidence. One of Stephen LaBerge’s earlier books on Lucid Dreaming had a short study that seemed to indicate most people who thought they were astral traveling were really just in lucid dreams. Other things I’ve read were heavy on anecdotes, but light on actual proof.
I put it to you directly. Is Astral travel possible? Can you do it and have you taught others to do it? If you picked a card out of deck without looking at it, put it unseen on a shelf. Would you know what the card was in the morning?
Also how confident are you that you could do it? Is it with the same confidence as if I asked can you pick up that pencil? Or is it more sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t.
P.S I’m also interested in others feelings on this subject. I’m old enough to not want to chase Siddhis, but astral travel if possible has some deep connotations to it.March 13, 2005 at 2:54 am #3155
Astral travel is possible. Clairvoyance is not dependent on what is commonly considered astral projection–a clear separation of the energy body from the physical with one’s centre of identity fully centred in that body. Clairvoyance is nothing special–anybody can do it and get good at it through training or might even be naturally gifted at it; but everyone has the inbuilt equipment.
Lucid dreaming does seem to me to be less of a full separation from the body, which some think is better, some think is less great; I think they’re just different.
Ingo Swann is excellent on those topics, and he is also good as a recommender of other books (René Warcollier, Russel Targ, Upton Sinclair). Also good: Robert Moss, Robert Bruce, Robert Monroe, Jane Roberts (anybody named Robert).March 14, 2005 at 11:43 pm #3157
I’ve paged through some of ‘Roberts’ books, matter of fact the very card experiment I mention came from one of them. I still didn’t get the unequivocal answer I was looking for.
Psy seems like quick silver. Slippery and elusive. Elusive to the point where self confidence can be a razors edge away from self delusion.
If its possible, its almost as easy to prove as picking up a pencil. And it has a shattering effect on what Westerners think of the mind and consciousness.
I think I can do just about anything the ‘top 10%’ of the population can do. For things that are highly specialized or take extreme dedication I don’t know. I juggle, 2nd degree black belt, college educated(?) w/ a sceptical but open mind.
If it can be done. I’d like to know it, and do it myself.
MichaelMarch 15, 2005 at 6:13 am #3159
Give it a try : )
If if doesn’t work you can always try again…
SimonMarch 15, 2005 at 3:24 pm #3161
Before this thread disappears into the nether regions–I recommend Mind Race by Russell Targ and Keith Harary (Targ is one of the scientists who worked with Ingo Swann and others in the original remote viewing experiments for the American intelligence community). A practical guide and quite an enlightened agenda (I think they pulled a fast one on those spys, and ended up turning it into an opportunity to finally break the back of materialistic science’s stranglehold on “psychic phenomena”, as well as to debunk misconceptions).
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