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qigong and schizophrenia

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  • June 21, 2013 at 9:32 pm #40764
    Steven
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    The yang practice is a nice practice to balance out the yin practice.
    Both definitely have their benefits.

    Cigarettes put the liver to sleep, while amplifying the heart fire.
    So you could have gotten some genuine amplification from the smoking.
    It definitely opens up the heart, and gives you an expanded consciousness.
    No question.

    Of course, as you know, this comes at a price.
    Continually putting the liver to sleep, prevents a natural release of anger.
    Repressed anger (liver) is the energetic vector for cancer.
    And the excess artificial heart fire damages the heart.

    S

    June 23, 2013 at 2:10 pm #40766
    nomad
    Participant

    thanks for making that clear, i guess i knew the heart part intuitively but not the liver part…..

    June 23, 2013 at 4:16 pm #40768
    Steven
    Moderator

    Yeah, and it is actually the liver that keeps the addiction going.
    The liver gets used to be sedated, so when the “sedative” wears off,
    it gets hyperactive and starts sending warning signals throughout
    the body that “something is wrong”, and tells the brain to send
    the message that you need to smoke and it will make you feel better.
    This is the addiction cycle.

    But continually keeping the liver asleep in this way, anger that
    normally would diffuse naturally . . . does not. It builds over time–
    repressed and stored in the liver (you are not aware of it).
    When this reaches critical mass, it triggers cancer.
    The energetic mechanism of cancer is repressed anger.

    This is why when people quit smoking, they get really angry,
    short-tempered, and irritable. This is simply an expression of
    all the stored anger finally starting to be released.

    It is actually the nicotine (chemical) that represses the anger.
    They have done studies showing how never-smokers who were given a
    nicotine patch, and then had them do frustrating/anger-invoking
    tasks, did not express the anger that those in the control group did.
    The problem is, is that the anger isn’t being relieved, it is being
    repressed and pushed down into the sedated liver.

    S

    June 25, 2013 at 11:37 pm #40770
    nomad
    Participant

    so it’s the nicotine and not the heat from the smoke…… but the smoke can cause fire in the heart, not the nicotine right….. i know nicotine accelerates the heart though…… can too much fire in the heart actually cause it to shut down?

    what causes the expansion of consciousness in the headspace that i associate with smoking?

    June 26, 2013 at 12:23 am #40772
    Steven
    Moderator

    The nicotine provides false fire; artificially stimulating the
    heart beyond what is healthy for it to do normally. It is the
    same problem with caffeine (e.g. coffee). All stimulants damage
    the heart. Heat and smoke from the actual cigarette smoke just
    amplify this external addition of artificial fire, so it is a
    double-whammy. This is why you see so many smokers die of a
    heart attack in their 50s (or earlier).

    Expanding the heart fire naturally via the Inner Smile is safe,
    because it is ultimately the body that decides how much to increase
    it, rather than an external source. This heals the heart, rather
    than damaging it. This is because you are doing the opposite:
    allowing rather than forcing. Allowing aligns you with the Tao,
    forcing is trying to resist the Tao.

    Most drugs interfere in the body’s natural wisdom,
    which is nourished by the Earth. Consequently, by their
    nature, they tend to be ungrounding. This causes energy to
    rise up into your head. This is effectively why it is called
    getting “high”. In your case, high on tobacco . . . which
    is just another drug. Fire, whether it is false or not,
    is a radiating energy. It is the five-element version of
    expansion. Putting the two together, you have overall
    movement of energy into the head and radiating outward.

    Smoking does a wonderful job of expanding your consciousness,
    and if you are mindful of it, it can connect you to a deeper
    level of understanding. I won’t deny this in the least.
    This is why the Native Americans fell in the love with it.
    The trouble is, is that you are performing a trade . . .
    trading your lifeforce for this benefit.

    Some qigong and associated meditation, when done deeply and
    over a long period of time, can achieve some of the same
    positive benefits, without the negative payment.

    S

    June 26, 2013 at 12:33 am #40774
    nomad
    Participant

    “This is why the Native Americans fell in the love with it.”

    yea, but the frequency with which they used the tobacco plant is not nearly as often as us modern day cigarette smokers use it, from what i hear……..

    June 26, 2013 at 12:57 am #40776
    Steven
    Moderator

    or the modern day Native Americans that smoke, for that matter.

    June 27, 2013 at 9:37 pm #40778
    nomad
    Participant

    hmm one thing though, you said most drugs are ungrounding……….and the high from cigarettes comes from the ungroundingness and energy rushing to the head…… while they do expand the headspace, i find cigarettes however to be very grounding in a way.

    an energy healer’s article I read online confirmed this, she said if you don’t smoke don’t start, but if you do, know that it is good to have a smoke after meditation as it is grounding.

    when i smoked stronger cigarettes, i would feel a strong current sometimes go down into my belly and down my legs, feeling like it grounded me to my body and the earth…….especially the first cigarette of the day after not smoking all night. i would also feel more energy in my hands sometimes. the downside is that if i don’t smoke even very light cigarettes i start to feel ungrounded, that’s the addiction.

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