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August 24, 2006 at 12:52 pm #16893FajinParticipant
Hwang-Tî, enjoying himself on the north of the Red-water, ascended to the height of the Khwan-lun (mountain), and having looked towards the south, was returning home, when he lost his dark-coloured pearl. He employed Wisdom to search for it, but he could not find it. He employed (the clear-sighted) Lî Kû to search for it, but he could not find it. He employed (the vehement debater) Khieh Khâu to search for it, but he could not find it. He then employed Purposeless, who found it; on which Hwang-Tî said, ‘How strange that it was Purposeless who was able to find it!’
August 24, 2006 at 1:27 pm #16895digdugParticipantpretty cool..
but question still stands..
just because planets may be able to “talk” to me doesn’t mean I know how to dial them up.. and just because they may be able to dial me..
well that just doesn’t answer the question
August 24, 2006 at 1:33 pm #16897digdugParticipantIt’s like everyone is missing my point..
i’ve done kan and li with some friends for several years.. and then recently greater kan and li..
I am asking a very concrete question, which is why this is so irritating
with the organs and orbit you simply have places to tune in to in your body
and with elements you simply have things to feel moving..but not one person has said what you are supposed to feel for Mars or Venus other than metal and fire.. which for venus doesn’t even match other astrology
A picture just cannot compensate for this..
Statues in ancient China channeled by adapts that tell you the correct shape and tones could.. but not some picture out of a magazine..
I mean come on, there’s got to be something more concrete here.. I mean if you are just supposed to resonate with Michael Winn that leaves some endless channel of resonators who would seemingly be lost without each other..
but the cd never even says that..
August 24, 2006 at 1:33 pm #16899FajinParticipantHi,
“Nothing” can answer your question. It can answer any questions.
We are already absorbing cosmic frequencies every moment. When you do “nothing,” this happens all by itself and you soon feel the planets, just as Daoist adepts of the past did through stillness meditation.
One of the reasons I consider stillness meditation to be a prerequisite before ANY alchemical work.
Fajin
August 24, 2006 at 1:36 pm #16901digdugParticipantI walk around every day of my life and never “feel” a planet and I did kan and li for years and never “felt” a planet..
you are supposed to be dialing these things up somehow the same way you do the water or metal element through stuff like the outdoor lake and sunshine exercise..
August 24, 2006 at 1:42 pm #16903wendyParticipantInstead of wining about pictures, just grap one from internet and start to work with it. Of course do they work, why do you think we have pictures and statues of saints, christ, buddha, etc because they tend to vibe. You live in a time/space zone were we have access to visual images so stop wining about caves and the Old Ones. We live in the present and you should be glad to have all this tools to work with.
Medicine developed rapidly once people were allowed to open and access a death body, so they could ‘see’ the organs/tissues.
If you really want to know how it is supposed to ‘feel’ buy the book on cosmic healing. But still you will have to develop a personal connection with the planets, YOUR inter-planetary language.
Tell me what do you feel on the right part of your skull?
August 24, 2006 at 2:08 pm #16905digdugParticipantyour defense to some absurd imaginary picture issue is to start insulting people
August 24, 2006 at 2:10 pm #16907digdugParticipantthe question is not whether I can look at a picture brought by a telescope of Saturn and “pretend” I am a planet..
it’s how did however many thousands of years of adapts connect to these supposed planets
obnoxious isn’t a strong enough word for it but I’ll be polite..
you probably still believe in Santa Claus
August 24, 2006 at 2:54 pm #16909wendyParticipantYou don’t ‘pretend’ anything, you open yourself to it, it is a yin practice, you stay humble as a little human dwarf, you bow for the magnitude of this compressed stardust. And you bow even deeper if the planets start to sing for you.
You did not answer my question, what do you feel on the right side of your skull?
August 24, 2006 at 3:00 pm #16911digdugParticipantincluding by you..
Are you able to explain what these planets feel like?
is Venus moody? perhaps warm and moist one day and cool and dry the next : ?
or is wha tthey feel like somehow left to the great mystery of time?
August 24, 2006 at 3:05 pm #16913wendyParticipantI can answer for each planet how it feels for me, I have a class in 10 minutes, I come back when finished and tell you how they feel for me at this moment… you tell me what you feel on the right sight of your skull…deal 🙂
August 24, 2006 at 3:25 pm #16915digdugParticipanti really don’t know what you mean by the skull thing though
August 24, 2006 at 3:26 pm #16917digdugParticipantAugust 24, 2006 at 5:48 pm #16919wendyParticipantOkay here is my planetary journey of today.
During class I used music – I teach people how to stretch their body and how to relax it – without that you can’t meditate properly, at least that is my take.
I tuned in to the 5 major planets, but as the music is interfering with the planetary frequency I couldn’t hear the sounds itself, instead the sound was changed into visionary ‘sounds’.
The connection is related to your own personal map, so my connection is different than yours because of my personal issues.
For instance when tuning in to Saturn, it gave a straight rather hard white-yellowish line ‘sound’ in the center of my head, which connected straight to the stomach and created a sick feeling that was relieved through belching.I always have a careful relationship with Mars, front of the skull, which directly connects with the heart in red waves with small amplitude. I take little Mars in the heart because of the ‘big’ power it radiates.
The most difficult one for me is Mercury, dark, very slow ‘sound’ with large amplitude waves – back of the skull to the kidneys.
Venus had a very hard white hot feeling (like hot white metal) which was already very activated by my questions to you about what you feel on the right part of your skull.
Jupiter creates a solid spot on the left side of my skull, like a hole in my head, it moves my jaw, like it brings my upper and lower jaw in a better position, which feels weird to me, from the jaw it goes to my liver which starts to be painful. I can’t remember its wave pattern.This was a quick go with the planets because I leave my class only for 15 minutes in meditation.
The three other planets, Uranus, Neptunus and Pluto I did not access, the interfering of the music with these planets just doesn’t work well, the higher the vibes the less noise I can bare.
That is why monks stay in caves my guess. I can’t stand noise when connecting with higher frequencies.
I never play music in the house, I like the silence best.August 24, 2006 at 7:29 pm #16921IntelligenceParticipantthe q is normal
the response is not
most people would scoff at the whole premise
these “answers” look terrible
however much like birds I think people have magnetic sense perception
ask Mr. Winn
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