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September 6, 2007 at 1:14 pm #24233ludrupParticipant
Hi guys
Thanks for your responses. The article was very helpful and gave me a new direction to look in. I do appreciate Nnonnth’s comments because it does seem as if there may be an underground of people diligently working with these processes who have no access to high level teachers who are running into difficulties. I would assume from this, and other postings, I have put up that most people either have no experience of these issues or do not know where to go when they encounter problems.
L
September 6, 2007 at 1:44 pm #24234Alexander AlexisParticipantHi L,
Don’t assume there isn’t another reason for people not responding much right now. Some might just not want to go there right now for personal reasons.
As has been suggested, there are probably many who have undergone the difficulties you mention. I think you might address your question to Michael specifically and see what he can tell you. He must be preoccupied now since he normally chimes in on things like this.
For me personally, the path seems to change as I go along because of where I am in my process at the moment. Sometimes things are predictable and can be handled using some form or technique. But I find that most of the time it is more a situation of having to go with what is happening and allow it to instruct me. In other words, you might not be “missing a piece” you think will correct the situation for you, but that your system is leading you in deeper and that you need to attend to where it takes you, to your stimulated liver chi, for instance, to see what that is telling you, and then go from there, not assuming that you are simply stuck at the same place again and can’t get through; it could be an entirely new place with regard to your growth.
Have you been practicing “listening”? I’d do that first before I conclude I need a techniquey approach. My view of all practices and our growth in general is that it is about communication and relationship, and that that is what leads to wholeness and harmony.
Best, A
September 6, 2007 at 2:22 pm #24236Alexander AlexisParticipantI went to read that article Christopher posted and decided to add this-
What has been successful for me in sexual relations is to allow the energy to move freely through me and circulate with “her”. This does not mean controlling “it”, the energy, because I can’t. What I can control is how I be with it. As you probably know, the more relaxed you are the more things flow. When you hit up against an inner block you feel pain or resistance or discomfort; the energy builds uncomfortably. This is where the work needs to be done to release the block- how you are blocking. The key is relaxing into it.
“Good sex” means the mind and the body are uniting smoothly as heart- that is love-making. There is less and less concern about personal satisfaction, which is what tends to clog most things in life, and more and more attention on sharing, flow and love. So, what I am finding which is universal to all the issues and conditions of my life is that the less concerned I am with myself the better things turn out. I think this is why Carrezza and similar approaches work so well. They are not special techniques as much as they are simply NATURAL. It is natural to encourage the lifeforce to flow by loving touch which focuses of giving and receiving mutually with fulfillment rather than release as the goal.
I find it important to continually remind myself also that what I am circulating is mySelf not something apart from me that we like to call “love” or “spirit” or lifeforce”. That thing we are making when we make love is what we really are- we are the love, the lifeforce, divine essence. We are simply bringing more of ourselves down into our bodies.
I say this to emphasize my point that we should move away from too techniquey an approach because as human souls we respond to more personal and nurturing ways, natural ways, rather than artificial means which can be cold and manipulative of us.
Enjoyment,
AlexanderSeptember 6, 2007 at 2:42 pm #24238ludrupParticipantHi Alexander
Thanks for that. I really appreciate you reminding me of being in a space to differentiate between stuckness and process. If I look back on my process with this work, I do see a real sense of change and transformation along with times that seemed very held and contracted. However, just relaxing into those spaces does allow the flow or the solution to present itself.
I guess I am can still get trapped in that space of looking towards an outside authority who has all the answers, without fully recognising my own inner wisdom.
Love and smiles
L
September 7, 2007 at 12:39 am #24240Alexander AlexisParticipant -
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