September 3, 2007 at 4:38 pm #24104
Sorry I haven’t been around much lately. Hope to be able to make more of a contribution from now on.
I have a question for those of you with experience in the sexual chi kung. I have been studying these practices, first with Mantak Chia and then with Michael, on and off for about 10 years. I find that in practising with a partner during sex, I am really able to transform and recycle our joint energy and that we are both able to access deep states of balance. However, after I have experienced this i get really horny for the next few days and feel like I have to have ejaculatory sex again quickly.
I have also found that in my solo practice a similar situation arises – I am able to contain and circulate a lot of sexual energy but quickly get to a place of feeling very sexually frustrated which then begins to agitate my liver chi creating a strong emotional backlash.
I wonder if anyone else has similar experiences and how have you overcome them? I wonder if I am missing a piece. I do also regularly practice fusion as well so I am not skimping on the emotional work.
Love to find an answer
LudrupSeptember 5, 2007 at 1:03 pm #24105
I thought this article was rather interesting.September 6, 2007 at 7:55 am #24107
… you aren’t the first person who’s mentioned these things. Not necessarily on here, not sure about that, but definitely I have had people tell me the same thing. I am not practicing the HT sex techniques right now so I can’t help you. If there are common problems they really should be talked about I think. jSeptember 6, 2007 at 11:15 pm #24109
It sounds – like most people – your sexual energy is still volatile, despite your practice. This is case especially with people who have intense sexual energy due to genetics or astrology, It can be exacerbated by fluctuations in planetary chi field that are happening currently – we live in a volatile time period, and it tends to play out first in our sexual energyies, which are more tangible. And don’t be self-judgemental about your practice failing – this is THE core human issue and requires many levels of practice to really deal with.
I consider it mostly a problem of grounding – mixing more earth chi with your sexual jing chi might solve it. Try more deep earth pulsing (from Sexual Vitality Qigoing DVD) before having sex….or try the John Mann method (which I renamed Silent Tantra) of sitting opposite your sex partner silently, no touch, allowing your energy bodies to spontaneously dissolve any tension. This process is described mroe deeplyon my week long retreat Healing Love CDs. Its a shortcut to clearing soul tension between partners….
I don’t know if you’ve learned lesser kan & li, but sometimes shifting to the soul level is needed to resolve issues expressing physically.
I’ve recently developed a new sexual practice, designed to make inner male and inner female copulation so REAL that it totally grounds volatile sexual energy. i’m teaching it out next week at Stonehenge/UK retreat on Deeper Inner Sexual Alchemy, and will probably make it available as recording. It’s so powerful and so internally grounded I wonder why it took me all these years to see it….
Key is having core space open enough AND receptive enough to hold the sexual volatility, and second problem is to get the sexual energy into the core. This practice does it. It may become my favorite practice….I can’t stop doing it…..or it won’t stop doing me. Also links in sun and moon chi as stabiliser.
I know telling you about a practice you can’t get yet doesn’t really help you immediately, but its not something I’d risk teaching on the net.September 8, 2007 at 6:13 pm #24111
My practice lately is mostly solo – deep emotional issues being worked out with my partner, which evaporates her sexual energy, especially when combined with a low libido – but I have found that Lesser Kan and Li GREATLY improves my ability to circulate sometimes overly abundant sexual energy. Guiding the sexual energy into a union with my internal partner/self provides a satisfying release/expression of that energy. I do not always abstain from ejaculation, but I do feel that the need for physical release is much less that it has been.
I recently had a wonderful experience that I’d like to share, which also might help:
While copulating internally, the microcosmic orbit spontaneously started up in the ‘backwards’ direction. Orbit energies extended from my penis (I really don’t like that word, but realize that others might find more colorful language offensive) in an electrical arc entering my internal partner and continuing to arc through her, exiting the crown of her head, arcing above her head and then entering the crown of my head, continuing down my spine and then continuing to circulate. On the return loop, a second orbit opened up, this one going in the forwards direction. The second orbit enveloped the first orbit in a juicy embrace – imagine being able to enter your lover and embrace your lover’s penis at the same time. Each orbit moves very freely – one joyfully extending itself into the other, the other joyfully embracing and swallowing. When this energy is really rolling my penis no longer feels like a regular penis, it kind of feels more like a long clitoris. The sense of maleness opens to embrace the female and my sexual organs no longer feel distinctly male to me.
I’m guessing that this meditation could be done on its own, but I’m not sure. I offer it in the hope that it will help. Also with a bit of trepidation and embarrassment about sharing things that are this personal.
-mlSeptember 8, 2007 at 9:28 pm #24113September 10, 2007 at 9:38 am #24115
Internal Sexual alchemy is designed to re-grow an androgynous energy body. I’ve had countless experiences, both solo and partnered, that would be considered bizarre to most. So thanks for sharing the flavor of what is possible in the sexual-energetic realms of transformation.
One of my favorites was when, during lesser kan and li practice, my crown opened up and the “Penis of God” descended into my core channel and began humping me (as the human whole-body yoni) from above…..:Fantastic orgasm, but made me wonder about God’s sexual motifivation in creating little human playthings….)September 10, 2007 at 1:01 pm #24117September 10, 2007 at 2:19 pm #24119
I really appreciate this conversation, starting with Ludrup, and for Dolphin’s willingness to share the personal, for its ability to bring out the understanding that so much of the alchemical process is individual and spontaneous -organically developed by the lifeforce and whomever it is speaking with at the time.
It is well worth staying with the sometimes interminable feeling of learning and process so that a culmination can happen which brings one to a stage of fulfillment and completion.
Smiling at the Possibilities,
AlexanderSeptember 10, 2007 at 9:37 pm #24121September 10, 2007 at 9:57 pm #24123
(I have to remember that I can’t hit the return button to get to the body of the comment.)
That was great Michael, thanks.
I have a bit more to add to my previous comment. Masturbation in what now feels like the old fashion, doesn’t feel so good anymore. In a way it’s a good thing that I have to work out my sexual energy on my own right now as it helps me focus on what is happening inside of me. There are times when I wish that wasn’t so.
Learning how to handle the changing sexual energy is quite a challenge. Sexual energy is building from the Lesser and other practices, and sometimes feels like it needs typical release, but a gratifying method of release has been eluding me. This is making me question the need for release and helping me realize that my previous handling of sexual energy was mostly unconscious. Arggh.
-MichaelLSeptember 21, 2007 at 2:56 pm #24125
you cultivate nice
my focus is on trust
so when mad i trust
even when emitting poisonous gas
yet when i die to dream i trust
so yesterday took three of me to transform
it involved a choke hold by me on me so that a third me stuck in the heart of second me could be flushed on, and the me in choke-hold had trust
so today is a good day
for next mad
mad is a sexual energy getting polarized to mad
so a master practice is of balance that is done through tranmutation
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