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December 14, 2005 at 1:50 pm #9444Faceless-MageParticipant
Michael
In one your articles you said something like ; death results with the termination of the dialogue among the jing shen and the goal of neidan is to integrate them,
According to what i understand from what i read, the jing shen reside in the organs, so how then can someone who has an organ transplant continue to be alive, and also, would it be possible fot such a person to ever become an immortal ?
December 15, 2005 at 1:24 am #9445Michael WinnKeymasterYour jingshen live everywhere in your consciousness; one aspect of their physicalization is the physical organ and meridian through which they operate.
spirts are ineffable, not to be confused with the physical organ.
But they can trael with the organ during its transplant, as the physical cells hold hte nergy body patterns.
If a transplant person cultivated deply and integrated the new shen, I see no reason why they could not achieve high levels.
Minke de Vos, a healing Tao instructor from Canada, had a heart transplnt recently, and will be writing about her experience, as well as teaching at Dao Mtn. next summer.
michael
December 15, 2005 at 1:36 am #9447jsritParticipantWhoa that is very shocking. I sent Minke $100 check to send me some of her tapes, no reply.
Seperately, I am wondering what happened to her heart! Why was it replaced?
December 15, 2005 at 10:28 am #9449.freeform.ParticipantI also heard that it is very hard to get hold of Minke… but to my surprise the day after i emailed her, I got a reply (I wanted to buy some of her cds also) – she told me that she will find out the shipping charges for the cds and email me back… and that’s the last i heard of her. Her cds really do sound pretty good, it’s a shame no one can purchase them 🙁
December 15, 2005 at 12:36 pm #9451baguaParticipantHi:
Much of Chinese Metaphysics, including Chinese Medicine and Nei dan is based on “Systems of Correspondences”, this is a way to group aspects of life based on their common relatinships and the inseparable relationship of life. The Five Shen are part of this model, organs, elements, shen, directions, planets are all part of this “System of Correspondences”, thinking about this and directly experiencing this is in my view a key to alchemy. The White Cloud lineage is part of this, M. Chia and his writing contributors have emphasized these relationships.
If we see the creative force and all its correspondences as one inseperable whole, then there is no such thing a shen being separate from the whole. On an individual basis, the taoist practices maintain a harmony of our three treasures, if you prefer you can call them the Five Shen, there is no difference, just a different model for the same thing.
Having harmony within, allows one to experience the harmony of the whole and the universal “Systems of Correspondences”, we are both the microcosm and macrososm, in my view this is realizing our immortal nature.
December 16, 2005 at 10:43 pm #9453thelernerParticipantI picked up some of her guided meditation CD’s 3 years ago at Tao Mountain. They are great. Her Tao Basics is a must have, 4 great guided meditations including Micro cosmic orbit, Deep body smile (30 minutes fusion like), Sexual Energy, and Energy meditation. All have binaural sounds, sound effects, go deeply into each subject, ie the micro cosmic orbit includes the macro.
Since then I’ve been gotten more, her Fusion I, and her breathing CD’s. They’re all like taking an indepth class.
It would be great to have her CD’s available here. I’d love to get the Kan and Li and Fusion II meditations.
Peace
Michael
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