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Question for Michael Winn on chi gong vs. Nei gong

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  • This topic has 5 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 20 years, 1 month ago by esotericwarrior.
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  • April 19, 2005 at 5:35 pm #4772
    esotericwarrior
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    Hey there everybody,

    Anyone with a real answer please feel free to chime in, I only addressed it to Michael as I am hoping for him to answer.Michael, I have your fundamentals 3 and 4 video and audio.In there you mention that breath centered chi gong practices can lead to chi deviation.My first question is what exactly is a chi deviation?My second question is, do you mean breath practices like breathing in certain patterns around the body, cause I have been practicing the orbit by using reverse breathing, as I inhale I bring the energy up and exhale the energy down.Is this dangerous?What about breathing into the dan tien?Does this count as a breath method or nei gong since it is for yuan chi development?Would you suggest just focusing on the dan tien rather than breathing into it for standing practice? Hhehehehe looks like I got more than two questions! Thanks for your time Michael, and everyone else, I really appreciate the help!

    Sean

    April 19, 2005 at 10:03 pm #4773
    The Nothingness
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    Your thinking to much!
    That is dangerous.

    You can breathe in all different ways, but when all else falls..
    Navel breathing is the Heart of the DAO.

    Your Spirits True Breath!

    Keep it natural though.
    Well in order to get something natural you got to try all the different
    techniques and then just let go and have the DAO take over.
    Then your on your Way!

    April 19, 2005 at 10:54 pm #4775
    Michael Winn
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    April 19, 2005 at 11:08 pm #4777
    esotericwarrior
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    Thank you Michael that was very helpful.However I am still left with the question about the orbit.You say excessive focus on physical breathing is dangerous in channel breathing, which makes sense, but now I am confused as to how to run the orbit.Should you be coordinating the movement of the energy with your breath at all or just ignore the breathing and run energy up and down the channels? Thanks again for your time and help.

    Sean

    April 21, 2005 at 12:16 am #4779
    Michael Winn
    Keymaster

    Use physical breath as a kickstart, then shift to internal breathing.
    michael

    April 21, 2005 at 1:27 am #4781
    esotericwarrior
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    Thank you very much Michael, your replies are quite helpful.It is interesting how they quite effectively lead to a new level of understanding when I listen to your audios.It makes my practice much more effective.Now when you talk about internal breathing on the audio it sound slike soemthing that kind of just happens,You practice and after a while your body “learns” or rediscovers how to do it and then you got it.Is this pretty much how its done, you don’t do it you just use the physical breath and after practicing for a while you “get” internal breathing?

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