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Question on accessing early heaven qi

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  • April 8, 2006 at 3:07 pm #12563
    Fajin
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    The main difference for me seems that Michael attempts to access the prenatal, early heaven qi within the body, while Mantak goes at magnetizing postnatal, later heaven qi out of the body. Mantak uses visualizations of animals, planets, and stars and such. What does one do in Michael’s practice, visualize that within the body? I;m not trying to rip off the method of practice on this website or anything, I’m just curious to know how one accesses early heaven.

    In fundamentals #1, you speak to the vital organ shen, is this a way of accessing the early heaven within the vital organs. By doing so, you access not just, the qi of the organ, but you penetrate into the more spiritual level of the organs found in early heaven. How do you do this though? Like, do you practice visualizations of black holes, or does it spontaneously emerge from practice, or what must one do to access early heaven? I’m not skeptic on this, as I know it has worked for people like Singing Ocean, Michael, Trunk, etc., but I just don’t understand how Michael figured out how this is done. It fascinates me! Any replies on this would be great.

    Thanks,
    Fajin

    April 8, 2006 at 8:47 pm #12564
    singing ocean
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    It is good to keep in mind that this is a process that continually goes deeper. The vital organ shen are accessed by activating as many of their resonant pathways as possible: color, virtue quality, season, smell, taste, sound. Eventually through repeated communication, the pathway and the answer from the shen becomes stronger. The five phases and yin-yang yuan are really the key to alchemy because they occur at all levels: human, planetary and stellar, as well as interdimensionally.

    I am not absolutely sure, but I think Mantak’s focus is on something slightly different that the yin-yang-yuan trinity, or it is not clearly articulated in that way with that focus. It may be more on gathering raw purple cosmic qi from the polestar; and all stars are essentially portals into the layers of neutral space, but they are distant from the human frequency and hard to access unless one has built up the pathway.

    April 8, 2006 at 9:33 pm #12566
    Fajin
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    That’s what I like about Michael’s practice, he penetrates straight into early heaven, a much deeper, if not deepest, level than the level Mantak is working on. But, the question is, through Mantak’s practice of accessing the postnatal realm, does one eventually penetrate to the prenatal realm? I guess it does, as it must in every path in one way or another. But seeing this being Tibetan Buddhist, ie. Powa, it goes external to internal or later heaven to early heaven. Michael’s practice truly reflects the Dao alchemical process if it is what he says it is.

    Singing Ocean,

    You said we go deeper with colours, seasons, etc. and the communication via the pathway is well recognized and we communicate with vital organ shen. So, how is the communication between early heaven recognized in the higher levels like Kan and Li and Star Alchemy? Thanks for the feedback.

    Smiles,
    Fajin

    April 9, 2006 at 3:50 am #12568
    singing ocean
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    Fusing the five elements of the organ qualities are the foundation to fusing the deeper polarities of yin and yang to open the neutral space (on different interdimensional levels). Each higher formula simply fuses and draws in more stable polarities from the mind of nature in different cauldrons in the body to create deeper levels of neutral space. The first formula of opening the channels and creating the vessel is really the most complex because the whole process (that is being made conscious) is “new”.

    April 9, 2006 at 4:05 am #12570
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