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May 9, 2005 at 2:00 am #5484DCParticipant
I mentioned in a post a few days ago how I am studying the methods of
Taoist Master CK Chu from NYC who has written a couple of books on Nei Kung, Meditation and Tai Chi. His meditation methods are very simple and require no vizualizations or circling of the microcomsic orbit, he is very highly regarded as a Taoist Master yet his Meditation methods differ some much from yours and Chia’s methods.My Question is have you heard of Master Chu and what is your opinion of his methods, would you class his methods as Traditional Taoist Methods.
Here is a link to his website, his book are also available through Amazon.
DC
May 9, 2005 at 2:41 pm #5485Soaring Spirit FeatherParticipantHey,
Michael is still in Italy teaching Greater Kan & LI. He’ll return in the next week, possibly he can answer you then.
Cool website, nice energy from it…
peace
mike 🙂May 10, 2005 at 12:23 am #5487MaxParticipantDC,
Original taoist methods had very few if any visualization techniques. As the time went by many masters observed the movement of subtle energies within the body and recorded them in scriptures. Some thought and still do that by copying those energy movements you help to speed up the process or clearing and openning up the channels. Others think differently on this matter.If you like to know more on this, I would recommend reading any books by Nan Huai-Chin. He teaches the same principals of spiritual cultivation as Master Chu.
Also read on Kuan Yin Method of cultivation. It will help you answer many questions you might have.
Metta
Kuan Yin MethodMay 10, 2005 at 3:09 am #5489DCParticipantThanks for the informative reply Max. I purchased a Chia book on how to circulate the Microcosmic orbit and personally I just felt too confused with put your mind here and put your mind there. The thing I like about Chu’s methods are they are just very simple and effective, the most vizualistaion it requires is in one of the stages you focus on the dan tien for a while prior to going into emptying the mind. It makes sense to me that if your Chi is strong and you mind is empty the Chi will flow unobstucted to areas which need healing.
DC
May 10, 2005 at 3:14 am #5491DYNAMITE MUDParticipantYo,
Better check out these articles before spinning the precious chi.
http://meditationexpert.com/Articles/spin-your-chi-is-wrong.htm
http://www.embracethemoon.com/portal_to_presence.htm
http://meditationexpert.com/Articles/SpinYourChi.htm
http://meditationexpert.com/Articles/donotspinchichakras.htm
Most of the qi gong masters (about 90 percent) I met said the same thing if you want longevity, dont ever spin your chi by using the mind to force it.
Another article from one of Bruce Kumar students (also an X-HT adept) – HAAHAHAHOHOHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.taobum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=92&start=0
Peace out!!
May 10, 2005 at 5:50 am #5493DCParticipantThanks again for the great articles,Chi Spinning is not for me, I prefer to work towards and empty mind and let the Chi flow where it needs to go, this is what Spiritual Cultivation is all about. Everything that has been posted above is pretty much exactly what Master Chu states, the heart of meditation lies in an empty mind. My practice is simple, Meditation for spiritual cultivation and chi development, and also Nei Kung for internal strength and energy (chi) cultivation. I cannot see why you would complicate things with all of these vizualiztions and constant circualtion of the orbit.
May 16, 2005 at 2:51 pm #5495Michael WinnKeymasterHaving lived in NYC for 20 years, I am familiar with CK CHU, as I knew one of his senior teachers. He is best known as a tai chi teacher and martial artist who enforces rigorous practice of horse stance. He later came out with meditation books that were mixture of chan (zen) and taoist styles. I would classify him as “traditional”, with emphasis on physical training plus simple taoist meditation.
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