November 27, 2006 at 5:45 pm #19533
What where the 7 original formulas One Cloud transmitted to Chia?
Thanks!November 27, 2006 at 9:17 pm #19534
I don’t know Mantak Chia, like Michael & others that seen him all the time while in NY and throughout the last 26+ years,from my understanding these are the old descriptions, alot has evolved over the years. Healing Sounds not sure if they were taught by White Cloud to Mantak Chia; he had other teachers besides White Cloud…Snowlion
The formulas are: The Inner smile, Microcosmic Orbit, Opening the Six Special Channels. The Fusion of the Five Elements, Developing the Immortal Fetus, Enlightenment of the Kan and Li, Sealing the Five Sense Organs, Congress of Heaven and Earth, and the Reunion of Man and Heaven.
Excerpt from Jamapa Mckenzie article
Chia describes the mountain Taoist lineage he was to inherit from I Yun: My master’s teacher, the grand master, had studied under Taoist masters in the temples for 40 years. When this grand master understood enough, he retired to a cave to practice in solitude in solitude. He could not duplicate the environment of the temple in a cave, however. There were no statues, and no one else was around to appreciate such things as rituals or ceremonies. [So he turned inward, and discovered that it was all inside of him.] “After about ten years of studying in the Taoist temple, my master decided to apprentice himself to the grand master in the cave. But like many adepts of his time, the grand master lived a secluded life in a very inaccessible place. It was even difficult to carry enough food for the journey. Eventually my teacher made his way to his master’s cave, but after a short period of introduction, the grand master left his body during meditation and didn’t return to it for weeks. My master ran out of food and had to leave. “The next time he was smarter. When he went to the cave, he took more food and a brush. He dusted off the grand master’s body, which was in a state of suspended animation, and he protected it from predatory animals. The grand master would occasionally come back, open his eyes, and see that he was being taken care of before he’d go out of his body again.
“Finally, when the grand master came back and realized that he would soon be leaving for good, he began to teach the system to my master who stayed with him for about three years.” Once Master I Yun accepted Chia as a disciple, Chia began his studies of the Taoist way of life in earnest. From I Yun, he learned the Taoist Inner Alchemical Meditation formulas of the Inner smile, Microcosmic Orbit, Opening the Six Special Channels. The Fusion of the Five Elements, Developing the Immortal Fetus, Enlightenment of the Kan and Li, Sealing the Five Sense Organs, Congress of Heaven and Earth, and the Reunion of Man and Heaven. It was I Yun Who authorized Chia to teach and heal. One day, I Yun also gave him some advice that was eventually to revolutionize Chia’s approach to teaching. The master said to him: “The Westerners have much knowledge of the human body that can benefit us in our understanding of Inner Alchemy practice. I am too old to learn their ways myself, but you are round and have time. You should study Western anatomy.” So, caking the insights of his master to heart. Chia spent two years studying Western medical science and anatomy. During this time he created several novel methods of dissection because he needed to explore the human body in new and uncharted ways to understand how some of the Taoist Internal Alchemical changes could physiologically take place.November 27, 2006 at 9:32 pm #19536
Hi Bak Mei,
Another thought with this is, that I highly recommend if you desire to learn this
great system as friendly advice, is I recommend Michaels material in the beginning,
you will learn clearly, deeper & faster than with a book, or other sources.
Michael has alot of useful insights, refinements that are practical & highly useful on his disc series, live would be better, easy to understand also. His approach is excellent also. I took alot of workshops with Mantak Chia and have studied with Michaels Material later & also Ron Diana…if I were new today I would of reverse the course just for the learning curve and all the questions that might be running through the mind.
The practice is great have been practicing this system since 14 and has served me great.
Take Care…SnowlionNovember 28, 2006 at 2:42 am #19538
Thanks Snowlion, I appreciate your response and advice. I currently have the Chi Kung fundamentals 1-4 , Fusion I II III, and Lesser Kan & Li. I am taking my time with the latter material. I have some of Chia’s material also; as well as DaMo material by Hu Xuezhi. I really like the DaMo, it seems to be a traditional lineage. However, it is not a laypersons practice. What I like about Winn is his ability to effectively explain these systems in an uncomplicated manner.November 28, 2006 at 12:56 pm #19540
I know the da mo you talk about, its a nice form. Hu’s Tao Teh Ching is quite good and I would recommend it to anybody. It does talks lots about Alchemy. For those dao purists, they may struggle with the buddhist influence, he merges the two.
baguaNovember 28, 2006 at 4:43 pm #19542
I do notice the buddhist influence. They incorporate mudras and some sound.
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