March 11, 2007 at 10:54 am #21616
Atum – A primordial god that was represented in the form of a human and a serpent. He was the supreme god in the Heliopolitan Ennead (group of nine gods) and formed with Re to create Re-Atum.March 11, 2007 at 3:59 pm #21617
Aren’t all these folks atlantean immortals that have been deified by the human priesthood?March 11, 2007 at 4:50 pm #21619March 12, 2007 at 9:42 am #21621
If the gods were merely the Atlanteans deified, this begs the question who did the Atlanteans worship? Because they certainly worshipped gods according to Plato.March 12, 2007 at 10:11 pm #21623
The worship of deities was and is a dumbing down of the transmission from the sun which taught the secrets to immortality (this relates to Jesus but pre dates him). I never heard of Atlateans being deified. I have heard of Caucasians being deified, such as Ra and his wife Isis. To worship Micheal or your Lung spirit would create limitations in your practice it would take away from your center. I will say this that I do notice some emotional bodies are suited for worship, especially Indians (life is vast and different).
They serpent part of Atum is interesting and would love to hear peoples storys on this.March 13, 2007 at 7:05 am #21625
What about the transmission from the Earth,Sea,Trees, Stars etc? What about shamans who interact (not necessarily worship) with gods, nature spirits, power animals etc. These beings are personified forces of nature with their own autonomy and their own connection to centre not dumbed down transmissions. Balanced interaction with them doesn’t take you away from your centre anymore than interaction with humans takes you away from your centre. Imbalanced worship is another matter.
Deified humans,demigods or immortals are humans who have merged with their divine nature and have come to be associated with divine beings and aspects of nature.
Many writers have suggested that the gods were deified Atlanteans, I don’t agree with this for the reasons above but I do believe that historical figures took on the names of Deities and came to be associated with them as Avatars. We are all personifications of nature when it comes down to it.
The husband of Isis was Osiris, not Ra. Human Pharoahs and their consorts would have embodied their energies and thus become associated with them. This is similar to the Easter islander priests who embodied their creator-fertility god Maki-Maki or if you like the many white bearded grandads dressing up as Santa Claus.March 13, 2007 at 2:55 pm #21627
I spoke of the sun in this case because we where dealing with Egyptians and Atlanteans. You will find the rays of the sun an important part of the story. In the case of Ra I was speaking of the man which is divine but pre dated the mythology. You are right Ra was not married to Isis but they did have a child. I am not sure if she received her name from the wife of Raai or not, her name was changed. Isis was not Caucasians she was native. It has been a long time since I have done my detective work. A Atlantean name you might have seen before is Ajax. You can always look to the past to find a name for your Corporation or product. 🙂
“I do believe that historical figures took on the names of Deities and came to be associated with them as Avatars.”
If I understand you right I agree, though I am sure some where given the associations by the people.
I say dumbed down do to the fact that it has much less to do with Alchemy and a working fluid relationship with God, life Force, what ever and more to do with Suppression and God Kings in the later religions of Egypt an immature relationship that persists today. I speak generally as the Alchemy survived as there where later temples built and practitioners. I just saw a tendency to avoid responsibility mixed with greed. Both accepted by the life Force. I am not placing the sun above all others, as allot did in the past, because after all its all borrowed power from the life force.
I hope this clears things up.March 14, 2007 at 8:01 am #21629
I agree that somewhere along the line, the fluid process of Alchemy became imbalanced and this is how we ended up with Theocratic institutions which kept all the power(Mana) for themselves and this problem extends all the way to today where we have the Illuminati – the shadow side of alchemy.
I think its wrong however to regard people who interact with deities as necessarily being off center or part of the suppression.
Regarding Isis, do you really believe that she was a single historical woman who became deified or a goddess who had a number of women representing her?
The same question would apply to Hsi Wang Mu – Is she a human who became immortal, a Primordial goddess personified as a human or both?
I find these matters perplexing.March 14, 2007 at 9:59 am #21631
“I think its wrong however to regard people who interact with deities as necessarily being off center or part of the suppression.”
I agree. This is from my first post.
“I will say this that I do notice some emotional bodies are suited for worship, especially Indians (life is vast and different).”
I am not sure how you are using the term goddess as all humans are divine. Most do not know nor do they choose to explore this potential.
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