October 4, 2005 at 9:36 am #7961
To be tolerant of something, is it necessary to indulge in it?
By being racist, violent, pornographic and hateful, are we being tolerant of it?
Indulgence in these “negative” thought forms is sometimes a form of addiction, and it can be useful to exhaust the addiction by reaching the ultimate point of contraction before being released from them: false yin cannot contract infinitely but always reaches a point of exhaustion, and expands back out. But by doing this are we not also reinforcing that pattern?
If our intention is to attain so-called mastery over parasitic thought forms by maintaining and perpetuating them, are we not feeding them through our indulgence?
What if we feed them neutrality, non-doing, yuan qi or effortlessness?
Is that a way to release their hold on us?October 5, 2005 at 5:15 am #7962
Yesterday I read a post from Somlor and I can’t find it here anymore. Could you please tell me (us) what has hapened and why did that post got deleted?
PietroOctober 5, 2005 at 9:14 am #7964
the axe of deletion is not always accurate, this one is also a re-post.October 5, 2005 at 11:21 am #7966
I actually ended up finding the info by myself in a screen image copied at taobum. The risk is that in this way you end up estrangering users. I stopped posting for 6 months when the axe hit inaccurately the first time. Also some time people take quite some time in writing the post, surely more time that it takes you to delete. In any case the DB is yours, you do what you want.October 5, 2005 at 3:54 pm #7968
What I mean is that I might selectively pick some posts to delete, and then the machine itself will delete everything in that thread without my instructing it to, or take everything posted at the same time, or take other things with it that were unintentional. The deletion tool in this case is more like an axe than a straight sword regarding its accuracy or sophistication.October 6, 2005 at 5:28 am #7970
Putting all your time and energy into something that is destroyed the next day is both very educational and very painful. I suspect that that was the original idea behind Zen rock gardens. A more modern equivalent would be building beautiful sand castles below the tide mark. This is simply the internet equivalent. 🙂October 6, 2005 at 10:30 am #7972
Yes, I know. The machine does what it has been instructed to do. You haven’t programmed it, you are a mere executor.October 6, 2005 at 9:26 pm #7974
“What I mean is that I might selectively pick some posts to delete, and then the machine itself will delete everything in that thread without my instructing it to”
i.e. I mark certain posts for removal, but the computer removes the whole thread.
The aim is to set prescribed boundaries for posting. If someone replies to a post that shouldn’t be on here in the first place, then they should already have the understanding that it will be removed. If they want to reply to something that they think will be removed, they should post a new thread. If someone wants to post a thread that they know is not welcome here, they should post somewhere else.
In the case of posts that are not welcome here, I am the executioner, if you want to use that analogy. You could also say I am allowing people to have a discussion without harassment, or allowing people to have a discussion that does not fall into the abyss of reactionary emotional scarcity.
If we view the world as a place of abundance (i.e. “open architecture” -MW) where we can draw from the qi field what we need, there is enough room for everyone to express their ideas in an articulate way without being fed on by parasitic thought forms that give us a lot of energy in the beginning but drain us in the end.October 7, 2005 at 3:32 am #7976
Sean post was not answering any unwelcome message, nor can I find a reason for it to be deleted. It was not vulgar, dangerous, or anything. Yet it got deleted because someone else answered in a way that you deemed unacceptable. This is a totally different process from the one you described above:
If someone replies to a post that shouldn’t be on here in the first place, then they should already have the understanding that it will be removed. If they want to reply to something that they think will be removed, they should post a new thread. If someone wants to post a thread that they know is not welcome here, they should post somewhere else.
And if it is possible for anybody to delete a whole thread (including the parents!) because a message is not ok, the webmaster (and not you) is giving an amazing power to whoever feels like using it.October 7, 2005 at 11:19 am #7978
In the specific case you are referring to, I actually have no idea how my previous post “tolerance…etc.” with the answer by sean “Yuan Ch’i” and simon got deleted. why would i delete that? do you have any idea who deleted it?
I will try to give you an understanding of the mechanism of deletion here: when the original post is marked for deletion, the whole thread will disappear. In one case when I marked two replies for deletion, the whole thread was also deleted.
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