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August 27, 2011 at 4:04 pm #37722StevenModerator
If you think everything is a conspiracy,
everywhere you look, you will find one.If you think everything is yin-yang, you
will see such symbolism in everything.If you think Catholicism is right,
you will see Christ and the Virgin Mary in everything.If you think the world is evil,
you will see evil everywhere you go.Knowing this, one can opt to release judgments from the mind.
Yet, by free choice, I choose to view
the world through a filter of love and compassion.
Artificial as the rest, but in it, I take refuge.Steven
August 29, 2011 at 8:46 am #37723JimikirParticipantWhen i have question im trying to find answer:
i listen to my teacher, listen to Mantek Chia and Michael Winn words,
listen to different peoples, listen to reality wich can give me answer in different situations of life.
Interesting what is first belief or knowledge? this two things very close to each other.
You can belief in something but reality say to you: NO its wrong:)
And you receive from reality knowledge.
But also if you not belief in some knowledge this knowledge will not work for you.August 29, 2011 at 12:48 pm #37725baguaParticipantHello my Friend:
What if you don’t think? What do you see, feel, know?
bg
August 30, 2011 at 12:19 pm #37727StevenModeratorThere is an underlying reality in which we live.
Step in front of a moving car, and you get a result
independent of your beliefs in it.But we add on to that reality by forming judgments.
These create ideas that appear true to one person,
but are not shared by all.The car still exists, but some see it as green
because they are wearing green glasses; some
see it as red because they are wearing red glasses.In essence, my post was explaining what type of
glasses I’d like to wear. 😉S
August 30, 2011 at 12:37 pm #37729StevenModerator>>>What if you don’t think?
Interesting.
You ask a question that comes from the mind
about a state where the mind does not exist.The mind is natural, as are its subsequent judgments.
A better question is:
Which judgments are you forming,
and are you conscious of them?S
August 30, 2011 at 12:37 pm #37731DogParticipantCan we find our selves in union? That is what we are talking about here. The art of union. The body politic is suffering from parasites(industry) and a war between mommy and daddy our soul. I view a healthy society (game) like the formulas. A net that catches the fish and when the fish is caught you can forget the net but not till, or the people go starving.
These groups preach socialization of our banks (greater fusion = union) but why stop there? Why not make more things non-profit? The more of our selves we claim the less parasites we have. In this way both sides win, no regulation and no greed. 🙂 Angry white male with mommy issues much? 🙂 We can do better. This is not Texas karma is it? You are not a lonely white angry star.August 30, 2011 at 12:56 pm #37733DogParticipantI would say you are both that which is accepting that which is accepted. Freeing heaven and earth through the heart-mind of humanity the inner smile. Essence and sense in harmony. I love you sense, I love you essence. I wished to be ravished, I wish to ravish you. We dance infinity.
August 30, 2011 at 12:56 pm #37735DogParticipantI would say you are both that which is accepting that which is accepted. Freeing heaven and earth through the heart-mind of humanity the inner smile. Essence and sense in harmony. I love you sense, I love you essence. I wished to be ravished, I wish to ravish you. We dance infinity.
August 30, 2011 at 2:15 pm #37737baguaParticipantOur mind (depends how is is understood) is more that our thoughts and the intellect process. Tao and Chan is a lot about how we observe, smell, feel, hear. Can we shift our awareness to them without judgement, without the conscious forcing to create something? Lao Zi clearly presents: to create distinctions is the root of much of humanities problems (self-made suffering).
If one can ask the question, which judgements am I forming, allows one to see how their mind is working, the next step is focus on the terrain (awareness) which that process appears. Attuning to it frees one from the attachments to the judgment process. And a kind of freedom appears.
It seems to me this awareness is what enlightened people of many traditions agree on.
bg
>What if you don’t think?
Interesting.
You ask a question that comes from the mind
about a state where the mind does not exist.The mind is natural, as are its subsequent judgments.
A better question is:
Which judgments are you forming,
and are you conscious of them?S
August 30, 2011 at 2:15 pm #37739baguaParticipantOur mind (depends how is is understood) is more that our thoughts and the intellect process. Tao and Chan is a lot about how we observe, smell, feel, hear. Can we shift our awareness to them without judgement, without the conscious forcing to create something? Lao Zi clearly presents: to create distinctions is the root of much of humanities problems (self-made suffering).
If one can ask the question, which judgements am I forming, allows one to see how their mind is working, the next step is focus on the terrain (awareness) which that process appears. Attuning to it frees one from the attachments to the judgment process. And a kind of freedom appears.
It seems to me this awareness is what enlightened people of many traditions agree on.
bg
>What if you don’t think?
Interesting.
You ask a question that comes from the mind
about a state where the mind does not exist.The mind is natural, as are its subsequent judgments.
A better question is:
Which judgments are you forming,
and are you conscious of them?S
August 31, 2011 at 2:23 am #37741JimikirParticipantYou right. And also this glasses forming reality. Its double-sided exchange.
August 31, 2011 at 3:43 pm #37743Swedich DragonParticipantAs you know.
People see what happens after death wery differently.
To put it shortly:
Some think that after death ewerything is darkness, or more rightly the counsciousness has no information what so ewer.
Others think that we will be some kind of ghosts perhaps somethimes just for awhile to take contact with near friends before we goes to the other side
Some believes we go thrue a tunnel and are experimenting every important episode of our life, and perhaps also goes thrue some kind of moral judgement of what kind of live we have been living
Some belive that the personal atman will be part of the wourld soul Bhraman
Some belive that our soul will reincarnate into another being
Some believe in imortality for some
And also many other believes.
What do you think? Might it be so that our believe system as living will afect what will be the reality after death. Or might it be so that the time has no importance after death, beacase the time is a construction of the mind and the mind is no longer when you are death. and after has no meaning without time.
Or is it so that every other explanation of what happens after death might be right. Perhaps after death has no simple explanation. Perhaps that reality is as complex as the living would, and all the explanation mentioned and many more are true in some part of the existence or non existence after death.
Well your post did just waken alive those thoughts in my mind. Thougths I thougth on my holliday, whitout actually any imput from reading, just some discussions with some friends.
SD Hi Steven
September 1, 2011 at 9:25 am #37745StevenModeratorThe sun is smiling down to you today,
and you are the sun that is smiling down.September 1, 2011 at 9:25 am #37747StevenModeratorThe sun is smiling down to you today,
and you are the sun that is smiling down.September 1, 2011 at 9:32 am #37749StevenModerator>>>Our mind (depends how is is understood) is more that our
>>>thoughts and the intellect process. Tao and Chan is a lot
>>>about how we observe, smell, feel, hear. Can we shift our
>>>awareness to them without judgement, without the conscious
>>>forcing to create something? Lao Zi clearly presents: to create
>>>distinctions is the root of much of humanities problems (self-made suffering).Not unlike the distinction you are making
between my use and your use of the word “mind”. 😉>>>If one can ask the question, which judgements am I forming,
>>>allows one to see how their mind is working, the next step
>>>is focus on the terrain (awareness) which that process appears.
>>>Attuning to it frees one from the attachments to the judgment
>>>process. And a kind of freedom appears.One can be non-attached, but still choose by free choice.
This *is* the definition of freedom: choice.S
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