September 15, 2005 at 12:42 am #7699
can anybody recommend highly regarded Qi Gong form(s)for treating cancer, a form or style a person can practice themselves.
davidSeptember 15, 2005 at 5:29 am #7700
In dealing with a serious illness like cancer, the system has to jettison a vast amount of unecessary information. THis takes tremendous effort in the beginning.
The best way to start treating any cancer is getting a treatment from a qigong healer/master. In my experience, just relying on your own effort and gong is not enough to really break the energetic patterns that created the problem. You need a flying start, and a treatment can do that.
After the treatment there is a vast number of qigong forms suitable depending on what type of cancer we are talking about. One way of “treating” yourself is just to take your mind off the illness, and try to meditate once or twice a day in stillness meditation, not focusing on anything particular. If you start to train the unconsious mind to become conscious of it’s underlying attatchemnt or identification with the problem, you can start to forget about it, and let it go. Meditation really teaches you to detatch from the identification, creating vast space for the healing energy to do it’s work.
But remeber that alot of problems like cancer cannot solely be treated on an energetic level. Sometimes a teacher is the only one who can see the information that creates the problem on a light or shen level, and then can start to untangle the energetic knots in and around your body.
I know a lady who healed herself from breast cancer when she was told she had only 3 months left by the doctors. She got a series if treatments, and did qigong 5 hours every day. She is now 68, living as a qigong teacher and is in the shape of her life.
Hope this is of some help
hSeptember 15, 2005 at 9:09 pm #7702
Aside from M. Winn’s deep healing video,
I would not overlook doing a deep colon, liver and gall bladder cleanse.
I personally concur with RJ that Dr. Schulze (www.herbdoc.com) has the best products to facilitate the above cleansing.
peace and smilesSeptember 15, 2005 at 9:16 pm #7704
Thanks for your feedback.
I just want to be sure I understand what you are saying. As far as a form of Qi Gong goes, you think M. Winn’s Deep Healing Qi Gong (Medical Qi Gong) is a great form for a person with cancer to practice. That Deep Healing Qi Gong has the potential to cure cancer?
davidSeptember 16, 2005 at 12:00 pm #7706
I don’t think Michael Winn would EVER make a medical claim in writing.
If you know anything about the AMA and the FDA you would know that to make such a statement would be actionable. In other words it could be construed as practicing medicine without a license.
In non legalistic terms it should be stated that Medical Qi Gong and M. Winn’s Deep Healing Qi Gong (which is an adaptation/expansion of what he learned as being taught in QiGong hospitals)has been used effectively by many to enable peoples mind/body/spirit to heal serious disease.
Hagar said something about changing your energy field being a difficult process and necessary to address something as serious as cancer.
Deep healing Qigong’s most vital aspect is the process of gathering up all of your energy and projecting it out, then summoning it back in from the sun. Kind of a reset of the whole energy field. I am vastly oversimplifying this process, but that is the most important aspect of this practice.
I believe it has the potential to heal anything. But I can only speak from my experience which does not include healing myself from cancer.
Approach to healing should not be limited to one modality, though many here may look to Qigong as the first approach. There are many complementary/alternative approaches to healing cancer.
I would explore all of them, including nutritional therapy, electro therapy, cleansing therapy and others.
avoid pharma drugs, unnattural substances of any kind and especially chemo and radiation. Exhaust all other approaches before going there. And even if chemo and or radiation are employed, all the more reason to engage with passion for saving your life any and all alternative therapies to make you stronger and access greater quantities of LIFEFORCE.
On one final note it is important that the patient be Clear with Himself that he wants to live and that he Can achieve health. If so one will not rest until all possible means have been tried.
CraigSeptember 16, 2005 at 12:11 pm #7708
Good advice through out.
I like your balanced approach, even though you start out suggesting a jump start from accomplished chi healer, you also mention a woman who healed herself.
It’s all possible.
If I had such a malady I would certainly seek out a good chi kung therapist.
(who am I kidding, I would look for the best one available, not just good 🙂
Again, as mentioned in another reply by me if you are familiar with the energy dynamics of deep healing chi kung you will see that what it is doing is setting up a method for “the system ….to jettison a vast amount of unecessary information”.
While it is your stated experience that “your own effort and gong is not enough to really break the energetic patterns that created the problem.”
This may be your own self imposed limitation. Definitely not the thought pattern I would endorse to put into the field of a person engaging in the healing process. Nothing is that certain, and as you stated yourself, some people have healed themselves solely through their own efforts.
Great contribution though Hagar, kudos for being the first to step up to this SERIOUS question.
Maybe we should also prescribe long walks in the mountains at the top of the world 🙂
CraigSeptember 16, 2005 at 10:22 pm #7710
Thanks for clarifying what i meant, in a way more clearer than i could have done.
Personally, (and i mean this sincerely) when i watched Winn’s videos i would fall into the most restful sleeps.
Sweet sleep for me is one of the most potent medicines i have found.
Thanks again Craig:0)
peace and smilesSeptember 17, 2005 at 5:09 am #7712
“While it is your stated experience that “your own effort and gong is not enough to really break the energetic patterns that created the problem.”
This may be your own self imposed limitation. Definitely not the thought pattern I would endorse to put into the field of a person engaging in the healing process.”
I see your point, though I will not moderate that statement. Regarding healing of serious illness, alot of individual variables should be taken into consideration, and everyone is unique, so no general statements about healing is really precise.
I have close family memebers and friends who got cancer, and I’ve seen both sides of this problem. One danger is putting yourself totally in the hands of the doctor and the conventional treatment, trusting it to be the only road to healing. Although many have been helped by conventional methods, the patient will feel alientated, often resulting in the experience of not being responsible for your own fate. At the other end of the spectrum, there is people who have a naive trust in their own efforts, trying everything they can, but fundamentally are ending up trying things that are really not solving the underlying energetic patterns that is creating the problem.
I only speak of my own experience; often we need help. That doesn’t mean that the fundamental effort is your own, and this realization is what will make you heal. By taking responsibility for your own healing, you will naturally see what needs to be done. A treatment from a healer or qigong therapist is one of these things that, if you are open to them, is a sensible thing to do.
I have seen people who have had their tumors shrink within hours by getting a treatment, and would by no means have been able to do that kind of deep healing themselves. But the most important work, which includes finding out what caused the problem is your own work.
Usually, a serious illness is a message, and one to truly listen to.
hSeptember 17, 2005 at 5:50 am #7714
I apologize for bad grammar and spelling. Good thing english is not my native tounge. One thing I want to correct:”That doesn’t mean that the fundamental effort is NOT your own”. …more like what I wanted to say.
And ehem…there seem to be some mixup of “is” and “are”. Sorry…I blush.
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