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Good luck in your taking advantge of ego, we can pick up this conversation in a few years, see how its going.
bagua
You are smarter than your question, so we go round and round again.
Greed, extreme desires, society conditioning are why we cultivate, to experience life without being controlled by them. Perfect is a judgement you make. I said we are complete, meaning all we need is here and now; you have a different view.
bagua
On page 162 of “Fingerprints of the Gods” by Graham Hancock, he quotes J. Eric Thompson’s book “The Rise and Fall of the Maya Civilization” discussing the Mayan Long Count Calendar, which says:
“On a Stela at Quiriga in Guatemala a date of over 90 million years ago is computed; on another a date over 300 million years before that is given. These are actual computations, stating correctly day and month positions, and are comparable to calculations in our calendar giving the month positions on which Easter would have fallen at equivalent distances in the past. The brain reels at such astronomical figures…”
Ah, Pietro–you get both the carrot and the stick for this post. I am sure Max has already gone to fetch the stick, so…
I totally agree with the last paragraph you wrote. A human who is tormented long enough eventually loses interest in that which he once wanted. The desire is still there in a different form, but the transmission no longer sends the engine output to the drivetrain.
Or we may not. I am starting to think that Alexander is right, it is like fighting with you.
Smiles,
FajinIm not trying to win, just converse, are you? At some point its time to move on, so on many topics we have reached that point, so lets flow in the tao and move on.
gua
Specifically on the mayan calendar, I think it was inherited from a previous civilization; the Mayans were founded by a tribe of Atlanteans, as were the builders of the architectural wonders in Peru.
I think the earth has gone through many cycles of intelligent life, some human and some not, some indigenous, and some visiting travellers. Most of it is a mystery to me, but there is enough evidence (both physical and channeled on a large scale) to show many examples of highly intelligent beings that have lived on earth from very ancient times.
Is it a judgement or an observation?
I agree that we have all we need to be complete, the question is whether or not we choose completion, balance and harmony, or are able to achieve a high level of that in our lifetimes. If we accept that people are born with an imbalance of energetic forces through ancestral inheritance, geomantic and astrological forces, and conditioning in the physical plane, then the question is how do we harmonize with the flow of the dao inside and outside to remain in balance with that? It seems that we are constantly faced with recurring situations that happen in different ways until we are able to complete them, harmonizing the inner and outer forces.
Through the intention of observing oneness, we are able to clearly see what happens in the shifting patterns of yin and yang with awareness, maybe seeing the underlying energetic sources of the physical ebb and flow. Does observation of oneness become active harmonization from a chan perspective, or remain only observation?
Through the intention of active harmonization and balance, we are able to complete the underlying energetic sources of patterns of yin and yang, maybe even dissolving the need for those patterns to physically arise because of their energetic completion.
Through the intention of letting go of attachments, are those constantly recurring patterns being completed or discarded only to return at a later time?
Through the intention of harmonizing and balancing, recurring situations are completed, and new ones arise to await completion.
If you say I am being too intellectual, did you know that Tibetan buddhists are trained to discuss a point from at least twenty different angles?
Yes, they are all serious about what they are saying, E.
They are seeking answers and understandings that will help them come to compassion and clarity (release) about things that are bothering them.
It is more common for a man to “discuss” (a left brain activity which brings things to consciousness by discernment and specification) than for a woman because a man feels/is more projected out into the world and therefore more likely to not easily know the answers to things. A woman is more “in the center” where the answers are, in feeling. It often makes no sense to the feminine to search for these answers because to Her, the Intuition/Feeling presence, they are at no distance from them. To the masculine, there is often nothing BUT distance.
They say: “No man is an island,” not “No woman is an island,” because a man tends to isolate himself because he experiences being in isolation, apart from, projected out of by his nature which is more spirit and thought, where a woman is by her nature more within the inherent oneness of things through feeling.
“Does enlightenment equate to a loss of the sense of humour?” No. They are within each other- ultimately. You have to understand the pain of this sense of isolation to know why humor can be lacking.
You can even use my well-thought out, serious, pretty humorless answer to your *joking* question as an example of what I just said.Blessings, Alexander
Nice reply Alexander
I don’t think that the left/right brain male/female tendancies are entirelly fixed. (though you probablly weren’t saying that anyway)
Osho would always say that seriousness is a disease.
We do have a 6th sense, the sense of humour……..at least everyone has the potential for this 6th sense.
Has anyone ever seen a picture of Lao Zi frowning? what about Buddah? No way.Osho would end his discourses with jokes ’cause he knew that laughter would dissolve tension and open the dantien (belly laughter)
I feel that lack of sense of humour can be alleviated by laughing, even if you’re faking it, it creates a momentum which generates more laughter.
Or, RELAXED (non serious)meditation and/or qigong can dissolve serious layyers within the body/mind, opening the space for humour to exist.To me, seriousness is one of the greatest barriers to enligtenment/cultivation……..life itself
My nephew has the most pure laughter I have ever heard, and when he finishes, his body is always so warm and alive.Of course, I’m not saying to over do it, ’cause that just harms the heart, but I sense a real seriouness on this board, which to me is kind of uncomfortable. Or maybe it’s just the way I read things.
A>>You have to understand the pain of this sense of isolation to know why humor can be lacking.<<
Yep, the seperation is the cause of not only lack of humour, but ALL serious/tense/"old"/rigid states.
I saw John De ruiter a few years ago, someone asked him, what's it like being you?
He said "Imense joy from the oneness, and imense pain from the seperation(of others not knowing the oneness)"—— rant over. (slapping myself in the face)
mat“Nice reply Alexander”
Thanks! Glad to be received.
“I don’t think that the left/right brain male/female tendancies are entirelly fixed. (though you probablly weren’t saying that anyway)”
That’s right. We all blend. In fact, we are actually very mixed up. Get it?
“Osho would always say that seriousness is a disease.”
It is a symptom of the disease of forgetting who/what we are.
“Has anyone ever seen a picture of Lao Zi frowning? what about Buddah? No way.”
That’s because no one would buy a picture like that. Ha! Sense of humor, right?
“I feel that lack of sense of humour can be alleviated by laughing, even if you’re faking it, it creates a momentum which generates more laughter.
Or, RELAXED (non serious)meditation and/or qigong can dissolve serious layyers within the body/mind, opening the space for humour to exist.”That’s it exactly. It is a balance. Know when to focus tighter, know when to loosen up.
Do you know the writing of Swami Beyondananda?“To me, seriousness is one of the greatest barriers to enligtenment/cultivation……..life itself”
Yes. It is the non-presence of that freedom, that self-knowledge. This is why I have put forth on this board the idea, so heavily opposed or ignored at times, that too much talking about things is imbalanced and overindulgent, unnecessary and actually counterproductive to the goal of “knowing” which is just a step away from Being. But it’s all a learning process. We are working out “trying to get there” from our systems.
Seriousness is part of a negative momentum which is now being consumed by our alchemical efforts and the earth’s/solar system’s/galaxy’s accelerated field. That’s why things have become denser in the last twenty years instead of lighter. The compression increases so that lift-off can happen.“I sense a real seriouness on this board, which to me is kind of uncomfortable. Or maybe it’s just the way I read things.”
No, it’s not. You got it right. But it’s happening for a reason – the one I said…
“You have to understand the pain of this sense of isolation to know why humor can be lacking.”
“—— rant over. (slapping myself in the face)”
Ha! Why bother to slap yourself in the face when there are people here who will gladly do it for you if you say the right (or the wrong) thing!
Humorfully,
Alexander
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