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April 25, 2006 at 3:17 pm #13113FajinParticipant
Michael,
Nice peice. My version differs from yours a little, maybe we can agree?
Hun and Po souls need personal heart shen to command them to re-unite with Original Spirit. The same goes for Heaven and Earth needing Man to all combine with Dao. So, we can relate them this way:
Hun = Heaven
Po = Earth
Personal Heart Shen = Man
Original Spirit = DaoOriginal Spirit, as immortal, eternal conciousness started Earth and Heaven which then started Man and up to Man to re-combine all (like jing, qi, and shen) back to Dao, our original nature. So, the root cause is Original Spirit – concsiousness! That’s my view.
Smiling from the Heart,
FajinApril 26, 2006 at 3:04 am #13115singing oceanParticipantPeople are given the freedom to choose their actions, and have to navigate their path of completion. Some can handle it, and others have a very difficult time. Some people are given an easy life and others are heaped with suffering. This is the natural dynamic of yin yang polarity that has become aggravated due to mass murder etc. and left all this astral pollution to deal with.
Yes, there is a natural polarity, but it is more aggravated at the moment due to unresolved conflicts.
April 26, 2006 at 3:50 am #13117FajinParticipant>>5% alien/reptilian souls (those in power- thay can’t relate to any human feelings because they are incapable of any).<<
*The Reptilians on Earth here are manipulating humans because they believe that this universe was meant for them and not for humans. Ie. they believe that humans are inferior to them like an animal and use control. They are good and have feelings to their own people, however. The war in heaven is between humans (not Earthlings) and predominantly Reptilians.
The Draconians/Reptilians are gentiscists and believe evolution to be done on the jing frequency while humans have a different philosophy of evolution through spirit. They each believe there's is the highest free will.
I was one in a past life and spoke to one in this life. The Draconians have been in the universe longer than humans have.
Hope that clears any misconceptions!
FajinApril 26, 2006 at 1:46 pm #13119asclepiusParticipantThank you for posting this. It was interesting to read through your post, then Novak’s site, then go back and review the materials for Lesser Kan and Li.
Suddenly things made a lot more sense. A simpler picture of the practices formed in my head, that ultimately, the bulk of what we’re doing is a repeating pattern
1) Increase the energy of the system a little bit
2) Call back in the split-off fragments of our ‘selves’, a piece at a time.
3) Now with the slightly more stable and stronger structure… Rinse and repeatThe only thing that seems to change is the level of the self you’re reintegrating. Fusion I works on fragments of the ego, where the kan and li practices work on reintegrating fragments that occurred increasingly ‘further’ out from this lifetime.
But it doesn’t seem like it would necessarily have to be a linear path though. You might not be able to integrate some intense fracture (like trauma) that happened in this lifetime until you developed some strength/skill at a ‘higher’ level.I’ve been hearing “shaman” types talk about soul loss and soul retrieval lately. I haven’t experienced it, but it sounds to me like this practice is very similar to inner alchemy. Except that they don’t seem to be distinguishing what level the split happened at. They only seem to be reporting tracking down a fragment and helping reintegrate it. It may not really matter where the split happened, if the shaman is coming from the perspective that the person has a fragment that, by being missing, is affecting their life right now, and its time to do something about it. (maybe we really do only need to be concerned about healing the suffering that’s right in front of us?)
Brian
April 26, 2006 at 3:05 pm #13121FajinParticipant>>Human and reptilian soul structures are totally different and the reincarnation process is different as well. So, how is it possible?<<
*Good question. My soul structure evolved because I chose the human philosophy and I believe that Michael resembles this human philosophy as well. That's why I came to the HealingDao.
Smiles from the Heart,
FajinApril 26, 2006 at 10:53 pm #13123FajinParticipantMax,
I did see that I had a Reptilian body and know for a fact that I was a Reptilian. I don’t know how it all happened, wether there was technology or alchemy involved, but I do know that I wanted to become human. What you do in this life will effect the next life. There is a choice prior to incarnation, Michael is correct.
Fajin
April 27, 2006 at 2:50 am #13125FajinParticipantHi Max,
Nice distinction between over-souls. It is difficult to know what really happened as we do not understand the Reptilian soul structure that well. From your distinctions, I would suggest there is an error.
The big mix up is between Reptilians and Draconians. Draconians have many different shapes and sizes and the Reptilians have two arms and two legs. I was a Reptilian. From what I understand of the Draconians, they believe that life is all about mastering DNA. They do live in the linear time frame and therefore they do not remember their past lives. Their emphasis is on stopping the aging process via DNA. They live very long. Linear refers to a beginning and an end, and so once they die, they die.
I would say that humans are able to remember past lives if multiple shen are all re-united with yuan shen. This is the immortality that Michael refers to. Carrying our knowledge and wisdom into our next life following consistency in a constant process of evolution.
The Reptilian that contacted me did this because I asked the being to do so while we were both on Earth. The being claims that I have helped him with something and in return he told me about my decision to choose the Human philosophy. Again, we don’t know much about the Reptilian soul structure and can’t really judge what’s what. The Reptilians and Draconians keep to themselves very much.
P.S. I might have been a hybrid!
FajinApril 27, 2006 at 2:57 pm #13127JernejParticipantin linear time it might be past reincarnation
but from the power of now
any contact of substance
means you are both
and nowregardless of linear time distance
April 27, 2006 at 4:08 pm #13129FajinParticipantHi Max,
Can you please give me a brief desrciption of an Asura?
I had a series of dreams prior to my encounter with the Reptilian who told me about this. In these dreams I saw myself and I would say I had the yellow-green skin, some kind of armour, and was standing about 10 feet tall. I know I was some kind of warrior, but that’s about it. There isn’t much I know, maybe through cultivation I’ll find out more. Interested in this asura thing. Thanks.
Smiles away,
FajinApril 28, 2006 at 6:39 am #13131DylanParticipantHello everyone
I’ve been following these discussions with fascination and would like to contribute something.
Shamans have been tracking, retrieving and reintegrating soul fragments since the dawn of humanity. I am convinced Taoist alchemy has its roots in this.
Shamans are also involved in identifying, removing, and psychopomping parisitic entities with different approaches from wrestling with them to persuading them to move on. This by its nature must involve a high degree of spiritual discrimination (in the true sense of the word).
How do we draw the line? There are boundaries of identity, however fluid, all the way to universal oneness. How do we know the difference between a fragmented soul part (it doesn’t have to be lost somewhere, it can be right before us but just estranged) and a parasitic entity trying to get in on the action, even to the extent of imprinting false memories? Perhaps we have to get in touch with our core, original spirit/self before we can truly discriminate.
This is not to say that separate entities are always parasitic or predatory. In fact I think the majority are symbiotic, ie necessary for our existence. This is why Shamans also sought out, for themselves and others, power animals and spirit guides. These beings resonate in some way to their chosen humans and the boundary is very fluid. This also applies to physical organisms such as plants, bacteria an viruses. Bacteria and viruses get negative press but the truth is the vast majority of them are VITAL (the roots of the word are connected) to life on Earth. No bacteria and viruses, no life. A virus is even necessary to RNA translation. A minority actually harm humans and so we condemn the whole lot in the same way Islamic extremists are wilfully used to condemn Muslims in general.
Even our cellular mitochondria with its separate DNA can and has been seen in this light. Again where do we draw the line?However, willing co-peration, love and harmony is not the same as identity. Or is it? Which identity are we talking about? I don’t have the answers to this one and freely admit it.
I do think there is a difference though between seeing myself as an (aspect of ) original spirit with soul parts that have been thrown together willy nilly by the cosmos and that we have to somehow graft together and between seeing myself as an aspect of original spirit that has somehow become estranged from parts of itself in this lifetime or previous lifetimes and needs to reintegrate those parts with or without the help/hindrance of other spirits. The latter, in my view is more subtle than the former which seems to impy a kind of spiritual welding of entities together not much different to these demons which seem to be formed of collective entities. Collectivity and integration are NOT the same thing. Water is not a collection of Hydrogen and Oxygen atoms just as humans are not a collection of cells. Individuality is not the same as fragmented separation as Marxist ideology would have us believe.
So to end I would say that indivuality is a necessary (wholistic) component of harmony, spiritual evolution and soul completion. Only then can we truly fulfil our responsibilities to other lost souls.
April 28, 2006 at 8:36 am #13133wendyParticipantReally Dylan, your questions are right on. I struggled with it myself for a couple of years to find out if my experiences where of the parasitic type or the complementing type fulfilling once destiny on this planet.
April 28, 2006 at 12:56 pm #13135FajinParticipantHi Max,
I had the dreams while I was here in Canada. I know alot about Reptilians and what they do, the time is coming when aliens begin to appear. I agree that through cultivation all will become clear. I appreciate your help, thanks Max.
Smiles,
FajinApril 30, 2006 at 7:58 pm #13137Michael WinnKeymasterDylan,
I think you’ve drawn an important distinction – and one I make in my higher kan & li courses. The difference between the adept who is cultivating himself/individuating to immortality and the parasitical negative thought forms that keep gathering soul fragments together is this: the parasite has no yuan chi. It depends for its life on leftover yin-yang energies, which is why they foment “evil” and “suffering” to increase the available fragments for their food.Humans have connection to infinite yuan chi, and thus infinite levels of transformation. We can move on. The parasites/demon immortals wait here for the next confused human meal.
michael
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