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serious question for TAO gurus: on the road? inner smile?

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  • January 4, 2014 at 8:39 pm #41756
    ribosome777
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    going to cut the junk

    if you are on the road
    and someone either tailgates, endangers your life, or cuts you off at high speed

    and in that moment of anger,

    you

    1) “smile” to it

    or

    2) blow your horn like you are going to whip their beep’n a**

    which one is the “correct” response?

    HOW, IF YOU GENUINELY SWITCH AT THAT MOMENT TO HARMONIOUS ‘GOLDEN LIGHT’
    are you not artificially tampering?

    so, gurus as they are, you may say, “oh , this is TEMPERING”

    but at that moment, faced w/forces of destructive fury
    is it not an ARTIFICIAL manifestation of >— draining <--- will to generate "HARMONY" force in response?

    January 4, 2014 at 8:44 pm #41757
    ribosome777
    Participant
    January 4, 2014 at 9:15 pm #41759
    Steven
    Moderator

    The correct answer is 2) blow your horn like you are going to whip their beep’n a**

    REASON: It’s your duty to let idiots know that they have done something idiotic. Otherwise, they will be lead to believe that such a thing is OK to do, and then they will likely do it again later on . . . to someone else . . . possibly leading to the injury or death of someone else and/or themselves. Thus by being angry at them, and making them feel 10 inches tall, you force them to examine their own actions and evaluate if they need to be corrected. Consequently, you are doing both them and other innocent drivers a service. Whether they realize it or not, it is actually an act of compassion to themselves and others when you express your feeling authentically.

    The only REAL QUESTION that remains, is whether or not you can then let the negative emotion go after the episode is over. If you can let it go, and go back to neutrality and peace, then this is good. If you, on the other hand, dwell in your own negative emotions about it for hours (or days, whatever), this is bad.

    IN SHORT: Feel the feeling, be honest, and then let it go.

    If you can’t let it go, do Six Healing Sounds and/or Fusion to release the emotion.
    Then, add on more grounding practice to your daily life, so that you can more effectively remain detached in future scenarios.

    S

    January 5, 2014 at 5:06 pm #41761
    c_howdy
    Participant

    In various East Asian languages, the phrase “ten thousand years” is used to wish long life, and is typically translated as “long live” in English. The phrase originated in ancient China as an expression used to wish long life to the emperor of China. Due to the political and cultural influence of China in the area, and in particular of the Chinese language, cognates with similar meanings and usage patterns have appeared in many East Asian languages.
    -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_thousand_years

    On a rainy night, if a watch fire is dead, you may be able to sneak up to the watch-fire guard and kill him, or if you come across the enemy togiki listening scout, you may kill or capture him also. There have been many instances of such cases since ancient times. Although you should do this in some situations, it should most definitely be avoided if it is done when hot-blooded. Only do this if you need to, and if needed to succeed in infiltrating, or if you think you cannot get in there without disposing of them, in such a case you may kill that person. These two points hold true for the case where the enemy is not leaving its castle.
    -The Book of Ninja: The First Complete Translation of the Bansenshukai, Japan’s Premier Ninja Manual by ANTONY CUMMINS & YOSHIE MINAMI

    Sorry here again RECAPITULATION would be central practice because both rational and emotional aspects are worked out. This goes like that before, after and also between.

    More generally one could think that individual karmas are so different that it’s not possible to find one singular right solution.

    Individually one should look answer for this within one’s recapitulationary sessions.

    Recapitulation is immediately the most important interface between inner and outer and the neidan practices are something much more private and advanced.

    BANZAI

    Ps. Sorry for my broken English.

    January 13, 2014 at 8:45 pm #41763
    c_howdy
    Participant

    “The Very Saintly Ashiata Shiemash was the only Messenger sent from
    Above to your planet who by his holy labors succeeded in creating conditions
    in which for a certain time the existence of its unfortunate beings somewhat
    resembled the existence of three-brained beings with the same possibilities
    that inhabit other planets of our Great Universe. And this saint was also the
    first who, for the accomplishment of the mission assigned to him, refused to
    employ the customary methods established during centuries by all the other
    Messengers from Above for the three-brained beings of that planet.
    “The Very Saintly Ashiata Shiemash taught nothing whatever to the
    ordinary three-brained beings of the Earth, nor did he preach anything to
    them, as was done before and after him by all the other Messengers sent from
    Above with the same aim.
    “And in consequence of this, none of his teachings in any form passed
    from his contemporaries even to the third generation there, let alone to
    contemporary beings.
    “Definite information relating to his very saintly activities did, however,
    pass from the contemporaries of the Very Saintly Ashiata Shiemash to the
    beings of following generations through those known as ‘initiates,’ by means
    of a certain ‘legomonism’ of his deliberations under the title of ‘The Terror of
    the Situation.’
    -G.I.GURDJIEFF, Beelzebub’s Tales to His Grandson

    I had hired him as a humble trace-cutter for my survey gang and the thing most immediately noticeably about him was his heavily cicatriced face, which gave him the appearance of an ornately decorated black pot. Apart from his quite startling facial markings, though, he was just about most nondescript human being I had ever seen in my life. He was little more than pygmy-sized, as thin as a stick-insect, and he had the furtive, brow-beaten air of the archetypal henpecked husband. But he had no wives that I ever heard of, nor-unusually for African-did he show the slightest desire for the company of either women or men. He was the complete loner, to the extent that even his fellow workers shunned him. But he was a reliable worker, going about his his allotted tasks quietly and efficiently enough, albeit with a sort of obsequious resignation. When, towards the end of the year, he asked for a couple of weeks off work to return to his homeland far to the east as his father was dying, I readily acquiesced. I never saw him again.
    -DAVID MacINTOSH, Travels in the White Man’s Grave: Memoirs from West and Central Africa

    As the name implies, the Special Forces is a refuge for those who are special-as in a bit different from everyone else. The Special Forces soldier is a unique breed of cat, a breed that doesn’t lend itself to any specific psychological profile. But there is a pattern of common individual traits such as mavericks, adventurers, and patriots; one or more of which are almost always present in pedigree.
    -PETE BLABER, The Mission, the Men, and Me-Lessons from a Former Delta Force Commander

    …the only REAL QUESTION that remains, is whether or not you can then let the negative emotion go after the episode is over. If you can let it go, and go back to neutrality and peace, then this is good. If you, on the other hand, dwell in your own negative emotions about it for hours (or days, whatever), this is bad…

    Here I simply would, when one becomes aware of the real nature of the situation, try to remain externally always and everywhere as neutral as possible whatever happens as long as ANTAR MAUNA (special kind of inner silence) is not achieved. For it, beside many other things, RECAPITULATION, in both VIPASSANA (special insight) and SAMATHA (tranquil abiding) modes, is critically important for further success in my opinion.

    So to become very neutral, and then of course very boring, always and everywhere as long power of silence is not realized.

    This is simply to learn to relate flow of time with totally different kind of attitude.

    HOWDY

    Ps. Sorry for my broken English.

    January 15, 2014 at 7:33 pm #41765
    ribosome777
    Participant

    this is still to the point…

    at that moment of option, here A or B,

    does the artificial “emote” not clearly undermine and invalidate the organic emotion,
    seeing as the two are here truly opposite in display of core will?

    furthermore, is neutral to be yin?

    in one instance you would say yin has clockwise, or cool motion,
    yang counter “hot” motion or vice versa, but here both are equally potent in extremity

    in another instance you would say yin as stasis, yang as dynamic action

    but here, “neutral” is, essentially, appearing as a placid harmony

    rather than a *dynamic* harmony between punctuated chaos and randomized “terror peace”

    this is as much by correlation to the “yi” spirit as “mellow yellow”
    so that this neutral has been given a “harmony” peace tone closer to the second yin, even when between two yang/yin modes such as extreme cool or warmth

    so this neutral is not truly a dynamic neutral of invisible balance between chaos and order,

    it is harmony neutral, golden emitting, really going yin

    so this leads back to this boring-ness-ness

    this could hardly be called a true self, as one tepid being-ness
    when the self is so multifaceted

    so back to the question:

    at that moment of rage, it is not artificial, defusing, and potentially draining to rewire the current into “golden harmony”, when the core impulse was furor

    and why would one do this anyway?

    January 23, 2014 at 4:30 am #41767
    c_howdy
    Participant

    The fed responded with draconian counterproposal that would have made it a five-year felony to sell any encryption software in America that lacked a back door for law enforcement and government spies.
    -KEVIN POULSEN, Kingpin-How One Hacker Took Over the Billion Dollar Cybercrime Underground

    The first of the notable mathematicians to pursue the mathematics of equations of higher degree and certainly the greatest combination of mathematician and rascal is Jerome Cardan. He was born in Pavia, Italy, in 1501 to somewhat disreputable parents, although his father was a lawyer, doctor, and minor mathematician. Cardan had no upbringing worth speaking about and was sickly during the first half of his life. despite these handicaps, he studied medicine and became so celebrated a physician that he was invited to treat prominent in many countries of Europe. At various times he was professor of medic9ine, and he also lectured on mathematics at several Italian universities. He was aggressive, high-tempered, disagreeable, and even vindictive…
    -MORRIS KLINE, Mathematics for the Nonmathematician

    One shouldn’t take too seriously these yin-yang speculations or one should take for example the Book of Changes and look situation in more complicated way in the light of that scripture.

    HOWDY

    January 23, 2014 at 7:11 pm #41769
    ribosome777
    Participant

    “Fibonacci is best known to the modern world for[3] the spreading of the Hindu–Arabic numeral system in Europe, primarily through his composition in 1202 of Liber Abaci (Book of Calculation), and for a number sequence named the Fibonacci numbers after him, which he did not discover but used as an example in the Liber Abaci.”

    …as surrealist, musician and driving force behind several Blue Ridge arts festivals..

    “Andor Logos”, still part of the same underground stream IMHO

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liber_Abaci

    Jim’s profile is currently listed on Facebook and G+ for anyone interested in the genius of the Golden Mean, Arabian, and Hindu mathematics:

    “The solution, generation by generation, was a sequence of numbers later known as Fibonacci numbers. The number sequence was known to Indian mathematicians as early as the 6th century,but it was Fibonacci’s Liber Abaci that introduced it to the West…

    https://www.facebook.com/pandoor?fref=ts

    again, IMHO…

    January 23, 2014 at 7:12 pm #41771
    ribosome777
    Participant
    January 27, 2014 at 3:15 pm #41773
    c_howdy
    Participant

    Haaretz (Hebrew: הארץ‎) (lit. “The Land [of Israel]”, originally Ḥadashot Ha’aretz – Hebrew: חדשות הארץ‎, IPA: [χadaˈʃot haˈʔaʁets] – “News of the Land”) is Israel’s oldest daily newspaper. It was founded in 1918 and is now published in both Hebrew and English in Berliner format. The English edition is published and sold together with the International New York Times. Both Hebrew and English editions can be read on the Internet. In North America, it comes out as a weekly newspaper, combining articles from the Friday edition with a roundup from the rest of the week. It is known for its staunch left-liberal stance on domestic and foreign issues.
    -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haaretz

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2545819/Uncovered-The-macabre-sex-chamber-Libyas-Colonel-Gaddafi-raped-girls-boys-young-14.html

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.570727

    Gruesome details of Gadhafi’s rape of teenagers and other crimes revealed
    BBC documentary has eyewitness accounts of murder, torture and sexual abuse by the Libyan dictator, who was shot by
    rebels in 2011.
    By Haaretz | Jan. 26, 2014 | 11:35 PM | 26

    Ousted Libyan dictator Muammar Gadhafi kidnapped and raped hundreds of teenagers in specially built sex dungeons, according to a television
    documentary to be screened by the BBC next week.
    The program, “Storyville: Mad Dog – Gadhafi’s Secret World,” will be broadcast in the UK on February 3. Previews of the documentary were
    carried in the British media on Sunday.
    Victims and witnesses state in the documentary that Gadhafi would choose his targets on visits to schools or colleges, patting on the head those
    who caught his eye.
    His security officials would then take the victim to one of several specially designed suites of rooms, where they would be abused and raped by
    the dictator. In one such suite at Tripoli University, there is a fully-equipped gynecological examination room, where victims were tested for
    sexually transmitted diseases before being sexually abused.
    “Some were only 14,” recalled one teacher at a Tripoli school. “They would simply take the girl they wanted. They had no conscience, no morals, not an iota of mercy, even though she was a mere child.”
    Some of the girls were held for years, while others were dumped with appalling injuries.
    “One just disappeared and they never found her again, despite her father and brothers searching for her. Another was found three months later,
    cut, raped and lying in the middle of a park. She had been left for dead.”
    Some victims were drafted into Gadhafi’s unit of private female bodyguards, enduring years of rape and abuse and forced to witness the
    execution of opponents to the regime.
    “Early one morning, we were taken to a closed hall,” one former member recalled. “We were to witness the murder of 17 students. We were not
    allowed to scream. We were made to cheer and shout. To act as though we were delighted by this display. Inside I was crying. They shot them
    all, one by one.”
    “The women would first be raped by the dictator then passed on, like used objects, to one of his sons and eventually to high-ranking officials for more abuse,” said Benghazi-based psychologist Seham Sergewa, who interviewed victims for the International Criminal Court.
    Boys were also forced to serve in Gadhafi’s harem. “He was terribly sexually deviant,” recalled former chief of protocol Nuri Al Mismari.
    “Young boys and so on. He had his own boys. They used to be called the ‘services group’.”
    In making the film, the documentary makers also uncovered evidence that Gadhafi used a private hit squad based in Cuba to eliminate
    opponents, and kept the bodies of victims in freezers.
    Baha Kikhia was the wife of a foreign minister who had a fractious relationship with the dictator and went missing. When Gadhafi’s regime fell,
    she found out that her husband’s body was among those stored.
    “He liked to keep his victims in the refrigerators to look at them now and again,” she said. “He would visit his victims. It was as though they were
    some sort of macabre souvenirs. Something that he could look at and touch to remind himself of his omnipotence. Some had been there as long
    as 25 years.”
    Gadhafi was dragged from a drainpipe and shot by rebels in 2011, during Libya’s civil war.

    January 27, 2014 at 5:40 pm #41775
    ribosome777
    Participant

    perhaps they should beam this trash to school children around the world, what with the “wall” being mandatory

    live ~$~ evil, the brave new world

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_phosphorus

    February 1, 2014 at 1:39 am #41777
    c_howdy
    Participant

    Rule 4: In experimental philosophy we are to look upon propositions inferred by general induction from phenomena as accurately or very nearly true, not withstanding any contrary hypothesis that may be imagined, till such time as other phenomena occur, by which they may either be made more accurate, or liable to exceptions.
    -ISAAC NEWTON, Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica: Book 3, Rules of Reasoning in Philosophy

    yoga-aṅga-anu-ṣṭhānāt aśuddhi-kṣaye jñāna-dīptiḥ āviveka-khyāteḥ
    By the practice of the parts of yoga impurity diminishes until the rise of spiritual knowledge culminates in awareness of reality.
    -PATANJALI, sādhana-pādaḥ Sūtra 28

    …but ordinary persons live on the level of Ksipta or Mudha. The Jivana Yoga of the Gita has a plan for such people too. For such people there is saviour in the form of God.
    -R. N. VYAS, The Bhagavadgita and the Jivana Yoga

    LIVE~~~EVIL?

    Yes, but to make some kind of conclusion from my part I still claim that it’s better to have right state of mind (and also body) before doing anyhing more unusual and extreme.

    It’s clearly practical problem.

    HOWDY

    Ps. Sorry for my broken English.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_sEyky7NlY (nothingistrueeverythingispermitted)

    February 1, 2014 at 10:39 am #41779
    ribosome777
    Participant
    February 4, 2014 at 3:52 am #41781
    c_howdy
    Participant

    Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of motion unless an external force is applied to it.
    -http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr161/lect/history/newton3laws.html

    The defendants in the case of the Lahti biker killings are to be sent for psychiatric tests, following a decision by the Lahti District Court. They will be held in separate prisons throughout the country awaiting the continuation of the trial, which is likely to go on in September-October.
    On Thursday the court session was held in the cellar of the Lahti police headquarters. The accused were ordered to stand before the court one at a time for security measures, which, on the whole, were a bit looser than during the Wednesday session in the underground shelter of Mustankallio.
    Pertti Hämäläinen, Sami Koivula and Eikka Lehtosaari, the bikers accused on three charges of murder, requested and have been granted psychiatric testing. The driver of the trio, Esa Lampinen, charged with being an accessory to the murders, will not been sent for tests, but will also be remained in custody pending the continuation of the trial in the fall.
    The gang members are disputing their culpability in the bloodbath that took place in a Lahti pizzeria on January 18, even though the evidence against them is very strong. The police have video shots of the men before and immediately after the murders.
    The police were able to arrest the men before they could escape into the car waiting for them outside of the pizzeria immediately following the crime. A great amount of gunpowder was found on the hands of the accused, and a shotgun and pistol were found within the restaurant. A third weapon was found in the getaway car.
    The leading district prosecutor Pekka Noronen is against the psychiatric testing, and is demanding life sentences for the men.
    -http://www2.hs.fi/english/archive/today/120500-05.html

    The Kapalikas (“skull-bearers”) most likely originated in South India or the Deccan plateau in the fifth or sixth century C.E. when the corpus of tantric literature was just beginning to develop. The Kapalikas were distributed throughout most of the Deccan plateau as early as the eighth century, most commonly found in Kanci, Mysore, western and central Maharashtra, Ujjain, Madhya Pradesh and Andhra Pradesh. Later sources record their presence in Gujarat, Bundelkhand, and the Vindhya Hills. Post ninth-century sources affirm that the Kapalikas were even present in Northern regions, such as Bihar, Uttar Pradesh, Rajastan, Punjab, West Pakistan and Kashmir.The Kapalikas seem to have died out by the fourteenth century, having perhaps been absorbed by other tantric orders, though some tales claim that Kapalikas still inhabit the jungles of northern Bengal and parts of Assam.
    A mythological origin for the Kapalikas is given in the Goraksa-siddhanta-samgraha, which tells of an occassion upon which the 24 avatars of Vishnu became intoxicated with wine. Varaha and Narasimha, among other powerful avatars began destroying the earth, frightening its inhabitants; Krishna, meanwhile, was filled with adulterous emotions, while Parasurama destroyed a number of Kshatriyas. Shiva became angered by the actions of the gods and assumed the form of 24 Kapalikas in order to battle the avatars. Each Kapalika cut off the head of one avatar, stripped it of its flesh and carried the skull around with them from that point on. With their pride of the avatars dispelled, their heads were returned. This myth probably speaks to the prevalent tension between Tantric schools and the Brahmanic orthodoxy.
    -http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Kapalika_and_Kalamukha

    Psychic powers are called siddhis in Sanskrit. They include telepathy, clairaudience, clairvoyance, premonition and vast array of less well-known powers. They take place through the mediumship of super-individual realms of the mind. The siddhis arise in the collective unconscious where every person, every individual mind and every thing is linked intimately to everything else. They can take place in the past, in the future and even in the realms beyond time-space, yet no matter wonderful they may seem, they are still merely expressions within the mind. Scientific experiments in Russia and elsewhere have measured various psychic phenomena with instruments, but these experiments are not really necessary, for one will discover some of them personally on the path of yoga.
    -SWAMI SATYANANDA SARASWATI, Four Chapters on Freedom

    Sorry for my broken English.

    Now this is actually seemingly very simple matter.

    If somebody wants to create havoc there are those who are very very calculating and those who are not at all.

    Example of this non-calculating approach one can see in that Finnish 1%er slaying where Eikka Lehtosaari & co killed two Bandidos guys and 1 Black Rhinoceros biker.

    Eikka had been already behind the bars several years because of his violence and drug offences and now he did something even more wilder.

    HOWDY

    Ps. By the way would it be already time to try to solve our Jeffrey/Richard/Theodore/Whitey question? And shall we still add another Jeffrey to our question?

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xakp6l_white-prison-gangs_shortfilms (whiteinmates)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFLjF8yp74Q (prayertime00:22-00:30)

    http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2002145425_escape08.html

    Originally published Saturday, January 8, 2005 at 12:00 AM

    Fugitive hid since June in North Carolina store

    A prisoner who escaped in June was recaptured this week and accused of robbery after surviving for months by hiding in a vacant electronics store and eating stolen baby food, police…

    By The Associated Press

    CHARLOTTE, N.C. — A prisoner who escaped in June was recaptured this week and accused of robbery after surviving for months by hiding in a vacant electronics store and eating stolen baby food, police said.

    Authorities said Jeffrey Allen Manchester lived in a 4-by-10-foot closet, played hoops with a mini-basketball net and watched “Spider-Man 2” on a DVD player. He also routed water from an adjacent Toys R Us and installed a smoke detector, they said.

    “I’ve never seen anybody so determined,” said Officer Fred Allen, who spotted the hideaway Sunday. “He wasn’t going to make a stupid mistake. We had to find him.”

    Manchester was four years into a 45-year robbery sentence when he disappeared from the Brown Creek Correctional Institution on June 15. Authorities say he escaped by clinging to the undercarriage of a truck.

    Manchester, 33, now is accused of robbing the Toys R Us Dec. 26, then setting fire to a dentist’s office. Police think he had dental work done while he was on the lam and set the fire to hide his records.

    Police also are reviewing unsolved early morning break-ins at the toy store, connected by a secret door to the former Circuit City space where Manchester lived.

    In the Dec. 26 case, he faces charges of robbery with a dangerous weapon, malicious use of explosives to damage property, burning an unoccupied building, breaking and entering and possession of a firearm by a felon.

    February 5, 2014 at 9:36 pm #41783
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Michael Winn, Pres.
Healing Tao USA

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