March 13, 2006 at 7:42 pm #11416
This piece from China Daily is very interesting in terms of confirming my theory of links between Taoism and Lemuria, the ancient trans-pacific culture of which the aborigines are among the (barely) survivors in modern times.
Serpents reveal links between myths in Australia, China
The rainbow serpent, a mythical creature widespread throughout the continent of Australia, is said to live in water.
A closer look at it reveals that these great serpent-like creatures, usually associated with the rainbow, seem to bear the closest resemblance to the Chinese mythical dragon.
The rainbow serpent is commonly depicted in its terrifying animal form, with a serpent-like body, kangaroo or horse-like head, crocodile teeth, ears or crown of feathers, long, spiked body and fish tail.
Similarly, the form of the Chinese dragon is also a compound of species: the body of a serpent with the scales of a fish, the claws of an eagle, and the horns of a deer.
There are also much deeper connotations of the two figures which suggest the links between myths in Australia and China.
The Aborigines have inhabited the continent of Australia for at least 40,000 years. Human evolution could not have taken place separately in Australia because there is no evidence of the existence of the ape-like predecessors of Homo sapiens. Therefore, the first Aborigines must have come from elsewhere.
No authority disputes that the Australians came from Southeast Asia, arriving somewhere on the northwest of the continent. It is even argued that the ancestors of the Australian Aborigines could have arrived in Australia from mainland Asia, especially China, as the Australian Encyclopaedia described in its fifth edition.
This hypothesis that there must be close historical connections between these two peoples is strengthened by some parallels between the myths from the Australian Aborigines and those of the ancient Chinese people.
The rainbow serpent, for example, is strongly associated with water, life, and of course the arching rainbow in the sky. The connection of rainbow and serpents in China is also recorded in the character of “rainbow” on bones and tortoise shells, taking the shape of two serpents. (The inscriptions on bones and tortoise shells are ancestor of modern Chinese script, dating back to 15th-12th century BC.) The current Chinese character of “rainbow” (hong) takes the radical of “worm” (chong), which etymologically means “serpents.”
In addition, the Aboriginal people believe that the rainbow serpent is the creator of human beings. The counterpart in Chinese myth could be the goddess Nuwa, who, with serpent-like body, created human beings out of yellow earth and mud. Moreover, in Chinese myth, serpents and dragons are often identical.
Another example is the close and vital bond with their land documented in the myths of both the Australian Aboriginal and Chinese people, with similar mythic motifs or themes.
In Australian myths, totem ancestors often rose up from below the earth and went down into the ground again after their travels.
In Australia, particularly in the central and northern part of the continent, the great bulk of the mythology is concerned with the origin of the totemic ancestors and their wandering and activities in the time of what Aborigines call the Dreaming or the Eternal Dreamtime.
In China, a high development of ancestral myths can also be found. Similarly, the Chinese goddess Nuwa was said to have risen out of the earth.
In Aboriginal myth, when the ancestral spirits travelled across the country, they metamorphosed into the physical features of the landscape. This motif of metamorphosis recalls the Pangu myth in China.
Pangu was the first-born semi-divine human, and it was from his dying body that the universe was formed. His eyes became the sun and moon, and his blood turned into rivers. His hair grew into trees and plants, his sweat turned into streaming rains, and it was his body that became soil, showing the paramount importance of soil or lands in the Chinese tradition.
In Aboriginal myths, sacred boards, such as churinga, are often considered to be the dwelling places of Dreaming ancestors and are the tie that links living human beings with the land.
A similar belief is also recorded in the Chinese character of “ancestor” (zu) on bones or tortoise shells. The radical in the character etymologically symbolizes erecting a stone on the earth, then on top of that placing one or two stones or boards, which are regarded as the dwelling places of the ancestors, and sprinkling human blood (usually by opening arm veins) over the stones or boards in the appropriate ritual context.
Finally, through ritual, the Aborigines believe that they can intercede with the earth to maintain or increase sources of certain foods, materials or species and to sustain the community’s relationship with the land.
Likewise, in China, according to “Historical Records” (Shi Ji) by Sima Qian of the Western Han Dynasty (206 BC-AD 24), the history of the performance of rites and ceremonies to worship the earth could be traced back to the time of Wuhuai who even predated Fuxi (24th century BC).
The motif of ancestors’ rising out of the earth and returning to their place of emergence shows the close links between the Aborigines and their homeland.
Myths from the Arunta and related tribes of central Australia recount how there were said to be several suns, who went up into the sky one by one.
The sun, like many of the original totem ancestors, arose out of the ground, and later, carrying a firebrand, ascended to the sky. However, every night she descends to the earth before emerging again in the morning.
The resemblance it bears to its Chinese parallel is striking. It was from Tanggu, which was a large sea far beyond the East China Sea and where the 10 suns lived (before Yi the Archer shot nine of them), that the suns took turns running along the fixed celestial orbit from east to west in the morning before returning to Tanggu in the evening.
It must be pointed out that this kind of link between people to their homeland is not usually found in nomadic societies. However, this is emphatically not the case with the Australian Aborigines.
A third example is the institution of marriage by totemic ancestors in Aboriginal myth.
Lewis H. Morgan, in his monumental “Ancient Society,” describes the conjugal system on the basis of the eight classes, which prevail among Australian Aborigines. The organization upon sex has not been found, as yet, in any tribes out of Australia.
However, a typically Chinese system analogous to the eight classes is the 64 symbolic hexagrams, which are formed by joining in pairs, one above the other, eight basic trigrams (bagua). The legendary Emperor Fuxi was said to have discovered these trigrams on the back of a tortoise. In Chinese myth, Fuxi and Nuwa are patrons of the institutions of marriage.
Some Aboriginal myths explained how the ancestors came to Australia. In Northern Australian myths, ancestral beings rose out of the sea, or came to the continent from above the sea, bringing with them the ritual law and the sacred ritual objects.
A typical myth said that it was a flock of migratory birds who discovered the vast uninhabited continent. When they returned to their homeland far to the east, they told the animals, which at that time was in the form of men and women, of the land of promise. The animals then came in canoes, reached the continent and made their homes there.
The accounts of canoe journeys across the sea are historically suggestive. These accounts coincide with the records of kangaroos in “The Classic of Mountains and Seas” (Shanhai Jing) and “Huainan Zi” (a classic written in the 2nd century BC), two valuable sources of classical Chinese mythology.
Myth is said to be a kind of autobiographical ethnography by which the culture of a primitive tribe could be deduced from an analysis of its myths. Myth reflects, expresses, and explores a people’s self-image and bears witness to archaic modes of thought and, sometimes, even historical events that were otherwise difficult to reconstruct or record.
An often-cited example is the Aboriginal Dieri myth of the Kadimakara monsters, which was the direct cause of the geological expedition to Lake Eyre.
As the myth described, the fossil bones of these prehistoric monsters were discovered. The parallels between the Australian Aboriginal and Chinese myths seem to suggest that the characteristic Aboriginal myths were spread by a wave or series of people moving from southern China.
It shows that, at least from the mythological perspective, there is solid ground for the anthropological hypothesis. Of course, this hypothesis could only be justified when we can harmonize this view with the evidence derived from other archaeological, geographical, linguistic, and physical sources.
Source: China DailyMarch 13, 2006 at 8:06 pm #11417
Yes, this is very interesting. I had a dream that the Reptilians did something with human DNA, that they must have changed something about us but it was unclear. I wouldn’t say that we were created by them, but definately a partial genetic mix between them.
About the suns, we have two, one is directly behind the moon so we can’t see it, I agree with the Aboriginals on this one.
Michael, you said in some of your earlier posts that Daoism has roots 70,000 years ago. I was wondering if you could elaborate on this theory.
FajinMarch 13, 2006 at 8:51 pm #11419
You mentioned reptiles, dracos etc. This is very interesting, because I never would have guessed that my spiritual journey would have lead me back in full circle to the related topics you have discussed about. Can you please tell me more about your experiences/knowledge with the whole reptile thing. Did you meet someone who told you about all of this, read something about it, or have personally experienced it through physical world experience, meditation, dream, or something else?
I had a dream once, on a red like planet and a huge explosion took place on the planet, like nuclear or something and it wiped out everything, and I don’t remember anything after that.
Also had another dream or experience with dark, black tentacles, moving like crazy, and spreading like crazy, I felt and was filled with fear, and horror.
Also had some other weird experiences where eyes were moving, or blinking really fast like downloading info…
Anyone had similar experiences?March 13, 2006 at 9:24 pm #11421
My experience was that I was a Reptilian myself in Lemuria. Reptilians are not Draconians. Reptilians have two arms and two legs with green scaly skin and they are about 8-10 feet tall or something like that. I was a warrior because I had armour and I know that I could do things like fly. Everyone was telepathic at the time. It was more like an out of body experience and I knew that I was this Reptilian male.
There was a nuclear war and many were wiped out, I think that this is the reason for the degeneration of humans and the Reptilians toying with their DNA, wether on the moon or somewhere else. There were blue humans and green humans and were very big and strong as well. Much different then we are. I suspect the whole Illuminati sect is real today and that it is a Reptilian sect who want to manipulate humans. As far as what I know, they think humans are puny and inferior and that this universe was meant for them. This is as much as I know on the subject about my experiences.
FajinMarch 13, 2006 at 11:02 pm #11423
Genographic Project may be relevant to this topic.
NatGeo link below.March 14, 2006 at 5:06 am #11425
First thing I want to say is: despite the possible accuracy of aboriginals originating from china, they do appear, at least physiologically, to bear much closer resemblance to sri lankans.
I have an aboriginal brother in law and have spent years in his ‘country’ in north western australia.
The serpent topic is raised often when near permanent water sources such as deep rivers, billabongs and springs.
I have had many stories told to me of the serpent legends, and have had some personal experiences with their activity/presence in the river.
The main difference between the chinese view point/approach and the aboriginal one is that the chinese seem to have been able to integrate and harmonise the serpents into their traditions in a benevolent way, to their own benefit. Whereas in the aboriginal cultures, fear reigns supreme. To the extent that people freeze, fight tremble etc.
This fear, which runs as an undercurrent through their society, cripples the people and appears to me to be a major impediment to the happiness.
)matMarch 14, 2006 at 11:05 am #11427
I really enjoy communicating with someone who is BeyondThoughts….but still open to having a few.
One story is that Mars was previously inhabited by human (-oids?), and destroyed their planet in a nuclear war.
It may be your destiny to recover that memory – and the darkness and fragmentation that followed – and resolve its impact on current human consciousness and our attraction to repeating history. Alchemical meditation would be a useful tool in your process.
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