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December 19, 2005 at 9:52 pm #9488Michael WinnKeymaster
An interesting contrast with classical Taoist sexology….although I hear even a few sex clinics sporting taoist methods have recently blossomed.
greetings from Amsterdam,
citiy of free love..for a pricemichael
————SEX IN THE CHINESE CITY
By Antoaneta Bezlova
Inter Press Service
December 3, 2003http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/EL03Ad01.html
BEIJING – A succession of “kiss and tell” books and “one-night stand”
diaries, full of what officials call pornographic detail, have both
fascinated and shocked Chinese readers in recent months, marking the
emergence of the topic of sex out of the closet.Long a social taboo, sex has somewhat overnight become a boldly public
subject, drawing attention from university auditoriums to press rooms and
publishing houses. Scholars on sexology and sociology have just unveiled
their list of China’s “top 10 sex-related news stories in 2003” and
announced that they will make their evaluation an annual event.University academics have termed the burgeoning changes in sex culture a
Chinese “sex revolution”, drawing parallels with the 1960s sexual liberation
movement in the West. So as not to be left behind, publishing houses have
scrambled to roll out a stack of sexually explicit books, which, much to
their expectations, have scaled the bestsellers’ list in Chinese bookstores
this year.Break-up Dawn , a book documenting 19 women’s one-night stand experiences in
search of sexual fulfillment, has sold nearly 200,000 copies in Shanghai
alone since it was published in May. Two other titles are vying for the top
spot on the same bestseller list — Happiness that Lasts Half-day Long and
V-I Want to Lay You on a Bed of Roses, both unabashed erotica reads.“Talking and writing about sex is no longer a clandestine affair,” says Wang
Ming, a university professor who teaches Chinese language and literature.
“Students like to be different from their parents even if this means showing
too much affection in public places. Writing about sex has also become a way
of asserting one’s individual freedom.”Fashioning herself as the Chinese soul mate of Catherine Millet, the French
art critic who shocked audiences by graphically describing her one-night
stands with a succession of men, a journalist in southern China has launched
an online sex diary talking in detail about her multiple sexual encounters.Muzimei’s sex diaries, published on Blogcn.com beginning in summer, have
become the talk of the town, setting off public debate about whether love
and sex go their own separate ways. More than 160,000 people had logged on
to the site by mid-November, and the number was growing by 6,000 a day, the
Guangzhou-based Yangcheng Evening News reported. However, the links to
Muzimei’s diary have been shut down twice after thousands of the site’s
readers insulted the writer over the web.“I record my life faithfully, despite disturbances and men’s repulsion,” the
25-year-old author wrote in one of her entries. A columnist with the
Guangzhou City Pictorial magazine, Li Li — her pen name is Muzimei —
claims to have had sexual relations with 65 men, both Chinese and foreign.
“I have a job that keeps me busy, and in my spare time I have a very
humanistic hobby — making love,” Li writes. “The partner I take in my hobby
is one I choose and always changes. I rely on a sufficient supply pool. I do
not need to take any responsibility for them; neither should I give them
love. They will not be trouble for me. They are like CDs, which will not
make a sound unless I play.”News reports say that Muzimei’s diary has attracted frowns from the
government, and this month she voluntarily stopped uploading on the website
and left her columnist job. Catherine Millet, whose 2001 autobiography The
Sexual Life of Catherine M became a phenomenal bestseller in France and
other countries in which it has been published, remained discreet about the
real identities of her numerous lovers whom she met in the single clubs of
Paris and in the Bois de Boulogne.Li Li, however, caused a storm when she divulged details of her affair with
the member of a popular Guangzhou rock band. Many felt betrayed that instead
of remaining a warrior for sexual freedom, Li had sought cheap fame by
generating celebrity gossip. An online survey by Sina.com, one of China’s
major Internet portals, showed that 22 percent of the people who visited
Muzimei’s site thought that she was seeking fame at any price. Some 18
percent of the 38,000 people surveyed condemned her behavior as shameful.
However, another 23 percent thought that her attitude toward sex was
nevertheless a demonstration of sexual freedom and a challenge to China’s
priggish moral standards.Whether a true account of libertine philosophy or a straight-talking
testimony of sexual exploits, Muzimei’s diary is a reflection of a sea of
change in China’s attitudes and the country’s behavior toward sex. There is
no regret expressed about her life of sensual pleasure, not a trace of guilt
in her accounts and no underlying chronicle of use and abuse. The diary also
confirms new findings by Chinese sexual sociologists over the last few years
that virginity has lost its traditional social value as a crucial part of
China’s sexual morality.And as the country quietly copes with a subtle sexual revolution, premarital
sex has become the norm rather than the exception. According to research by
Li Yinhe, a researcher with the China Academy of Social Sciences, in 1980
the rate of premarital sex in Beijing stood at only 15 percent. But the same
study revealed that by 2002 this rate has already reached 80 percent.Li, who has been surveying attitudes towards premarital sex for more than 20
years, also found that China has overcome its preoccupation with virginity.
Furthermore, a look through China’s “top sex stories of 2003” reveals how
liberalized attitudes towards sex, virginity and cohabitation are
spearheading changes in law and education. One of the stories tells of a
dispute between a local police station in western Shaanxi province and a
couple who were detained for watching pornographic films at home. After a
much-publicized lawsuit, the couple won the suit against the police, who
were charged with intruding on their privacy at home.————
December 19, 2005 at 10:51 pm #9489spongebobParticipantyep, that’s about it. it may even understate the “awakening.” at least in big cities. i’ve never met a girl here who wasnt a fan of “Sex in the City.” and they become fans of “South Park” quickly enough.
December 20, 2005 at 4:12 am #9491jsritParticipantBby here you mean China? Girls in China watch Sex in the City?! South Park? lol
December 20, 2005 at 10:14 pm #9493spongebobParticipanti keep writing “yep” and it says i have no message body so i’ll have to write more i guess. terseness is forbidden.
yep.
December 22, 2005 at 1:45 am #9495jsritParticipant“greetings from Amsterdam,
city of free love..for a price”What do you mean by “for a price”? Can you elaborate? Can their culture not contain the freedom? Does it boil over? I wonder why?
December 22, 2005 at 7:56 am #9497JernejParticipantyuan chi
yuan=chinese monetary unitso…
dollar chi = neutral chiDecember 23, 2005 at 3:04 am #9499jsritParticipantWhat are you saying? Money is nuetral chi according to the chinese language?
December 23, 2005 at 11:10 am #9501JernejParticipantMoney does not stink, a saying.
Money ammassed with a purpuse is limited in time to purpuse.
Permanent money is neutral.Though Chia says (a/some) chi is money.
December 24, 2005 at 9:59 pm #9503Michael WinnKeymasterAmsterdam is the only major city in Europe where prostitution is legalized. They have a famous red light district wher the ladies model themselves in glowing bikinis, lit by black lights behind glass doors, to attract their customers.
It has a freeing effect on dutch society, even if some of the sex workers are in fiinancial/slave bondange.
I once did a deep meditation, tracking the vortex above the red light district into the soul planes. Quite interesting, too long to go into right now.
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December 26, 2005 at 5:45 am #9505little1Participantplease do get into it
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