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February 14, 2010 at 6:00 pm #33317singing oceanParticipant
The pure virtue qualities of cultivation do provide guidance though, it is true, to something that we can move towards, and grow in our lives.
February 14, 2010 at 6:10 pm #33319StevenModeratorThanks for linking that interview.
It was worth watching.The little I’ve seen from that interview with Saida,
gives me the feeling that she has some really
healthy views toward sexuality. It’s quite
refreshing actually.Thanks again,
StevenFebruary 14, 2010 at 6:22 pm #33321StevenModerator>>>No, I’m not. I’m referring to the fact that
>>>”understanding your true nature” is not a panacea to all problems.
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>>>Since I have never said that it is was and
>>>certainly did not in my post, you are talking about
>>>something different.Fair enough!
>>>On these comments, I think I agree pretty much in full.
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>>>YIPEEEEEEAlways good to find some common ground, reaching a
mutual point of contention 🙂>>>Nice chatting my friend
As always,
StevenFebruary 15, 2010 at 5:53 am #33323NnonnthParticipantFebruary 15, 2010 at 6:07 am #33325NnonnthParticipant(sorry hit return)
… Mantak forewarded her jade egg book. Her Swimming Dragon demo on YouTube is recommended over porn any day.
Some people go into themselves and have a look at what is really there; others are content to try go along with the majority, but it is the first who ultimately become deeply comfortable within themselves, not the second.
There is all this (quite societally necessary) ‘supposed to’ stuff about sex, which varies massively with culture and period, but on the other hand — read Krafft-Ebing, Havelock Ellis, Kinsey, etc. There aren’t too many sexually ‘normal’ people around. One should be gentle with necessary hypocrisies in others, but once you get a handle on them in yourself, they tend to appear silly.
February 15, 2010 at 6:48 pm #33327StevenModeratorThis sort of goes off-topic, but reconnects . . .
Something interesting happened today.
Today someone totally screwed me over.
It completely blindsided me, because I didn’t see it coming.
I had been nice to the person, and I
didn’t see they had ulterior motives.Needless to say, I could have legitimately gotten angry because
the other person did something bad, but strangely enough
I didn’t. I just smiled. I smiled externally and internally.
It didn’t even require effort or a thought to do so; it was
spontaneous.I realized in that moment that the other person’s actions had
nothing to do with me whatsoever. Their actions were theirs
alone, and I was merely observing their selfishness.Strangely enough, this had the miraculous effect of making
me feel wonderful. All these discussions we’ve been having
about shame, sexual issues, society, tensions etc. suddenly
crystallized.I realized, why the FUCK do I give a SHIT what other people
think about me? (excuse my language, but it felt particularly
appropriate here 🙂 ) The application arising from the concept
that what other people do, think, say has very little to do
with me personally whatsoever–just like what happened today.Anything that someone else thinks, says, or does, is
ultimately THEIR DEAL, not mine.That doesn’t mean that suddenly I’m now going to be
non-compassionate or disrespectful to others: quite the
contrary, as I try to see others with compassion and intend
to continue to do so. That’s who I am. However, I suddenly
no longer feel any shame, guilt, need for approval, etc.
with regard to anything–sexual or non-sexual for that matter.
I now feel that as long as I feel good about myself, and feel
that I’m being true to who I am, that the rest is irrelevant.It’s interesting how in one single moment your life can
change. It’s interesting how a terrible situation ended
up being better medicine than all the alchemy I’ve done
up to this point.The Tao gave me exactly what I needed today, and I am grateful.
Steven
February 16, 2010 at 5:56 am #33329NnonnthParticipant<>
Exactly what I meant… did you ever read Chuang Tzu? Sure you would enjoy it.
February 16, 2010 at 8:29 am #33331qtfaceParticipantI don’t think it’s off topic at all but i bet all your alchemical work has made it possible for the TAO life force to assist you in this way.
I’ve recently had a somewhat similar experience. I applied for a new job & didn’t get it. First time ever I’ve been turned down, I’m used to getting what i want. Next morning in fusion practice my shadow self is ASKING to integrate. How cool is that? What I’ve gained from this “loss” is of immeasureable value.February 16, 2010 at 11:42 pm #33333StevenModerator>>>did you ever read Chuang Tzu? Sure you would enjoy it.
No, not really. I’ve only heard snippets ala “the Butterfly Dream”.
Usually I don’t really philosophical stuff since I find it to
be a little abstract, i.e. non-pragmatic, i.e. unless I can
experience it, it doesn’t resonate. But then again, I’ve never
really read it, so I really can’t judge it either.S
February 16, 2010 at 11:47 pm #33335StevenModeratorYou’re definitely right about the cultivation.
It was probably the cultivation that made me ripe to
capitalize on the moment in question.Also, my condolences on your unsuccessful job acquisition,
or should I say congratulations on the magnificent
reward you got instead! Great to hear!Best,
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