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Short Fasts: new evidence it helps immune system

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  • June 7, 2014 at 2:38 am #42535
    Michael Winn
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    note: It’s important to note the “short” here. I believe long term fasting depletes the reserve of jing (vital substance) in the body. That is different than “bigu”, in which a process of increasing the production of jing from the pre-natal state is initiated to feed our post-natal body. -Michael

    FASTING FOR THREE DAYS CAN REGENERATE ENTIRE IMMUNE SYSTEM, STUDY FINDS
    By Sarah Knapton
    The Telegraph
    June 5, 2014

    http://nhne-pulse.org/fasting-for-three-days-can-regenerate-entire-immune-system/

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/10878625/Fasting-for-three-days-can-regenerate-entire-immune-system-study-finds.html

    Fasting for as little as three days can regenerate the entire immune
    system, even in the elderly, scientists have found in a breakthrough
    described as “remarkable”.

    Although fasting diets have been criticised by nutritionists for being
    unhealthy, new research suggests starving the body kick-starts stem
    cells into producing new white blood cells, which fight off infection.

    Scientists at the University of Southern California say the discovery
    could be particularly beneficial for people suffering from damaged
    immune systems, such as cancer patients on chemotherapy.

    It could also help the elderly whose immune system becomes less
    effective as they age, making it harder for them to fight off even
    common diseases.

    The researchers say fasting “flips a regenerative switch” which prompts
    stem cells to create brand new white blood cells, essentially
    regenerating the entire immune system.

    “It gives the ‘OK’ for stem cells to go ahead and begin proliferating
    and rebuild the entire system,” said Prof Valter Longo, Professor of
    Gerontology and the Biological Sciences at the University of California.

    “And the good news is that the body got rid of the parts of the system
    that might be damaged or old, the inefficient parts, during the fasting.

    “Now, if you start with a system heavily damaged by chemotherapy or
    ageing, fasting cycles can generate, literally, a new immune system.”

    Prolonged fasting forces the body to use stores of glucose and fat but
    also breaks down a significant portion of white blood cells.

    During each cycle of fasting, this depletion of white blood cells
    induces changes that trigger stem cell-based regeneration of new immune
    system cells.

    In trials humans were asked to regularly fast for between two and four
    days over a six-month period.

    Scientists found that prolonged fasting also reduced the enzyme PKA,
    which is linked to ageing and a hormone which increases cancer risk and
    tumour growth.

    “We could not predict that prolonged fasting would have such a
    remarkable effect in promoting stem cell-based regeneration of the
    hematopoietic system,” added Prof Longo.

    “When you starve, the system tries to save energy, and one of the things
    it can do to save energy is to recycle a lot of the immune cells that
    are not needed, especially those that may be damaged,” Dr Longo said.

    “What we started noticing in both our human work and animal work is that
    the white blood cell count goes down with prolonged fasting. Then when
    you re-feed, the blood cells come back. So we started thinking, well,
    where does it come from?”

    Fasting for 72 hours also protected cancer patients against the toxic
    impact of chemotherapy.

    “While chemotherapy saves lives, it causes significant collateral damage
    to the immune system. The results of this study suggest that fasting may
    mitigate some of the harmful effects of chemotherapy,” said co-author
    Tanya Dorff, assistant professor of clinical medicine at the USC Norris
    Comprehensive Cancer Center and Hospital.

    “More clinical studies are needed, and any such dietary intervention
    should be undertaken only under the guidance of a physician.”

    “We are investigating the possibility that these effects are applicable
    to many different systems and organs, not just the immune system,” added
    Prof Longo.

    However, some British experts were sceptical of the research.

    Dr Graham Rook, emeritus professor of immunology at University College
    London, said the study sounded “improbable”.

    Chris Mason, Professor of Regenerative Medicine at UCL, said: “There is
    some interesting data here. It sees that fasting reduces the number and
    size of cells and then re-feeding at 72 hours saw a rebound.

    “That could be potentially useful because that is not such a long time
    that it would be terribly harmful to someone with cancer.

    “But I think the most sensible way forward would be to synthesize this
    effect with drugs. I am not sure fasting is the best idea. People are
    better eating on a regular basis.”

    Dr Longo added: “There is no evidence at all that fasting would be
    dangerous while there is strong evidence that it is beneficial.

    “I have received emails from hundreds of cancer patients who have
    combined chemo with fasting, many with the assistance of the oncologists.

    “Thus far the great majority have reported doing very well and only a
    few have reported some side effects including fainting and a temporary
    increase in liver markers. Clearly we need to finish the clinical
    trials, but it looks very promising.”

    June 15, 2014 at 8:11 am #42536
    Steven
    Moderator

    >>>note: It’s important to note the “short” here.
    >>>I believe long term fasting depletes the
    >>>reserve of jing (vital substance) in the body.

    I think even short-term fasting depletes the kidneys. It’s just that the trade-off you get in return may be beneficial.

    In particular, when you fast, your body panics and thinks it is going to die . . . so out of a perceived need to prevent this, it activates its processes that it had allowed to go into senescence. However, it uses energy from the kidney storage to do this. Like if you have a cup of coffee [not that I drink coffee, as an aside], it wakes you up and stimulates you, but it does so by triggering a release of stored kidney energy.

    A short-term fast is unlikely to produce too much harm . . . likely not much more than a cup of coffee would . . but it could help jump-start your body out of a stuck mode. A long-term fast would be equivalent to drinking coffee continuously . . . just continuous depletion of kidney energy with little actual benefit.

    S

    June 16, 2014 at 5:30 pm #42538
    diogowatson
    Participant

    There’a documentary film on the subject: eat, fast and live longer.

    worth seeing

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