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Singularity: Does Time End in 2012 or some future date?

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  • September 24, 2008 at 7:51 am #29193
    Michael Winn
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    note: this is a good overview in that it embraces both the linear historical models and spiritual models of measuring change. However, it doesn’t good far enough in my opinion, in considering what time really is, i.e. it doens’t actually exist since all events are simultaneous only happening in different dimensions. But this is a good start for folks with questions about 2012. Michael.

    SINGULARITIES – THE SHAPE OF THE FUTURE
    By Peter Russell
    Waking Up In Time / The Spirit of Now

    http://www.peterrussell.com/WUIT/Sing.php

    As we saw in the first chapter, accelerating change is a pattern that runs
    throughout the history of evolution. The Big Bang, or whatever it was,
    happened ten billion years ago (give or take a couple of billion years). The
    evolution of simple lifeforms began four billion years ago. Multicellular
    life appeared a billion or so years ago. The evolution of complex nervous
    systems, made possible by the emergence of vertebrates, began several
    hundred million years ago. Mammals appeared tens of millions of years ago.
    The genus Homo first stood on the planet a couple of million years ago. Homo
    sapiens, appeared several hundred thousand years ago. The shift to Homo
    sapiens sapiens that was triggered by the emergence of language and tool
    use, and which resulted in the Agricultural Revolution, began tens of
    thousands of years ago. Civilization — the movement into towns and cities
    — started several thousand years ago. The Industrial Revolution began a few
    centuries ago. And the Information Revolution is but a few decades old.

    Each new development has occurred in a fraction the time of the previous one
    — somewhere between a quarter and a tenth the time.

    The stages of evolution that I¹ve chosen here are, of course, somewhat
    arbitrary. One could argue that other events marked equally significant
    leaps forward, or that some that have been included should be dropped. This
    would lead to different sets of times and to different ratios between them.
    But however one chooses the significant markers, the pattern is generally
    the same — the intervals get shorter and shorter. If evolution continues to
    follow this pattern in the future — and we have seen there are good reasons
    to suppose it will — then future developments will happen in even shorter
    times. The intervals will drop from decades, to years, to months. We would
    be heading towards a moment when the intervals decreased to zero, and the
    rate of change became infinite. This is the possible singualarity I referred
    to earlier; a point where the equations break down and cease to have any
    meaning.

    A simple mathematical example is the series 1/2+1/4+1/8+1/16+1/32
    +1/64+1/128+ . . . (the three dots are a mathematician’s way of indicating
    that the series goes on forever). You might think that if you keep on adding
    more terms to the series, each one half the size of the preceding term, you
    could make the final sum as large as you liked; but it turns out that
    however many terms you add, the sum will never quite reach 2. It will get
    closer and closer to 2, but never actually get there. The series is said to
    tend towards a limit (in this case the limit is 2). In a similar way, if
    major developments continue to occur in shorter and shorter times, there
    will be a corresponding time limit to our evolutionary progress. This does
    not mean there will be a limit to how much evolution we can experience. The
    opposite in fact. We would find ourselves evolving so fast that we
    experienced an unimaginable degree of evolution within a finite time. The
    time limit would be the date in the future when our rate of development
    became infinitely rapid.

    The Singularity

    When might this moment occur? People such as Vernor Vinge, who chart the
    acceleration of technological development, argue for a date somewhere around
    the year 2035. They believe the trigger for the singularity will be the
    development of the super-intelligent computer. Although current computers
    are very fast by human standards, they are still not nearly as complex as
    our own brains. In terms of sheer processing capacity, the human brain, with
    its tens of billions of neurons, is around a million times more powerful
    than a computer. That is why you and I can easily pick out a person from a
    background of trees and buildings, and recognize them as someone we know,
    all in a fraction of second, while a robot still has a hard time following
    the white line down the middle of the road.

    However, if computing power keeps doubling every eighteen months, as it has
    done for the last twenty years, then sometime in the 2030s there will be
    computers that can equal the human brain¹s abilities. From there it is only
    a small step to the computer that can surpass the human brain. There would
    then be little point in human beings¹designing future computers;
    super-intelligent machines would be able to design better ones, and do so
    faster. Once super-intelligent machines, rather than human beings, drove the
    rate of progress, an exponential runaway effect would be created. Computer
    power would no longer be doubling once every eighteen months. A simple
    mathematical analysis shows that super-intelligent computers designing even
    more intelligent machines, which in turn could design yet more intelligent
    machines would cause the doubling time to drop from eighteen months to nine
    months, to four-and-a-half months, to nine weeks, to thirty days, to fifteen
    days . . . Another two weeks after that, computing power would have reached
    infinity. We would have arrived at a singularity — the point at which the
    mathematical equations break down, and the old laws no longer apply.

    Such a scenario is based on technological development alone. But, as I
    argued in the previous chapter, there is good reason to believe that before
    we arrive at some such technological singularity we will have already moved
    into the next phase of evolution, the development of human consciousness.
    Once it takes hold inner development is likely to progress even more rapidly
    than technological development. We could arrive at a spiritual singularity
    — a moment of unimaginably rapid inner awakening — before we reached any
    technological singularity.

    Timewave Zero

    Other analyses of historical trends also point to a possible singularity
    occuring sometime in the next half century. One approach is that made by the
    American philosopher of science, Terence McKenna. He has developed a fractal
    mathematical function that, he claims, charts the overall rate of ingression
    of novelty into the world. The curve that results is not a smooth curve, but
    one that has peaks and troughs corresponding to the peaks and troughs of
    human history.

    The most significant characteristic of McKenna¹s timewave is that the shape
    repeats itself, but over shorter and shorter intervals of time. The curve
    shows a surge in novelty between 15000 and 8000 b.c. corresponding to the
    approximate dates of the Neolithic Age and the emergence of agriculture.
    Exactly the same pattern is repeated, although sixty-four times faster, from
    a.d.1750 to 1825 — the period known as the European Enlightenment and the
    beginning of the Industrial Era.

    Another surge of novelty occurred around 500 b.c. This was the time when Lao
    Tsu, Plato, Zoroaster, Buddha, and others were having a major influence on
    the millennia to come. It saw the rise of Ancient Greece and the beginnings
    of European culture. This surge continued for several centuries, then slowed
    down in the fourth century a.d. with the Fall of Rome, and finally
    spluttered to an end with the onset of the Dark Ages. The repeating nature
    of McKenna¹s timewave shows the same pattern recurring in the twentieth
    century, from 1967 through to the early 1990s — again sixty-four times as
    fast as before. Later, around 2010, it repeats again, and sixty-four times
    faster still.

    This repeating historical pattern corresponds to a series in which each
    additional term is one sixty-fourth the length of the previous one. The
    series has an infinite number of terms, but as with other series of this
    type its sum is finite. That is to say, it comes to a definite end — a time
    when the cycles of change are compressed from years to months to weeks to
    days… McKenna calls this point ³Timewave Zero.² Its date, according to his
    calculations, is December 21, 2012.

    The year 2012 seems frighteningly close. One¹s immediate response might be
    that rates of change could not become that fast in so short a time. Yet we
    should not forget that when estimating the pace of the future we tend to
    think in terms of today¹s pace, and our initial projections nearly always
    fall short. Many as yet unforeseen advances and revolutions could take the
    rate of change far beyond what we now imagine possible.

    We should also remember that it would not be the material progress that
    would be going so fast, but our inner spiritual development.

    An Evolutionary Asymptote?

    Needless to say, McKenna¹s formula is only one possible model of the curve
    of human history.

    My own approach has been to try and fit various mathematical curves to our
    evolutionary progress and see where the curve is heading. Such attempts
    inevitably involve a number of assumptions. How, for example, do we measure
    ³progress²? Should we count social and political innovations such as the
    welfare state along with scientific discoveries and technological
    breakthroughs? And what values should be assigned to particular advances?
    Was the invention of photocopying as significant as that of the printing
    press?

    Even having chosen a set of significant steps and plotted them as a graph,
    it is still not easy to see what type of function describes the curve. There
    certainly are mathematical techniques for deciding how well an equation fits
    a curve. But having found a ³best fit,² the possibility always remains that
    some untried type of function might fit even better.

    Over the years I have tried many different sets of data, and many different
    functions. The result is a variety of graphs each approximating the pattern
    of human evolution, but none exact or definitive. Even so, nearly all of
    them have one trend in common. Sooner or later they become asymptotic —
    that is to say, the curve goes vertical, signifying an infinitely fast rate
    of change. Some have their asymptote in the near future, others have it a
    century or two ahead.

    We are led to a startling and mind-boggling conclusion. If we survive our
    present challenges, and our rate of development keeps on accelerating, we
    are not going to continue evolving for eons into the future. We could see
    the whole of our future evolution — as much development as we can conceive
    of, and more — compressed into a century or so, or less. Within a few
    generations, perhaps within our own lifetimes, we could reach the end of our
    evolutionary journey.

    Within a finite time we could taste infinity.

    Coping with Compression

    There are, of course, many reasons why we may not reach the final stages of
    compression. First we have to steer our way through our current set of
    crises. And even if we do survive these challenges, we may well discover
    further testing points ahead. If we fail to respond to them appropriately we
    might find ourselves set back to some earlier, and slower, phase of
    evolution.

    There is also the question of whether our minds could tolerate
    ever-increasing change. We might, for example, be able to cope with a pace
    double that of today, and possibly a pace ten times as fast. But what about
    a hundred times, or a thousand times? Is there an ultimate limit to how fast
    the human mind can adapt?

    From our current mode of consciousness it may be very hard to imagine
    ourselves coping with such astronomical rates of change. But who knows what
    might be possible once our minds are liberated from their attachment to
    material things. We may relate to change in a very different way; and our
    minds may then operate at a very different pace.

    An example of this sometimes occurs at the point of death. Relieved of its
    ties to the senses, the mind seems to function at an altogether different
    speed. People who have brushed with death often report seeing the whole of
    their life flash before their eyes. In clock time the review may only last a
    second or so; but in that ³moment² they can relive years of experience.

    Finally, we should recall that future our evolutionary progress is likely to
    be less material in nature. If we do come through these troubled times and
    continue with our development, it will be our perceptions, our attitudes,
    our thinking, and our awareness that will be changing faster and faster, not
    necessarily the world around. We will be experiencing an ever-accelerating
    inner awakening. This may turn out to be far easier to handle than
    ever-accelerating material change. Indeed, we would probably welcome it.

    September 24, 2008 at 9:31 am #29194
    wendy
    Participant

    ‘Coincidentally’ I wanted to post something similar yesterday while reading the news of the young man who killed people in a school in Finland. Like a cascade I felt that ‘thanks to’ the dying of people we accelarate much faster.

    Since the population on this planet is the highest ever I figured that with so many people dying there has to be a certain shift happening at some point. All this coming and going of so many souls has to have some effect.
    It also makes sense why higher developed people ‘have to’ die as well, to support that shift from a higher perspective, which makes the dying of those people no longer a ‘blame’, or a judgment from the part of the living ones, but a true sacrifice of those who choose to pass on and help the accelaration to happen.

    I am definite not in place to have comments on the mathematical matter of the shift ahead but from the perspective of life and death I do have a feeling why all is happening so much faster and with much more intensity. I also see why it is so important to honor the ancestors-deceased ones and ask them for support. They seem to be much closer and more open for us to access and help us… or should I say, helping each other, this world and the other worlds, all the dimensions synchronize much more as one.

    Maybe we better prepare ourselves for when the dimensions do shift together as one. It might look as an apocalyptic horror movie.
    It might be a good idea to start to knock on the different doors and peep a bit, not becoming overwhelmed when all the doors open up at once…

    September 26, 2008 at 3:16 am #29196
    Michael Winn
    Keymaster

    I am not sure that getting murdered by a possessed teen is part of the coming population shift, I believe that will come more from natural disaster, when Mother Earth decides it is time for the Big Push of final labor pains.

    as for Why? time is shifting faster, that I believe is related to greater intensity of the new solar being that came in a few years back….

    missed you in Stonehenge, will be writing about that shortly.

    m

    September 26, 2008 at 9:27 am #29198
    wendy
    Participant

    Agree, I have been highlighting just one part of the big shift. There is never one single reason why shifts occur, it is a music play where all the instruments are tuning in, till they come together in that ultimate play, getting goosebumps, more likely in this case, rising hairs…

    ‘Horripilation was compounded from the Latin “horrere”, to stand on end + “pilus”, hair = hair standing on end. (If you think “horripilation” sound horrible, you’re right. The word “horrible” also came from the Latin “horrere” and referred to something that was so awfully dreadfully frightful that it made your hair stand on end!)’

    December 17, 2015 at 6:07 am #29200
    rideforever
    Participant

    Up until this point all evolution on Earth and of man, and even of computers, has been subconscious meaning it pretty much happens on its own. At this point this has resulted in a certain number of species with man “at the top” and technologies.

    Man’s actions are almost completely subconscious. Mating, work, pleasure, pain, technology, thinking … it actually almost all happens on its own.

    (although of course each man from the lowest to the highest thinks he has free will and consciousness, to the point where almost nobody even questions it – amazing to see)

    And so what will happen if the subconscious evolution continues … well not much really. We think that one day something “amazing” will happen. Well it already has. Anyone from 2000 years ago seeing this world would automatically assume all problems had been solved and we live in an era of people and love. But we don’t.

    In 10,000 years time (assuming man is still existing) it will be the same thing. More technology more automatic subconscious development.

    The Conscious

    To be conscious is quite different. No amount of subconscious development is going to result in consciousness because that is not what consciousness means. Consciousness is not more subconsciousness.

    Consciousness is something very sensitive and fragile that each being must do for himself, he for the first time must start existing, little by little, step by step he must wake up. Yes his being has existed for a long time subconsciously … but so what. It was all automatic.

    Now for the first time he must nurture himself into consciousness, a very sensitive thing. Like giving birth again to a being who is for the first time awake.

    This is why great masters sit quietly year after year, slowly slowly germinating the seed of their own wakefulness, truly a miraculous event.

    It is not a social event. It is not a subconscious event.

    It is for this reason that there will never be a singularity socially. For yourself, if you choose it is available if you are willing to sit patiently and quietly and nurture your consciousness into existence, if for the first time you are ready to be awake.

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