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  • This topic has 12 replies, 7 voices, and was last updated 17 years, 9 months ago by Alexander Alexis.
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  • August 20, 2007 at 12:35 pm #23726
    .freeform.
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    So Jason said he’d look into creative uses of toning and sound and instruments, and I thought it would be good to have a thread with people sharing experiences and ideas about the use of sound for cultivation or exploration.

    As I do with any such research I start by looking at other people that have researched the field before me – I found some cool stuff!

    One guy I found is called Fabien Maman – a French guy into qi gong, aikido, acupuncture and sound – he does acupuncture using tuning forks. he has an organization called Tama Do – on the website there is a huge bagua instrument that I’d love to hear: http://tama-do.com/product/bagua.html

    Jill Purce does cool Tibetan and Mongolian overtone chanting.

    Stewart Pearce I’m quite excited about – a fellow Londoner he’s the head voice coach of the famous Globe Theatre – everyone is raving about him in the performing arts scene. He also has an understanding of the lifeforce and talks about the voice in a very esoteric, spiritual way. Have you noticed how anyone at the top of their field always seem to suggest that that field will lead to spiritual liberation (from artists and musicians to sportsmen, drivers, sharp shooters, even sales people and managers) – this is something I look for in people I want to learn from – I’d be shortchanging myself if I was looking for anything less. http://www.thealchemyofvoice.com/

    Anyway – do share!

    thanks

    August 20, 2007 at 3:48 pm #23727
    Steven
    Moderator

    When I was taking the Iron Shirt class at Heavenly Mountain this
    summer, there was a guy in the class (Peter?) that did this
    acupuncture with tuning forks that you mentioned.

    I think that sound can be a powerful tool.
    The Six Healing Sounds show up right at the beginning of the
    Healing Tao system.

    When I was taking the Mantak Chia course this summer, he
    had us practicing chanting the 8 trigrams a few times, and
    he said that the purpose in doing it was that this
    particular chanting was “the song of the DNA”. He said
    that when you do the chanting, it activates the DNA and
    they get together and make love.

    Fascinating stuff!

    Steve

    August 20, 2007 at 8:54 pm #23729
    matblack
    Participant

    My main practice, taidao, involves using sounds

    The sounds are based on ancient fengshui understanding of universal frequency cycles.

    The individual sounds are determined by your DOB and gender and correspond with the universal vibration at the time you were born. That frequency being the optimum energetic pattern that your spirit chose to be born during.

    I forget how many different sounds/phases there are, but it’s roughly equivalent to the chinese yearly cycle (i think)

    my experience of reciting the sounds (along with certain breathing methods) is very powerful, it’s like being in the womb of the universe again. it’s very nourishing, clarifying, energising and harmonising.
    Master Feng likens it to the anti-virus scan that you do on your computer. As the sounds travel through your body, they correct and harmonise any distortions, as well as increase the qi at the same time.

    More advanced practice uses another sound based on 8(male) 7(female) yearly cycles to awaken the shen.
    The next level is to repelnish and generate the jing.

    August 21, 2007 at 4:02 am #23731
    Alexander Alexis
    Participant

    I sing. I have found that proper vocal technique (“bel canto”) connects the above and the below in me far more potently than years and years of trying to chant my way to nirvana did. “The stomach loves to sing” say the Daoists.

    Few things have cleared out stuck tension, trauma, worry and pain like singing and it has made the inner sound of meditation clearer.

    A

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    August 21, 2007 at 10:11 am #23733
    Nnonnth
    Participant

    I think I might have to read RJ Stewart’s book on Hermetic music sometime, seeing as how he’s Michael’s fave western mage and a great musician to boot. Although he writes dry. j

    August 22, 2007 at 4:09 am #23735
    matblack
    Participant

    … to mention that the sounds also seal the aura among other things

    August 22, 2007 at 10:32 am #23737
    Nnonnth
    Participant

    … those ringing tones in the ears. Does anyone else get them when meditating? Sometimes in one ear, sometimes in another, different pitches but mostly very high, and seem connected to dissolving blocks in certain areas. People following Robert Bruce’s energy system talk about them alot, but I don’t remember anyone here mentioning them. I get them alot and I really welcome them. Bruce reckons they are some form of clairaudience. j

    August 22, 2007 at 12:38 pm #23739
    .freeform.
    Participant

    yup I started getting the ringing about a year and a half ago – only one tone I can discern – it’s always there in the background, I can tune in and become conscious – I only percieve one tone (yes very high pitch) and not in any specific ear (it’s kind of in the middle of the head) I can sometimes expand it through my whole body.

    No idea what it is – I tried to use a tone generator and find the exact pitch, but no luck – it’s not quite ‘sound’ but i can hear it – if that makes sense… or I could just be going deaf from listening to far too much squarepusher…

    August 22, 2007 at 2:30 pm #23741
    voice
    Participant

    Winn has commented that Early Heaven (half-way between the Primordial and the Later Heaven of our 3D world) is a zone of pure forms and pure tones. Perhaps you two are tapping into that. I’ve only had tones a couple of times, and they were sublime like the ocean.

    August 22, 2007 at 2:59 pm #23743
    Nnonnth
    Participant

    But I’m surprised you only get the one tone, is that like what emerges from the background hiss of your ears? Sometimes I hear a single tone in there but I can’t get it to emerge at will. On the other hand I get masses of different tones that don’t seem to come from anywhere in particular, and sometimes real low ones that literally vibrate my skull! 🙂 Feels weird to tell someone about that. j

    August 22, 2007 at 7:50 pm #23745
    .freeform.
    Participant

    Interesting about the pure tones and pure forms (geometry?)

    I remember reading somewhere that Tibetans see geometric mandalas as sound/tones frozen. I remember also seeing how playing tones aimed at a container of water causes these geometric (3d) shapes (that change completely depending on the pitch).

    I think it was also on here that someone posted a youtube video that showed a plastic/metal surface placed on top of a speaker, they pour a bag of sugar onto it and then they would play a tone and all the sugar would move into a geometric configuration – the pattern would change completely depending on the tone.

    I find this facinating – sound seems to be yin and geometry seems to be yang, but they both point to the same thing.

    It’s also interesting that mathematics in China was based on sound – they would have a standard thickness of string – and then pluck it – the note it made would correspond to its length. They also made standard thickness bells, and the tone would correspond with the volume the bell could contain etc… Western mathematics was based on geometry…

    Jason – yeah only one tone – I thought it’s something to do with my core channel (?) – I first started getting it after taking an external alchemical elixir… It’s not neccessarily at will, but it does feel like it’s always there, and if I’m still enough I can focus in on it. I have quite good hearing, so it’s rare that I’m ever in silence (I can often hear if my muted tv is on from another room) – but I get confused and dissoriented with too many sounds…

    August 22, 2007 at 10:03 pm #23747
    shabd
    Participant

    what do you think of this??
    shabd

    john diamond on digitalized music

    August 23, 2007 at 3:35 pm #23749
    Alexander Alexis
    Participant

    After listening to and studying a lot of digital classical and opera and related “high art” music, I do not find such conclusive evidence in my experience. I wonder often if people effect the results of their testing and observations based on what they want to or expect to find. Quantum thought seems to confirm this.

    My head wants to believe that old style recording is more pure and healthy but I know I am positively moved and worked on by CD music. It could be that what we think when we listen, how we use our field, radically alters what can happen in things like this.

    Good question, Shabd. Thanks.

    A

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