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April 26, 2014 at 11:37 am #42333qtfaceParticipant
USA news site tell this story differently, I prefer this one. Do you guys have ET help?
Russian Sukhoi Su -24 with the newest jamming complex paralyzed in the Black Sea the most modern American combat management system “Aegis” installed on the destroyer “USS Donald Cook”. Pavel Zolotarev, Deputy Director, Institute of USA and Canada, shares details about this version which is being actively discussed in the Russian media and by bloggers.
US destroyer “Donald Cook” with cruise missiles “Tomahawk” entered the neutral waters of the Black Sea on April 10. The purpose was a demonstration of force and intimidation in connection with the position of Russia in Ukraine and Crimea. The appearance of American warships in these waters is in contradiction of the Montreux Convention about the nature and duration of stay in the Black Sea by the military ships of countries not washed by this sea.
In response, Russia sent an unarmed bomber Su- 24 to fly around the U.S. destroyer. However, experts say that this plane was equipped with the latest Russian electronic warfare complex. According to this version, “Aegis” spotted from afar the approaching aircraft, and sounded alarm. Everything went normally, American radars calculated the speed of the approaching target. And suddenly all the screens went blank. “Aegis” was not working any more, and the rockets could not get target information. Meanwhile, Su-24 flew over the deck of the destroyer, did battle turn and simulated missile attack on the target. Then it turned and repeated the maneuver. And did so 12 times.
Apparently, all efforts to revive the “Aegis” and provide target information for the defence failed. Russia’s reaction to military pressure from the United States was profoundly calm, feels the Russian political scientist Pavel Zolotarev:
The demonstration was original enough. A bomber without any weapons, but having onboard equipment for jamming enemy radar, worked against a destroyer equipped with “Aegis”, the most modern system of air and missile defence. But this system of mobile location, in this case the ship, has a significant drawback. That is, the target tracking capabilities. They work well when there is a number of these ships which can coordinate with each other somehow. In this case there was just one destroyer. And, apparently, the algorithm of the radar in the “Aegis system on the destroyer did not load under the influence of jamming by the Su-24. It was therefore not only a nervous reaction to the fact of flying around by the Russin bomber which was common practice during the Cold War. The reaction of the Americans was due to the fact that most modern system, especially its informative or radar part, did not work adequately. Therefore, there was such a nervous reaction to the whole episode.
After the incident, the foreign media reported that “Donald Cook” was rushed into a port in Romania. There all the 27 members of the crew filed a letter of resignation. It seems that all 27 people have written that they are not going to risk their lives. This is indirectly confirmed by the Pentagon statement according to which the action demoralized the crew of the American ship.
What are the possible consequences of the incident provoked by the U.S. in the Black Sea? Pavel Zolotarev forecasts:
I think that Americans are somehow going to reflect on improving the system Aegis”. This is a purely military aspect. In political terms, there is hardly any likelihood of demonstrative steps by either side. That is enough. Meanwhile, for Americans it is a very unpleasant moment. In general, the missile defence system which they deploy involves huge expenditures. They have to prove each time that it is necessary to allocate funds from the budget. At the same time, the ground component of the ABM was tested in ideal conditions and showed a low efficiency. This fact is concealed by the Pentagon. The most modern component, the sea-based system “Aegis” also showed its shortcomings in the present case.
The system with which the Russian Su-24 shocked the American destroyer “Donald Cook” has the code name “Khibiny”. This is the name of the mountain range on the Kola Peninsula in the Arctic Circle. “Khibiny” is the newest complex for radioelectronic jamming of the enemy. They will be installed on all the advanced Russian planes .
Recently the complex has undergone regular testing exercises on the ground in Buryatia. Apparently, the tests which were conducted under conditions as close to real as possible, were successful.
Read more: http://indian.ruvr.ru/2014_04_21/Russian-Su-24-scores-off-against-the-American-USS-Donald-Cook-5786/April 28, 2014 at 2:37 pm #42334STALKER2002Participantyes. I have seen this story recently
May 5, 2014 at 5:27 am #42336STALKER2002ParticipantHow the thugs killed Odessa inhabitants in the Trade Unions House – the details of bloody scenario.
May 5, 2014 at 5:28 am #42338STALKER2002ParticipantHow the thugs killed Odessa inhabitants in the Trade Unions House – the details of bloody scenario.
May 5, 2014 at 9:50 pm #42340qtfaceParticipantYes I have read the story but not seen these pictures nor the large number of people murdered (US stories only mention 30). Mercenaries or the Mossad (I say it is Mossad most likely)do this kind of work, not neighbor-against-neighbor with political disagreements. If these pictures could go widespread in US there would be demonstrations in the streets protesting any involvement of US in support of Ukraine but of course this is not shown on US 6’clock news.
May 7, 2014 at 1:10 pm #42342STALKER2002Participanthttp://www.eutimes.net/2014/05/us-refuses-to-take-back-13-dead-cia-spies-killed-in-ukraine/
US Refuses To Take Back 13 Dead CIA Spies Killed In Ukraine//
A stunning Ministry of Defense (MoD) report circulating in the Kremlin today states that the United States has refused to repatriate the bodies of 13 Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) military operatives killed when their helicopters were shot down by pro-federalist forces on the outskirts of Slavyansk, eastern Ukraine this past Friday.
According to this report, on 2 May the Anti-Aircraft Artillery Battalion of the 25th Separate Dnipropetrovsk Airborne Brigade of the Ukrainian Army, which had defected to the side of the pro-federalists in April, fired upon and downed two Russian made Mil Mi-17 transport helicopters belonging to the Ukrainian Air Force that had been attempting to land CIA military command and control operatives into the battle zone of Slavyansk.
Of the 14 CIA military operatives aboard the two Mil Mi-17s, this report continues, only one survived, who was initially identified as Captain Savuilov [photo 2nd right], but whose subsequent questioning revealed him to be an employee of the American mercenary company named Greystone Ltd.May 7, 2014 at 1:29 pm #42344STALKER2002Participanthttp://www.eutimes.net/2014/05/us-refuses-to-take-back-13-dead-cia-spies-killed-in-ukraine
A stunning Ministry of Defense (MoD) report circulating in the Kremlin today states that the United States has refused to repatriate the bodies of 13 Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) military operatives killed when their helicopters were shot down by pro-federalist forces on the outskirts of Slavyansk, eastern Ukraine this past Friday.
According to this report, on 2 May the Anti-Aircraft Artillery Battalion of the 25th Separate Dnipropetrovsk Airborne Brigade of the Ukrainian Army, which had defected to the side of the pro-federalists in April, fired upon and downed two Russian made Mil Mi-17 transport helicopters belonging to the Ukrainian Air Force that had been attempting to land CIA military command and control operatives into the battle zone of Slavyansk.
Of the 14 CIA military operatives aboard the two Mil Mi-17s, this report continues, only one survived, who was initially identified as Captain Savuilov [photo 2nd right], but whose subsequent questioning revealed him to be an employee of the American mercenary company named Greystone Ltd.Greystone Ltd, this report notes, states that it provides the skilled professionals and program management services necessary to deliver rotary wing, protective security and training solutions to customers in challenging environments, but had previously been warned about by Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov who stated last month: There were reports, as you know, that some several hundreds of [agents from] the private military organization called Greystone were detected to arrive in Ukraine from the US. Wed like this also to be investigated.
Sadly, this report says, this CIA/Greystone survivor of these two Mil Mi-17s being shot down, like his 13 dead compatriots, was, likewise, abandoned, and as reported from the scene by a member of the self-defense forces in Slavyansk who stated: His troops abandoned him. I thought they would take him away in another helicopter, but they just took his pistol from him and flew away.
As to the CIA directing the war operations against pro-federalist forces in eastern Ukraine, this MoD report says, their remains no doubt as a representative from Slavyansks self-defense movement reporting from the battle zone said, When using radios, activists have heard English several times on the air this is direct proof of the participation of foreigners in the retaliatory operations against Slavyansk.
Germanys highly influential Bild Newspaper this morning further confirmed the CIA operating in Ukraine, this report says, noting that in the middle of last month, CIA Director John Brennan arrived in Kiev on a top secret visit that Washington initially denied. The following day, Verkhovna Rada interim Speaker Alexander Turchynov announced a large-scale counter-terrorist operation in Ukraines southeast.
As to the CIAs strategy in eastern Ukraine, MoD analysts in this report note, is to instill complete terror among the peoples in this region as they and their Greystone counterparts are deploying feared Right Sector neo-Nazi forces into the battle zone that pro-federalist forces say are acting strangely, as if they are under the influence of some drugs.
To the success of this CIA strategy, this report says, one need look no further then the events in Odessa this past Friday when Right Sector forces firebombed the House of Trade Unions killing dozens of pro-federalist activists, but which the Western media is still refusing to allow their people to know the full and brutal knowledge of.
And with Vasyl Krutov, head of the Ukraines anti-terrorist center, stating earlier today that the increased fighting in the east did not appear to be short-term, but essentially a war, this report warns, it remains a fact that the CIA will order more atrocities to occur as the Obama regime has done in all of their other war zones.
And as to the Obama regimes repeated lies that Russia is directing the pro-federalist forces in eastern Ukraine, this report concludes, even the New York Times was forced to admit yesterday that resistance fighters defending Slavyansk in eastern Ukraine are armed with weapons identical to those in the hands of Ukrainian soldiers, and they are all citizens of Ukraine.
And as quoted from the New York Times reporter, who spent a week at the headquarter of the 12th Company, part of Peoples Militia of the Donetsk Peoples Republic: Much of their stock was identical to the weapons seen in the hands of Ukrainian soldiers and Interior Ministry special forces troops at government positions outside the city. These included 9-millimeter Makarov pistols, Kalashnikov assault rifles and a few Dragunov sniper rifles, RPK light machine guns and portable antitank rockets, including some with production stamps from the 1980s and early 1990s. Many of the weapons show signs of long service. Militia members said their weapons had either been taken from seized police buildings and a column of captured Ukrainian armored vehicles, or bought from corrupt Ukrainian soldiers.
With forces in the east of Ukraine fighting for the federalization of the country having regained control over the cities and townships of Konstantinovka, Slavyansk, Andreyevka, and Kramatorsk today it, and sadly, remains a fact that more Americans will die in this conflict but who will claim their bodies still remains a mystery. -
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