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Today I achived a gole to stand in standing three for 100 breaths. Have been practisisning the iron shirt more diligently this year. Those iron shirt practises have been the most difficult of the introductory exercises for me.
After a period of about three weeks with daily practises I finally reached 100 breaths. Starting of from about 30. The dificult part was pain in the shoulders. I practise it in the following way.
First I check the points in the feet and realy try to feel how I stand and feel into the points. About simultaneosly I check the owerall standing pattern, not leaning back, shoulders down, sacrum in, neck a bit liftetn toghether with the chest actually to have the neck align in the same time as the sacrum in. Relaxing the stomach. And legs and foots rotated out a bit and screwed into the ground.
When I think I stand alrigth in those aboce aspects, I do breathing with zips into the navel, ming men, both sides of the waist, sexual center, sacrum, both sides of the hip and then rotate in the hip.
Then I lift my arms and start breathing and counting. Check the aligments again. And new for me a bit inspired by “opening the energy gates of the your body” by Bruce Frantzis: Relaxing the top of my head and going down to eyes and chin and the whole face, checking the aligment in the neck and the owerall aligment in the body, and so on going down the body and relaxing and aligning, from time to time I do with parallell focusing adjustments to other body parts that need to be relaxed or more aligned. Following down thrue the body in a slow rate and in the end going down with my focus down into the earth. After a while starting from the top again and going thruee the body.
About the third time my sholder started to pain after about 50 breaths. I relaxed and did sink the shoulders more and the pain moved from the deltoideus to the muscles closer to the neck. Going into the pain and feelings that arrised and trying to sink shoulders more and following the changes in the plases where the pain starts did help me out this time. And I increased from earlier max 70 breaths to the 100. Actully another reason I achived it was that I held my arms not as fare out as my universal tao intructor had teached me.
A part of this is starting to love this iron shirt exercises that I not realy have liked before. A happy day.
Will now continue with other iron shirt exercises that I have left in the book “taoist yoga and sexual energy” in which I want to be able to do all the exercises standing, or a least the ones that are ment to also be exerciseised standing.
S D
Very inspiring to see progress and how closely you are attuning to the body. Also this practice is the most challenging for me. There is something that is happening as I practice Tao Yin and do the lumbar exercises and then the tendon stretching while seated that teaches me a lot.
When I do stand I can find the tendon connection more easily. I agree, it is the shoulders that cry out. I am curious about this. I personally link it to the reality that when I do sink into the form and the pain passes I am stronger and more vulnerable.
What I mean is these pains appear as messages of protection warning me not to open to much and so my strategy has become to not force this. Not force false strength on myself. But do as you are doing, constantly scanning and listening.
Congrats on reaching your personal goal! barry~
>>>>>>>>>Very inspiring to see progress and how closely you are attuning to the body. Also this practice is the most challenging for me. There is something that is happening as I practice Tao Yin and do the lumbar exercises and then the tendon stretching while seated that teaches me a lot.>>>>>>>>>>>
Interestingly enough I am more into Tao Yin myself. Well Tao yin is also the only part of the system that I have a teacher in, for the moment. For the moment though I practise only set 1 from Mantak Chias tao yin book. But I realy enjoy this tao yin exercises and have had some progress with them to. Today I realy feel the energy in for instance the spine and are able to adjust the exercises by tuning into the energies. For example adjust how I raise the back and how I use the muscles when raising, and notice when I do it more right beacase then I feel quite much more nice energy in the lumbar region. Interesting to note that the tendon exercises help you with the iron shirt and to notice how different parts of the system interacts and complement eachoter.
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I see the pain also as an opening to emotions that are or have been dismised earlier. Actually a feeling of not going into it and to stop imidiately arises. It is not obvious how to deal with this. But my comclusion for the moment is that by repetition of the exercise day by day you learn succesively how close you can go and succecively you take contact with the pain and pass thrue the protection. It seemed to me that was the thing that happened to me the other day, that I did pass some of the protection and after that the stand was actually much easier and the pain was not as bad, but still there, I was more ready to look into it and deal with it.
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Congrats on reaching your personal goal! barry~
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><Thanks. Well I actually feel that I Should continue standing in the three stance for 100 breaths more days in a row, but for the moment I anyway choose to go further into the other iron shirt exercises I have decided to do from the book. Peharps both ways works.
Anyway it is nice that I have reached that goal, but more important is a feeling that I start to like the iron shirt exercises. Hopefully thats deepens to.
Ty for your responce 🙂
SD
>>>>>>>>>Very inspiring to see progress and how closely you are attuning to the body. Also this practice is the most challenging for me. There is something that is happening as I practice Tao Yin and do the lumbar exercises and then the tendon stretching while seated that teaches me a lot.>>>>>>>>>>>
Interestingly enough I am more into Tao Yin myself. Well Tao yin is also the only part of the system that I have a teacher in, for the moment. For the moment though I practise only set 1 from Mantak Chias tao yin book. But I realy enjoy this tao yin exercises and have had some progress with them to. Today I realy feel the energy in for instance the spine and are able to adjust the exercises by tuning into the energies. For example adjust how I raise the back and how I use the muscles when raising, and notice when I do it more right beacase then I feel quite much more nice energy in the lumbar region. Interesting to note that the tendon exercises help you with the iron shirt and to notice how different parts of the system interacts and complement eachoter.
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I see the pain also as an opening to emotions that are or have been dismised earlier. Actually a feeling of not going into it and to stop imidiately arises. It is not obvious how to deal with this. But my comclusion for the moment is that by repetition of the exercise day by day you learn succesively how close you can go and succecively you take contact with the pain and pass thrue the protection. It seemed to me that was the thing that happened to me the other day, that I did pass some of the protection and after that the stand was actually much easier and the pain was not as bad, but still there, I was more ready to look into it and deal with it.
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Congrats on reaching your personal goal! barry~
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><Thanks. Well I actually feel that I Should continue standing in the three stance for 100 breaths more days in a row, but for the moment I anyway choose to go further into the other iron shirt exercises I have decided to do from the book. Peharps both ways works.
Anyway it is nice that I have reached that goal, but more important is a feeling that I start to like the iron shirt exercises. Hopefully thats deepens to.
Ty for your responce 🙂
SD
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Did you bother to check Anatomy of Hatha Yoga (by H. David Coulter)? I suggested it because it belongs to those very few yoga/qigong books which are really at the level of textbook.
If you mainly get the Iron Shirt type of practices from Mantak Chia’s book it’s probably good to be careful. I personally think that one doesn’t need any teacher but it also means that progress what one makes is quite slow in the beginning beside possible dangers.
Coulter’s book is in my opinion not only good for somebody interested about hatha yoga, but for somebody who seriously is doin’ physical exercise, especially stretching as well as manipulating breathing.
Also if one starts to experiment with ‘packin process breathing’ it would be better to have full control of one’s dietary habits. So eating and drinking only healthy things (and also as little as possible) so that these don’t start to disturb one’s metabolism and general well-being.
I myself being clearly interested about ‘ninja approach’ I had to develop practice curriculum for myself taking things from very different directions; so whole gamut from Tom Brown, Jr. from survival to tracking, parkour, some jason bourne like martial arts training etc. and then combining it with yoga /qigong.
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“””””””Did you bother to check Anatomy of Hatha Yoga (by H. David Coulter)? I suggested it because it belongs to those very few yoga/qigong books which are really at the level of textbook.””””””
Thx for reminding me. Haven’t bought it yet, but I migth do. In fact I read so litle for the moment beacase I have so much else to do, so I not buy much books.
“”””””If you mainly get the Iron Shirt type of practices from Mantak Chia’s book it’s probably good to be careful. I personally think that one doesn’t need any teacher but it also means that progress what one makes is quite slow in the beginning beside possible dangers.
Coulter’s book is in my opinion not only good for somebody interested about hatha yoga, but for somebody who seriously is doin’ physical exercise, especially stretching as well as manipulating breathing. “”””””””””””””””””
I have been doing the firs set of tao yin from Mantak Chias book. This set is almost enterily about the psoas muscle. I see the psoas as one of my problem areas and possibly also strongly involved in my health problem. Funnily enough after doing this exercises almost on a daily basis for about three weeks my foots have changes theire aligment and have now toes pointing out to the sides when I walk. I see it as something in my hip is starting to resolve and if it continues I hope the toes goes back in. I never have had this problem with my foots before but I am born flatfotted and don’t know if that has something to do with it?
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Also if one starts to experiment with ‘packin process breathing’ it would be better to have full control of one’s dietary habits. So eating and drinking only healthy things (and also as little as possible) so that these don’t start to disturb one’s metabolism and general well-being. “””””””Ok, didn’t know that. But are eating quite healthy beacase that is a part of my new health care program that I am following.
SD
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