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May 26, 2005 at 1:22 pm #5899Michael WinnKeymaster
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1. Essay on Dreaming and Tao and its relation to our dark side.
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Once upon a time, Chuang Tzu dreamed that he was a butterfly, a butterfly
fluttering about, enjoying itself. It did not know that it was Chuang Tzu.
Suddenly he awoke with a start and he was Chuang Tzu again. But he did not
know whether he was Chuang Tzu who had dreamed that he was a butterfly, or whether he was a butterfly dreaming that he was Chuang Tzu. Between Chuang Tzu and the butterfly there must be some distinction. This is what is called the transformation of things.
– Readings from World Scriptures trans. by Andrew WilsonThe question of whether our life is being dreamed for us by some Cosmic
Dreamer or we are dreaming our body and our life has long been discussed in
spiritual circles. For most people, the dream world is considered unreal, a
byproduct or hallucination of some physical brain process. Its essentially
the modern scientific world view – only the physical brain/world is defined
as real. Its really just a statement that because the scientists can
manipulate it, matter is real to them.
But what would happen if you could intervene in the dream world, and
express your will in the nether world? What if you could shape it as
definitively as the multitudes of choices in daily life shape your physical
world experience? This is what spiritual scientists/alchemical meditators
do: they lawfully manipulate the life force to achieve greater harmony and
balance. This is a very different process than dream interpretation, of
which there are many schools and systems that analyze dreams after the dream is over.
Taoist dream practice is about present moment interaction with the
forces that control the dream plane. Since those forces appear to gain
control while we are sleeping, they are traditionally called the forces of
the night side or the dark side. Does this make the dark side evil?
Well, ask yourself is sleep evil? It is, after all, the realm labeled
by modern psychology as the subconscious in which many evil things might
appear to happen you might find yourself killing or being killed. But if
you love to sleep, and consider yourself a good (at least non-evil) person,
what does it mean to be daily refreshed by the dark side?
Is the violence and sexuality that many experience in dreams a form of
necessary evil, needed to balance out what is repressed by daylight? Have
we made some kind of unconscious pact with the Devil s/he will recharge
our body batteries to let us live on earth another day, but only if we
surrender our consciousness to Him/Her for eight hours?
Most people never consider these questions deeply, because they are
afraid of things that go bump in the dark. They dont want to know the
answer, they only want to wake up refreshed, and pretend that the waking
self is the only real self. The truth underlying this denial of the dark
side is that the need to sleep to go unconscious – is the single most
powerful thought form on planet earth! Stronger than sex, hunger, religion,
political power, etc.
This may be why Taoist dream practice is considered to be the most
advanced form of meditation its very easy to fall asleep during the
process, to succumb to the thought form that I must go unconscious now.
Meditators of all traditions commonly think of their practice as a way of
merging with their spiritual self or the Divine Spirit. But think about it
does Spirit go to sleep?
If you think Divine Spirit, the All-that-Is or total all-embracing
consciousness of Nature also needs to sleeps eight hours a night, and that
like humans, it is subject to cycles of night and day, then you need not
bother studying Taoist dream practice. Likewise, if you believe that there
is a Light Side that will someday vanquish the Dark Side, that whatever
refreshes us during sleep needs to be killed, then you should not explore
Tao Dream Practice.
Only if you are willing to explore and embrace the dark side as an
equally important aspect of the whole should you attempt to manage your
dream state. Tao Dream Practice is a method for managing sleep and the dark
side as if it were an equally ordinary part of life as the day/Light side.
Because it effectively doubles the amount of time available to cultivate
yourself, it is considered a shortcut. But the extra time available is the
least important aspect.
The truth is, everyone has dreams about what they want in their life, and
its ordinary to hope that they can manifest these dreams. This Day
dreaming-manifesting process is no different in principle than the night
dreaming-manifesting process. But there is a difference in effectiveness
at night, there is no resistance from the dark side, because you have become
the dark side.
So you can manifest what you truly need for spiritual development without
struggle. Thats the shortcut: no resistance. That is why we love to sleep
its the only time we are living without resistance. So sleep is an
unconscious form of wu wei –
living without coercive action, without trying to push the river. So during
sleep, we can get profound answers to what we need from life. The genies
of the night side can become our genius by day. Many of mankinds
greatest breakthroughs have thus been dreamed at night by artists,
inventors, scientists or others struggling with seemingly unsolvable
problems.
I used to run a Night School in the dream plane, where all my friends
would come and I would teach them to fly. It was just a gift I had. Flying
dreams are one of the most tangible signs of achieving conscious state of
non-resistance. In the astral plane its easy to defy gravity, but its still
quite a thrill if your mind is awake, simultaneously aware of the force of
gravity pulling on your physical body laying on the bed fast asleep.
Anyway, I finally closed that Night School, and decided it was time to
open a Day School for living without resistance. That is really what all my
ten qigong (chi kung) and inner alchemy Tao Home Study courses are about. So eventually conscious movement, breath, and inner mind meditation cultivates an energy body that is equally comfortable functioning in the Day or Night modes.
What happens when you manage dream states is ultimately no different
than managing what we call physical states and their underlying energetic
structure. They are both part of the same chi field. But if you cant come
to my Day School live or on audio – you can still contact me or anyone
else who is willing to assist you at night. But it helps to know the
method.Dreaming the Inner Smile with you,
Michael Winn
Who takes Heaven as his ancestor, Virtue as his home,
the Tao as his door, and who becomes change is a Sage. Chuang Tzu, Inner Chapters
“The Tao is very close, but everyone looks far away.
Life is very simple, but everyone seeks difficulty.”— Taoist Sage, 200 B.C
May 31, 2005 at 9:39 am #5900DylanParticipantNow you have brought up the subject of astral travel, I feel I finally have the courage to ask you some pressing questions (for me anyway).
First of all could you elaborate a little on what the astral plane is?
Is it created by humans?
Is it a psychic dumping ground? – full of negative thought forms and predators? Is it safe to roam around in or is some kind of protection required?
Or did it exist prior to humanity – a sort of holographic spritual template for the physical world?
What is its relation to the shamanic world map – upper world, middleworld and underworld? or for that matter the taoist viewpoint – is it related to early heaven in some way?
I ask these questions because recently I came across a website run by a fellow called Steve Gamble (http://www.equilibra.uk.com)who claims that the astral plane is a dangerous, illusory, external realm full of imbalanced predatory thought forms created by humans over millenia and that it leads us away from the spritual light within.
It seems to me that is viewpoint is very gnostic ie anti-matter paranoia, the external world is a dangerous place etc but at the same time he seems to make valid points and comes across as sincere.
I feel his viewpoint is incomplete in someway but I can’t put my finger on it.
I have never attempted astral travel but if you could set the record straight on these points I would be very grateful and less afraid of my subconcious dreaming side!
SincerelyDylan
June 3, 2005 at 4:33 am #5902Michael WinnKeymaster> First of all could you elaborate a little on what the astral plane is?
energy plane closest to physical> Is it created by humans?
no> Is it a psychic dumping ground? – full of negative thought forms and
> predators?
yesIs it safe to roam around in or is some kind of protection
> required?is it safe to roam around in the physical plane?
Depends on your awareness and navigation skillls.
If you are not grounded you can get killed crossing the road in front of your house.> Or did it exist prior to humanity – a sort of holographic spritual template
> for the physical world?you used to have an androgynous (male-female ) body and lived there happily.
> What is its relation to the shamanic world map – upper world, middleworld
> and underworld? or for that matter the taoist viewpoint – is it related to
> early heaven in some way?High astral, physical, low astral is one model. there are many, depending on who you ask and what the words mean.
> I ask these questions because recently I came across a website run by a
> fellow called Steve Gamble (http://www.equilibra.uk.com)who claims that the
> astral plane is a dangerous, illusory, external realm full of imbalanced
> predatory thought forms created by humans over millenia and that it leads us
> away from the spritual light within.All true. But the astral is not just outside your body. Its inside you, between you and that spiritual light. So no getting around it – your ancestors live there, and many other forms that shape you physically. There is no escaping the whole, the spiritual light is not to be escaped to, but used to harmonize the polluted astral field.
You didn’t come all the way to earth just to escape from it.
Think about the real purpose of spiritual work.> It seems to me that is viewpoint is very gnostic ie anti-matter paranoia,
> the external world is a dangerous place etc but at the same time he seems to
> make valid points and comes across as sincere.
> I feel his viewpoint is incomplete in someway but I can’t put my finger on
> it.you have nothing to fear but fear itself. If you can’t overcome your fear of the low astral, then you aren’t ready for the high astral or to return to source within.
> I have never attempted astral travel but if you could set the record
> straight on these points I would be very grateful and less afraid of my
> subconcious dreaming side!You don’t need to engage in astral travel to do dream practice.
michael
June 7, 2005 at 10:01 am #5904DylanParticipantThankyou
Your advice feels honest and wholesome. You’ve confirmed what I have always felt deep down, that there is no real “copping out” spiritually or physically.
I didn’t mean to sound like a timid mouse, I’m not. Its just that I have a natural mistrust of the unknown.Dylan
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