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Harry,
h>>I still wonder: Chi Kung is said to heal even severe diseases and that by practicing to a high level… so nothing should have happened to them…? >
t>The sort of level that you are talking about is extremely rare or non-existent. In any case, it is way off the dial from what might be considered normal progress and reasonable expectations.< h> Well. By saying this you would say that White Cloud wasn’t very achieved… >>
Not at all.
My point is that you are using an unrealisticly simplistic standard.Sort of like taking up tennis lessons, and figuring that if you don’t win Wimbleton as a result then your teacher is no good and you haven’t really learned anything at all, that the whole thing is a farce.
Its not that nobody ever wins Wimbleton. People do.
But there are plenty of people with very high level of achievement in tennis, who never win it, and who would still wipe you or i off the court.What is a realistic approach to practice (if you actually want to take up practical application for yourself, rather than just talk about theory), is to look for little improvements from where you are. Those gradually add up over time.. Its cultivation. Its slow, and there is plenty of ground to cover.
People tend to site extraordinary cases as sales pitches, or as sharing sincere inspiration – but, really, its a long slow process.
Trunk
I know I am not very literate in a lot of the alchemy and taoist practices, but you are the first one I have read tells it exactly as I see it. Seems to me that one’s life can actually be a pawn in the hands of “higher” (stronger) immortals. Nasty game that can be played it is. to take oneself out of the game is the trick, taking oneself out of the game while still abiding by all the rules …. now that is an art.
Sounds like you my dear friend have had some experience also.Rainbows!
I agree that the process is slow and a lot of times painful. We have a silly tendency of hanging onto things – that is the painful part – letting go. Sometimes no matter how many times the frying pan hits us over the head or the tennis racket aces us in the jewels we just can’t let go. And it is the gradual process of learning to do that that builds our structure, our strength. It will either do that or break us, one of the two. And it definately is the journey there that counts not the finality of it all. There are many hidden heros, many compassionate hearts, many winners that never make it to Wimbledon, but they are winners nevertheless. For Wimbledon is just one game …… there are many. Many games of many games. Perhaps baseball is your forte instead, or perhaps knitting, or perhaps swimming, or perhaps couch potatoe root growth. we each have something that is our “game”. The trick is to also realize what it is and grow it. Build it, exercise it, know it, be it. Nothing like learning one’s lessons and just getting right in there to suck it up. To me – I do not know White Cloud, his name is awesome though, and just for even that I give respect. Is he better than who? And why? And really who are we to judge? However it is always wise to give those of time and practise their just dues but that does not mean that there are not others who we can learn from. And that does not mean that others can not learn from us. So do not get caught up in ONE for it is the web that works and as in a web as the spider steps the vibrations are felt throughout. That spider can be any spider. Big, small, … does not matter. To me, One Cloud is his journey and in that his journey deserves respect, just as yours does, mine does and Harry’s does. Right Harry!
Rainbows!!
I’d like to qualify what I said:
Somone comes into the room and he or she is in a really good headspace. At first, this doesn’t have too much of an effect. But that person is really stabilly in that headspace and it starts of have an effect, changing the whole character of the evening perhaps.
There could also be someone there who is really heavy in a negative space, but in the sense that they have to be on top, they need to be top dog in a heavy, dominant sort of way, but also, they might actually be a very skillful person, might have really developed some impressive skills… Now there’s a conflict; even if they don’t say anything, their powerful presences are making waves, are affecting those who aren’t broadcasting as strongly.
However, the collective mood might end up being more powerful than either individual in this hypothetical situation, winning out over both of them, causing them to conform to the current standard mode in the end, especially if neither is aware of the collective dynamic. And of course there can be and is a feedback between the potent individuals and the collective, each affectiing each other.
It would be easy to misconstrue what I’m saying here, to put the cart before the horse; basically, I think just being very straighforward in your practice, very steadily disciplined, paying attention to life moment by moment, without being obsessed with any idea overlong, is the old standby (as you’ve alluded to already); this kind of information is “extra curricular” so to speak, since it makes much more sense if it comes naturally through steady meditation practice.
Simon
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