August 26, 2005 at 2:38 pm #7551
After all the kindness folks here have shown me, I wanted to say thanks to all, and report some good progress already! I’m on my third day of Buteyko breathing, and have improved by 3 seconds already. I don’t know how statistically significant that is, but it sure feels significant to me.
I get excited about progress no matter how small. And I expect a few weeks of this will have some very interesting effects!
I’m also following up on many of the other good suggestions.. just wanted to give a bit of feedback and say thanks again.
KarenAugust 26, 2005 at 4:28 pm #7552
I followed some of the links you put up recently and I think you mentioned using a “zapper”.
What has been your experience of this?
I know, some months or even years ago, Plato recommended such a device and I am intrigued to find out more directly about users of this.
Has it had little effect on your system?
Which device did you/are you using?
Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
CraigAugust 26, 2005 at 5:14 pm #7554
In my experience the Beck units are the best and the Hulda Clark one doesn’t work.
Also, you must be careful with the magnetic pulser because you can hurt yourself with it if you “abuse” it. 🙂August 26, 2005 at 7:45 pm #7556
Interestingly, I don’t think I mentioned the zapper here on this forum, but somehow you made the connection between me and the zapper which was correct :-).
I do use the zapper, but not the Hulda Clark type. I use the one made by Don Croft which is orgonite-enhanced (link below). It uses a lower frequency than the Clark zapper. 15 Hz square wave.
The short answer is: I think the zapper is great for what it does, which may be enough for some people, but usually not enough for those with complex, chronic health issues.
For me, it didn’t do enough, and actually made me feel worse. Some people feel better with it, and some feel better only temporarily. Let me explain how I understand that.
What the zapper did was to remove some of the stressors (parasites, viruses, etc.), but then I was up against deeper energetic blockages that it could not take me past. So in addressing those more superficial levels, it freed up the life force to some extent to begin to tackle a deeper challenge.
That’s actually the way most natural healing treatments have only worked superficially for me. Some level of strain is removed, but then more symptoms may appear, which are just a reflection of the system trying to tackle deeper issues.
For me, Heilkunst and Sequential homeopathy are addressing those deeper issues.
So I think the zapper does have a place in the process; it’s just that often those kinds of things are expected to do more than they can. For me the zapper is a support, although not a primary tool, but has value as a supportive tool.
I hope that helps 🙂August 27, 2005 at 3:50 pm #7558
i’ve been using a clark based zapper for about 4 months, almost daily & im not going to quit using it anytime soon. i’d say if anything it’s been one more door into my body to release traped and frozen qi. if you are sensitve and aware to qi (which you are) you will feel the thing as soon as you touch it. i often guide the current around my body and have unlocked many frozen parts with this. i almost always use lesser kan & li at the same time, a potent combination.
my experice with this device is that it does indeed give a charge to the immune function probably just from the current running thru the upper chest area. take that zap and guide it with your skilled conciusness and you can get a lot of work done.
ive also done clarks kidney and liver clense repeatedly (with need).
i’m not too sure on don croft’s model. what he is doing with the chembusters seems highly irresponsible and i don’t know enough about him.
the model zapper that i have is made by a canadian. the freq is 2500hz rather than the 30,000hz that a lot of zappers use.
zapper linkAugust 29, 2005 at 5:40 pm #7560
Why is the beck unit the best?
Why doesn’t the Hulda Clark unit work? Which version did you use.
If you would care to elaborate I am trying to pick the brains of those who know a bit on the subject, to go along with the reams of data available online.
CraigAugust 30, 2005 at 12:06 am #7562
this whole thing of electro-bio-science is very cool.
another little device that i used recently was the alph-stim 100. it’s a little device made for pain relief. you attach the pads to ear lobes or use probes wherever you need to. i selected the 0.1hz selection with about 500ma of current. yea that’s lot of current and i saw huge flashes of light. very cool!!! i want one. these little devices are only available by precription in the us though. the waveform on this guy is far more articulate than the beck or clark zappers, though still a modified square wave. funny all these devices us some variation on the square wave. they start around 800 bucks.
an even cooler device that i experinced recently was this thing called the ihealth system. it was made famous by the russian space program when cosmonauts were able to climb on thier own power after being in space a long time. this system is made in europe and uses a pc. it is based on tcm and five element theory. (oh too bad they did not use 8 extra) the unit takes “readings” at various points then suggest a treatment. there is a light wand and a sound resonator. there are all sorts of cool graphs & such that work for monkey minds.
a note on the clark or beck or rife devices there is a wide variation on the interpretations on these devices. so best to say the are “based” on each is in order. getting one of each of course would be very cool they are all made for differnt things….. a good clark unit will run $130 a beck blood unit over $500 and a rife maybe 2 grand….
also to give don croft a fair shot i have one of his devices too designed by his wife carol. pendant is absolutly beautiful. i like wearing in though i can not verifiy it’s emi claims. im gonna check it out with a meter soon though i believe this thing is working on some other levels as well and is work checking out. a freind has a qlink and i would not trade for a second.
one for the road….
and if you’ve wanted to do acid recently but weren’t sure you wanted to do that to yourself again check one of these things out it’s called a inner pulse. bianural beats, wild light show….a strange trip fur sure….
happy electro-harmonic purification
mike 🙂August 30, 2005 at 11:22 am #7564
YES on the Harmonic Protector! I feel it has a beneficial energy without measuring anything. I also have Carol’s large orgonite pyramid, and a houseful of other orgonite creations that friends and I have made, and it makes a distinct difference on many levels. People who come into the house are generally more cheerful, too.
I would also recommend the small Med-Best unit from http://www.senergymedicalgroup.com which I acquired based on recommendations from several people I know who got good results with it. It’s $300, as compared to the ~ $800 units. I’m playing with it at the moment, and it’s subtle but definitely feel worth continuing to play with.. whereas I didn’t much like the alpha-stim from the start.
I agree to thumbs down on the Q-Link, although I’ve never seen one in person, but my energy sense said NO. These are of course just my own personal responses, and as always, YMMV.
-KarenAugust 30, 2005 at 12:15 pm #7566
Beck explains everything in his paper. Myself and others have tried them all. Only Beck units delivered results. 🙂August 30, 2005 at 5:55 pm #7568
I guess this is the newly succinct Plato.
Can you at least tell me what kind of results you achieved?
Were you looking to destroy parasites?
Honestly I respect your explorations in this area and am grateful for any time you could put into a response.
CraigAugust 30, 2005 at 7:34 pm #7570
Beck blood electrification unit will kill all yeast and parasites in blood. You will find sugar totally uninteresting unless you dump yeast into your system (drink beer). Yeast will make you crave sugar again. Prepare to shit worms into the toilet and other things. It is a lot of fun. Really, there are some great one page QandA with Beck. He was wrong about the blood electroporation part, but you still can’t drink or use herbs or drugs while doing this so act AS IF. Will cure AIDS and other blood-born bullshit.August 30, 2005 at 11:29 pm #7572
I really really wish you were right. It would be a blessing on the 40 million plus who are dead or dying.
It it worked I think have made a splash as bigger then penicillin. Yeasties are one thing, parasites another microscopically they’re big ‘things’. Virus’s are are cunning almost more idea then matter, like a computer program. They don’t ‘fight’. They assimilate(like the borg).
They’re tougher cookies to defeat. There are a thousand cures on the web, most not worth the non paper they’re written on.
It would certainly be great to be wrong. But when it comes to something as serious and life and death as Aids, Quackery kills, whether mainstream medical or alternative.
MichaelAugust 31, 2005 at 2:42 am #7574
… and how to treat them is the biggest scam people are believing these days.August 31, 2005 at 1:19 pm #7576
There are plenty of proven medical cases of using electricity to cure AIDS. Mainstream medicine does it for $150,000 on up. Beck let’s you do it for $100.
Germany has been doing it for years.
There are two reasons why people won’t accept, or cannot find cures.
Karma and degreee of wisdom developed.September 1, 2005 at 12:09 pm #7578
I really wish it were so. If you had a cure for aids, gathering dust in a closet it would be beyond a shame. Aids deaths are often death by inches.
What an intersection between Grace and commerce. Open up a massage therapy practice and blast people w/ the Zapper. Avoid the whole medical scene. If it works who ever did it would be both wealthy and a saint.
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