THE BRAIN

Besides Spirit guides, channeling, etc. is thier any actual prrof that atlantis existed. I realize those that beleive in atlantis also beleive the Great Pyradmids were created by Atlanteans but that issue is argued over weekly on the history channel at 3 in the morning.

I mean, where is all the evidence of this great culture? Still buried under the ocean? Is the government covering it up? Did it exist in a different dimension so we can’t see it now?

Or do I just need to be patient until the book comes out?

Got your tummy rumbling did I?
I was just making a dumb joke : )
Although, if you think of it, the cosmological systems of the different wisdom traditions do tend to discuss things in terms emanating from a sun-like, subtle or formless, creatively fertile centre, to increasingly solidified/materialized forms, and then as cycling back again as a matter of natural course or on purpose (digestion…). Therefore, our physical universe is a poached egg! Ok, maybe not.

Michael,

I’m willing to be educated on this but I want you to know that whenever you mention atlantis I start thinking your a nut job (and I suspect I’m not alone).

I mean I looked into this a few years ago and — aside from one or two brief references in ancient texts and a few debatable archeological finds under the ocean — there’s really not much on atlantis.

So even if atlantis did exist in one form or another, I’m unaware of any credible (i.e., idependently verifiable) evidence the nature of that culture.

Yet you periodically let fly about the doings of atlantis, like it was as documented (and verifiable) as WWII, and all anyone has to do is look it up in the encyclopedia. What’s up with that?

I am going to have to agree with spydy here .I even spent an hour or so doing on line search for anything credible on Atlantis. As far as I can see, besides a couple of rebal archeologists who are basing theories on how old the Sphinx is rather than any sort of findings of this vast culture that predates the sphinx.

Aside from those, it’s just new age channleing. If you really respect channels and the information coming from them fine. I have a hard time beleiving in something without some physical evidence of it’s existence though.

but Then again new age writers say Atlantis existed in the “4 th dimension” and we fell into this “3rd dimesnion” so it would be impossible to recognize it from our phyisical reality.

But..so then did the Dinousaurs who lived millions/billions of years ago who’s phyiscial remains we find all the time scattered around the earth live in this ‘3rd dimension’ before we changed to a ‘4 th dimension’? Why can we find there bones and remains but not all this high technology of the Atlanteans? Is it just being hidden by secret societies bent on world domination?

Is is all connected to the pyramis on the dollar bill? Are the masons convering it all up?

And do aliens really exist?

Spill the ebans Michael your a proponent of bringing things from the dark side/secrecy into the light as it looks like your trying to do with teaching Alchemy.

Your post was a bit all over the place so I just want to respond to a few disparate points:

“I believe something so controversial as Atlantis, seeing spirits or auras, or any other paranormal phenomenon has to be experienced for yourself to become meaningful, and you’ll get the answers that are meaningful to you at the time.”

I disagree. I don’t know about all this 4th dimension nonsense but most of the people who talk about Atlantis talk about it existing as a HISTORICAL FACT IN THIS WORLD, pre-dating Egypt and buried under the Atlantic (or the Mediterranean). It’s “controversial” only because there is almost no verifiable evidence of this so-called historical fact. If it existed it should be verifiable. And if someone is stating what it’s culture was like he should be able to explain how he knows that.

“After having read most of the material on Atlantis that I’ve been able to find this far, I actually lean towards disagreeing on Michael’s point about the importance of releasing this kind of information. . . . It makes for great books, but if it’s not fiction, what will I be able to do to with this information? How can I integrate it into my experience. Is it ultimately going to be more head information that, once read, I’ll come back to the board and say “Ah, Michael that was SO awesome (and here’s why)” or “Ah, Michael you are SO full of crap (and here’s why)””

First, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with “head information”. Indeed, I think the more information one has the better.

Second, it is through just this sort of questioning of message and messenger that one clarifies the truth.

Even though I used the term “nut job” in my post above I was trying, in a light and friendly way, to convey that there is a real issue of credibility when someone starts making claims of historical fact about things that – again, to my knowledge – are completely unverifiable by any means other than taking the speaker’s word for it.

And I also meant what I said: I don’t have a monopoly on knowledge and am willing to be educated in this area.

Thanks,

spyrelx

You know, I used to have that position, and I still think it would be extraordinarily cool to live in a world like that.

The problem I keep running into, though, is that we have this rather big thing sitting in Egypt out on the Giza plateau. Pretty much everybody knows its there. I’m no expert, but last I heard we still don’t have the technology to duplicate it.

If I step back from all the debate & speculation from all sides about it, who built it, when, and what it was for… just the fact that it exists at all – in my mind, this should have put a more significant dent in the accepted history than it has. An advanced culture such as ourselves should be able to say, “You know what, maybe human development hasn’t been linear like we thought. For all our great works, these people had something that we just don’t have yet.” We’ve got something big already that, again, to me, should be causing bigger questions, about our evolution and what we may have lost, to be asked in public.

Anybody out there know anybody who asks those kinds of questions in public, who questions the ‘slaves rolling blocks using trees for wheels to build a vast burial chamber that may or may not have been used that way’ who isn’t mostly giggled at? Seriously – that would be a researcher I’d like to know more about.

But it’s not happening that way with the pyramids. So, I hold very little hope that smaller pieces of archaeological evidence of an Atlantean civilization will have great effect on the general population. People that want to believe in Atlantis will find proof in the smallest shred of evidence, and people that don’t, well, how much proof will it take to convince them? It’d take something that completely rocks their world, right now, today. Something that shakes them so much that they can’t continue to function without integrating it, it can’t be put off or be an interesting read.

On a global scale, what realistic scenario could allow that to happen? I’m open to other opinions on this, but I don’t see it as likely that the physical technology – that which might actually provide undeniable proof, of an advanced civilization could survive. (How long will most of our tools last, left exposed to the elements?) Maybe we’ll luck out and get some remains of the fruits of the technology, such as larger structures like roads or remains of buildings. That’s hardly earth-shattering material though, and the public usually walks away with the opinion of whatever expert is speaking most loudly and most often on television.

That’s why I believe it’s more about the personal experience and exploration. No matter how desperately I might want, I don’t believe that it’ll ever be physically proven to public satisfaction, and we already know what happens to the people that provide information acquired “extrasensorily”. The question at the end of the day is, did my interest and personal search for Atlantis (and perhaps, Grail stories, Sasquatch, etc) lead to an expansion of my personal worldview or consciousness? That’s something I can take with me, no matter if Atlantis turns out to be legendary or historical, or what the public opinion du jour on the topic happens to be.

25,000 books, articles, etc. of people remembering Atlantis is pretty strong evidence just from weight of collective memory.

But cleanest evidence is Egyptian high culture: the great pyramid was built by some advanced culture that then declined for 7500 years. But there was no build up, just a bsket weaving culture in the Nile valley before the pyramid was built.

Plus geological evidence re: sphinx age.

What throws off researchers in egypt is the existence of slave quarters, etc.
in the area of the Great Pyramid. These were used to build the second and third pyramids, that were inferior copies of the Great Pyramid built by atlantean adepts.

enough for now…
michael