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October 19, 2007 at 1:53 pm #25042NnonnthParticipant
… you have managed to mix in a doctrinal argument there; I don’t choose to comment on it. j
October 19, 2007 at 1:56 pm #25044NnonnthParticipant>>I hope people do not judge them selves to harshly. I will just remind people that we are all healing, we all have our lessons.<<
And *I* hope that those who choose to teach know what they are teaching. j
October 19, 2007 at 2:22 pm #25046DogParticipantParents do there best, there are traps of egotism in paraent hood and teaching. Best to remember we are all childeren of the life force and the only true teacher is the life force. Sometimes you think you know and then you get hit, the life force seems to always have lessons for use. The biggest room is the one for self improvement.
October 19, 2007 at 2:36 pm #25048NnonnthParticipant>>Parents do there best… Best to remember we are all childeren of the life force<>Sometimes you think you know and then you get hit, the life force seems to always have lessons for use. The biggest room is the one for self improvement.<<
And when you are threatening a stripper with a sword, how are you self-improving exactly? When you hear of the dalai lama doing the same, let me know! He's been 'hit' pretty hard. So was Bardon come to that, concentration camp and nazi torture and all. Didn't hear of him doing any such thing. There is such a thing as respect and even dignity you know. 🙂
By the time you become a real teacher I think you must know how to *deal with the lessons* in a somewhat more graceful manner. That really is the point I'm making Dog. People on here are probably being 'hit' all the time. j
October 19, 2007 at 3:23 pm #25050DogParticipantThe stripper thing I hope was a wake up call. I hope you find peace with this issue. I am glad some buttons got pushed and it did not require a stipper.;)
October 19, 2007 at 4:52 pm #25052NnonnthParticipantOctober 20, 2007 at 11:42 am #25054JernejParticipantthere is the something and there is the not
7 formulas are not attempting to describe the something
7 formulas are attempt at describing the not
hence they are a finger pointing at the moon
only and everytimecompare this to egyptian way:
there is no zero
dig a hole
then fill the hole
who wants this?🙂
October 20, 2007 at 6:16 pm #25056dolphinParticipantI took Kan and Li just this past summer, about 3 months ago. I would say that I took a relatively fast track to that point, doing the first level formula in about 18 months. I did dedicate quite a bit of time daily to the practice, so it didn’t feel like it was too fast. However, I also tend to want to rush things.
I would say that I came into the HT system ‘in crisis’. I had lost my way in the professional world and was generally feeling pretty lost. Finding qigong (Ken Cohen and John DuCane prior to HT) answered something deeeep inside. For as long as I can remember, I had an unspoken question that I had been seeking an answer to. Qigong is providing the means to find the answers to that question and to also ask more questions. I find it satisfying at a very deep level.
Lesser Kan and Li practice is taking a very different tack from my approach to the first formula. I find that this practice is very dense/complex. Moving into it and through it I want to go back and revisit certain of the other practices. In particular I am doing standing tree much more now than I did in the past, and the desire for it is coming from somewhere deep inside.
I’m finding the following hard to put into words, but doing Kan and Li has opened up a perspective on the previous practices and on myself – kind of like de-densifying or adding space between nodes of experience. I’m finding – very early stage – that I can move between the nodes in a certain way. If you find this description obtuse, I apologize.
So this is kind of a roundabout means to get back to part of the original thread. I guess for me right now, I would describe the ‘soul’ as a process or a perspective. An event, not a thing, nor a state. It’s the force that moves the water in the river and the perspective that we use, or that we are, to observe the river as it flows by.
-dolphin
October 22, 2007 at 11:07 am #25058JernejParticipantwithin 20 years publishing rights will be annuled for bardon german editions.
government sanctioned free information.
the publishers suffering will not be monopolized.
magic is about creation
bardon system and empowering
an effective system should be apllicable to a field that is not teaching/translating/indoctrinating
and this gives venues for continuous new product flowbut on the other hand
even tom brown does not fully trust the force
in picking herbs
so it is rare and exception to the ruleOctober 24, 2007 at 1:47 am #25060StevenModerator“The ‘soul’ technically in magical parlance means those bodies which are not (*normally* ^_^) immortal – the lower 2, 3, or 4, depending on how you count. These are the mental astral and physical bodies of Bardon.”
Thanks for explaining this. There is a standard confusion between spirit and soul.
S
October 24, 2007 at 1:48 am #25062StevenModerator. . . and how do they know such a thing?
October 24, 2007 at 7:28 am #25064NnonnthParticipant>>Thanks for explaining this.<<
The confusion is one of language, this is what I mean to point out. In general people talk about the soul in very vague terms, it's my soul man, it's like soul music man… spiritual science is precised and means something specific, but the term is western and not chinese. j
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