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  • November 9, 2014 at 1:20 am #43282
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    the immortal mullah nasruddin and The Immortal Jellyfish- The Only Creature That Lives Forever”

    The Immortal Jellyfish- The Only Creature That Lives Forever”
    MAY 1, 2013 BY SANA LANE 8 COMMENTS
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    http://www.fiboni.com/2013/05/the-immortal-jellyfish-the-only-creature-that-lives-forever/

    Immortality, a very eccentric word that sounds so outlandish in our realistic world. It is a concept that refers to people or animals that can never die. It is often seen in our Greek mythologies and countless fairy tales. Remember, the stories of Peter Pan, the boy who never grew up or the Dracula, wherein the survival in this world was till the point they kept sucking blood? To us, immortality is just an imaginary idea, right?

    However, there is one such creature that seems to beat the usual system of life and by its peculiarities knows how to cheat death. ‘Turritopsis nutricula jellyfish’ also known as Immortal Jellyfish, a unique species of jellyfish that is an immortal creature, owns a mechanism for transforming itself from adult phase to polyp phase, and be a baby again…

    The possession of Knowledge, unless accompanied by a manifestation and expression in Action, is like the hoarding of precious metals-a vain and foolish thing. Knowledge, like wealth, is intended for Use. The Law of Use is Universal, and he who violates it suffers by reason of his conflict with natural forces.–The Kybalion

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    the immortal mullah nasruddin

    by David Holden on February 10, 2014 in Anecdotes, Comedy, Fun, Religion

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    Mulla Nasruddin’s father was the highly-respected keeper of a shrine, the burial-place of a great teacher and a centre of pilgrimage attracting the credulous and the Seekers After Truth alike.

    In the usual course of events, Nasruddin could be expected to inherit this position. But soon after his fifteenth year, when he was considered to be a man, he decided to follow the ancient maxim: ‘Seek knowledge, even if it be in China.’

    ‘I will not try to prevent you, my son,’ said his father. So Nasruddin saddled a donkey and set off on his travels.

    He visited the lands of Egypt and Babylon, roamed in the Arabian Desert, struck northward to Iconium, to Bokhara, Samarkand and the Hindu-Kush mountains, consorting with dervishes and always heading towards the farthest East.

    Nasruddin was struggling across the mountain ranges in Kashmir after a detour through Little Tibet when, overcome by the rarefied atmosphere and privations, his donkey laid down and died.

    Nasruddin was overcome with grief; for this was the only constant companion of his journeyings, which had covered a period of a dozen years or more. Heartbroken, he buried his friend and raised a simple mound over the grave. There he remained in silent meditation; the towering mountains above him, and the rushing torrents below.

    Before very long people who were taking the mountain road between India and Central Asia, China and the shrines of Turkestan, observed this lonely figure: alternately weeping at his loss and gazing across the valleys of Kashmir.

    ‘This must indeed be the grave of a holy man,’ they said to one another; ‘and a man of no mean accomplishments, if his disciple mourns him thus. Why he has been here for many months, and his grief shows no sign of abating.’

    Presently a rich man passed, and, as a pious act, gave orders for a dome and shrine to be erected on the spot. Other pilgrims terraced the mountainside and planted crops whose produce went to the upkeep of the shrine. The fame of the Silent Mourning Dervish gradually spread far and wide until finally even Nasruddin’s father came to hear of it. He at once set off on a pilgrimage to the sanctified spot. When he saw Nasruddin he asked him what had happened. As Nasruddin recounted his tale the old dervish raised his hands in amazement:

    ‘Know, O my son,’ he finally exclaimed, ‘that the shrine where you were brought up, and which was the starting point of your journey, was raised in exactly the same manner, by a similar chain of events, when my own donkey died, over thirty years ago!’

    About David Holden

    David Holden is a marginalised, impoverished musician/artist/thinker living in the North of England. he studied mathematics, psychology and philosophy at both Oxford and Cambridge universities and during the Thatcher years worked as a researcher into transport at University College London, eventually being sidelined for posing too many awkward questions to the government policy makers who commissioned many of the research projects he was employed on. these included a broad-based study of transport energy use, the problems of transporting medium-grade nuclear waste, the relation between public transport, car ownership and population distribution etc etc.

    the immortal mullah nasruddin

    by David Holden on February 10, 2014 in Anecdotes, Comedy, Fun, Religion

    November 16, 2014 at 4:41 pm #43283
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    “You cannot jump higher than your knees, and it is absurd to try to kiss your own elbow.”
    -MULLAH NASR EDDIN

    When the recitation was completed, Socrates requested that the first thesis of the first argument might be read over again, and this having been done, he said: What is your meaning, Zeno? Do you maintain that if being is many, it must be both like and unlike, and that this is impossible, for neither can the like be unlike, nor the unlike like-is that your position?
    Just so, said Zeno. And if the unlike cannot be like, or the like unlike, then according to you, being could not be many; for this would involve an impossibility. In all that you say have you any other purpose except to disprove the being of the many? and is not each division of your treatise intended to furnish a separate proof of this, there being in all as many proofs of the not-being of the many as you have composed arguments? Is that your meaning, or have I misunderstood you?
    No, said Zeno; you have correctly understood my general purpose.
    I see, Parmenides, said Socrates, that Zeno would like to be not only one with you in friendship but your second self in his writings too; he puts what you say in another way, and would fain make believe that he is telling us something which is new. For you, in your poems, say The All is one, and of this you adduce excellent proofs; and he on the other hand says There is no many; and on behalf of this he offers overwhelming evidence. You affirm unity, he denies plurality. And so you deceive the world into believing that you are saying different things when really you are saying much the same. This is a strain of art beyond the reach of most of us.
    -PLATO, Parmenides

    Tardigrades are able to survive in extreme environments that would kill almost any other animal, including:
    Temperature – tardigrades can survive being heated for a few minutes to 151 °C (304 °F), or being chilled for days at −200 °C (-328 °F). Some can even survive cooling to −272 °C (~1 degree above absolute zero or -458 °F) for a few minutes.
    Pressure – they can withstand the extremely low pressure of a vacuum and also very high pressures, more than 1,200 times atmospheric pressure. Tardigrades can survive the vacuum of open space and solar radiation combined for at least 10 days. Some species can also withstand pressure of 6,000 atmospheres, which is nearly six times the pressure of water in the deepest ocean trench, the Mariana trench.
    Dehydration – the longest that living tardigrades have been shown to survive in a dry state is nearly 10 years, although there is one report of a leg movement, not generally considered “survival”, in a 120-year-old specimen from dried moss. When exposed to extremely low temperatures, their body composition goes from 85% water to only 3%. As water expands upon freezing, dehydration ensures the tardigrades do not get ripped apart by the freezing ice.
    Radiation – tardigrades can withstand 1,000 times more radiation than other animals, median lethal doses of 5,000 Gy (of gamma rays) and 6,200 Gy (of heavy ions) in hydrated animals (5 to 10 Gy could be fatal to a human). The only explanation found in earlier experiments for this ability was that their lowered water state provides fewer reactants for the ionizing radiation. However, subsequent research found that tardigrades, when hydrated, still remain highly resistant to shortwave UV radiation in comparison to other animals, and that one factor for this is their ability to efficiently repair damage to their DNA resulting from that exposure.[36]
    Irradiation of tardigrade eggs collected directly from a natural substrate (moss) showed a clear dose-related response, with a steep decline in hatchability at doses up to 4 kGy, above which no eggs hatched. The eggs were more tolerant to radiation late in development. No eggs irradiated at the early developmental stage hatched, and only one egg at middle stage hatched, while eggs irradiated in the late stage hatched at a rate indistinguishable from controls.[37]
    Environmental toxins – tardigrades can undergo chemobiosis, a cryptobiotic response to high levels of environmental toxins. However, as of 2001, these laboratory results have yet to be verified.
    Outer space – tardigrades are the first known animal to survive in space. On September 2007, dehydrated tardigrades were taken into low Earth orbit on the FOTON-M3 mission carrying the BIOPAN astrobiology payload. For 10 days, groups of tardigrades were exposed to the hard vacuum of outer space, or vacuum and solar UV radiation. After being rehydrated back on Earth, over 68% of the subjects protected from high-energy UV radiation revived within 30 minutes following rehydration, but subsequent mortality was high; many of these produced viable embryos. In contrast, dehydrated samples exposed to the combined effect of vacuum and full solar UV radiation had significantly reduced survival, with only three subjects of Milnesium tardigradum surviving. In May 2011, Italian scientists sent tardigrades on board the International Space Station along with other extremophiles on STS-134, the final flight of Space Shuttle Endeavour. Their conclusion was that microgravity and cosmic radiation “did not significantly affect survival of tardigrades in flight, confirming that tardigrades represent a useful animal for space research.” In November 2011, they were among the organisms to be sent by the US-based Planetary Society on the Russian Fobos-Grunt mission’s Living Interplanetary Flight Experiment to Phobos; however, the launch failed.
    -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardigrade

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