July 15, 2011 at 8:04 am #37601
THE ONE CLOUD CHALLENGE: 7TH FORMULA: HUMAN-BLACK HOLE
the grounding is not finite and limited to earth.
a infinite lineage of dan tiens connecting human and universe.
how do you get to the sun? draw the line with your finger.
does the path go up (from you directly/straight to the sun) or down and then up (you-earth-sun)
the idea is not new. Remember dantes divine comedy.
The path to/in hell is paved with good intents (folk proverb).
The path to heaven goes through hell (divine comedy).
In this case, literally.
Five techniques ideas:
First idea: the enlightenment formulas are postnatal approximation of immortality practice.
Second idea: expanding the 6th formula.
Human-center of earth-center of sun-center of milky way-center of universe
Human-planet earth-solar system-milky way-universe
Third idea: generalizing the first and second idea.
A being, a planet, a solar system, a galaxy, a universe.
Use either mass or center or couple both.
Fourth idea: generalization for blind navigation.
Now. Spinning. Wobbling. Rotating/inclination. Grasp. Next.
Fifth idea: dan tien is black hole
Human-black hole. Black hole1-black hole2- black hole3-etc.
Sixth idea: do kan li via the earth pole
Expand to each element via the full use of infinite earth pole. Adjust the north star to black hole. Still use different dan tiens for different levels.
cook each cauldron via the enligtenement/heavenly pole. Then cook each cauldron via immortality approach/infinite prenatal heavenly pole.
The one cloud formulas context.
One cloud formulas include consistent raising of cauldrons within the central channel and upward expansion within the formulas. The idea balances this bias with an equal opposite principle.
This bias shows clearly in organization where serving is emphasized.
Winn extensively showed how to upgrade kan li formulas to the immortality level.
But this approach has a limit: pole star is not the center of the universe, nor is wobbling of gravitational north pole relevant to the center of the universe.
Their relevance is limited to kan li. Or rather they limit the expansion of the immortal principle.
Thus at one point the kan li paradigm needs to be pierced to immortal principle. Hence this presentation.
enlightenment:=developing the perfect elemental
method: using best manifested approximation of gravitational influence that exist
grounding pathway: into the earth/prenatal heaven
direction of expansion: up and above
immortality:=developing a perfect: center of gravity/inner space/inner peace
immortality method: not doing, being. Change, strategy. the inner peace. Even inner smile.
Grounding pathway: into the heaven/postnatal heaven
Direction of expansion: down and bellow
dan tien:= a matrix. Where prenatal and postnatal meet. a center of gravity and not a elemental.
Chi ball is a approximation of a dan tien. Like the sun star for the black hole that holds the sun and the solar planets within.
the 7th formula:
Human (lower dan tien is individual gravity center)-earth (hollow earth as a black hole)-sun (also probable black hole)-galaxy center (black hole)-universe center (black hole).
The chain of physical dan tiens.
Here the expansion means expanding down. Of course earth is finite. But the 7th formula says why it is infinite. :). Earth opens up to sun. as does sun to the next nesting black hole. Etc. now you have the idea.
Human of course has many dan tiens. As he has physical and many layers of energy bodies. But only in lower dan tien do all other channels intersect. The higher the dan tien, the less energy layers it encompasses. Thus higher dan tiens are more related with enlightenment.
how the 7th formula was developed.
the one cloud formula progression.
1st to 6th formula:
Fusion: elemental form of personal gravity
Kan li formulas: developing the ever more balanced elemental in an ever expanding space.
Expanding: here it means going up and away. And a horizontal development
the sealing the senses: still developing the elementals, but now the work is on vertical axis, using its heavenly pole
Heaven and earth: using the vertical axis, but this time both of it poles; earth pole gets the same pull as heaven
Next recognized inductive step:
make earth pole stronger than the heavenly (postnatal heaven above), for the reverse imbalance and a balance has already been covered in previous formulas.
With earth pull being dominant, this also signifies the essential difference between enlightenment and immortality training:
Enlightenment as elemental training and immortality as gravity training.
And one cloud formulas from 1th to 6th as a gradual transition from elemental to gravity training.
First step at concretization of the 7th formula using inductive conclusion:
human and nature/universe/dao
still working the vertical plane (compared to 6h formula)
earth pull gets the dominance (compared to 6h formula)
the gravity development gets dominance
navigating by inner peace/faith alone
previous elemental training serves as manifested sign(post)s/heavenly grounding for reading omens when working blind via inner peace.
but first use intermediating approach of applying kan and li formulas to the 7th formula.
how to do the 7th formula, part 1:
first idea: the enlightenment formulas are postnatal approximation of immortality practice.
Lessons from fusion:
Fusion one shows how to connect it to personal energies.
Kan li with more collective energies.
However the dirk oellibrandt showed how to apply such expansion to the same collection points, and possibility even to have them all within lower abdomen. This is significant as all higher formulas have collection point within the same physical container. And because it shows how to expand to any size/level any formula at any dan tien. First maximum versatility within the one cloud formulas.
Lessons from greater kan li.
Generaly all greater fields are ultimately absorbed via heavenly pole within ht curriculum.
But there is a lesson within ht on how to absorb them within an earth/grounding pole.
Winn showed this.
He first refused the spirit body split and ventured to develop ways for energy body development inside the physical body.
Winn then, also inspired by his atlantean infusion, intuited and demonstrated succinctly how to do sun and moon meditation inside the earth.
Search Winn greater kan li course.
Do the same, just connect to the sun directly from within the earth, and not via the human intermediary.
Same with moon. From within the earth connect to the moon. Not via human intermediary.
Lessons from greatest kan li.
Winn here stays with direct relationship with the sun, as everybody can see it. He realized connection between earth planet portal and sun planet portal.
Here the direct path is groked to be a downward one.
Human, then ass (hui yin) then earth.
Next, from within the earth move to the sun.
Now do the solar fusion applying basic cosmic healing II technique from within the sun. Pair the planets and do kan li. Or do earth/fire and sun/water kan li. Etc. Establish direct connection between the sun and planets, not via human physical body intermediary.
Attune to the planets pull to gradually yield and navigate into the suns center.
Well, the stars are nested within the milky way.
That means the next black hole.
Thus when the sun portal opens, shift within the suns black hole into the black hole of milky way.
Now do the star fusion. Choose your method.
Of course some celestial bodies are beyond milky way.
Or rather there are celestial bodies that milky way is nested within.
Using induction one can deduce the fusion and the kan li formula for even such bodies.
Using vega-polaris or supernova-black hole etc. polarities.
Hence the title 7th formula: human-earth-sun-center of milky way-center of universe
Ground pathways can be developed via projection via chain of gravity fields.
Or via just expanding energy body along downward path.
Correspondence with inside and above the body enlightenment practice development via the postnatal heavenly pole is apparent. Many possibilities stem from this.
what about heaven and earth formula?
This is the transition formula from enlightenment to immortality training.
Hence the approximation idea regarding enlightenment formula does not uphold.
how to do the 7th formula, part 2.
Or the expanded 6th formula:
Heaven and earth.
The formula limits the prenatal to the earth. The naming definition limits the prenatal to the earth in the formula.
Which in a sense it is true. If one also acknowledges that the earth is a portal to/of a infinite principle.
This idea shows that the prenatal heaven transcends earth.
Thus the full heaven and earth formula includes both full infinite prenatal and infinite postnatal principle.
Both in depth and space.
But beyond the solar system, the father principle fully intermingles with the mother principle, which shows the relevance of such principality to solar (sun-earth) space.
This also reveals the full earth pole of heaven-earth (heaven-human-earth) formula.
Or the second idea for 7th formula.
And the two full pathways for inner smile:
One of ever greater expansion to heavenly pole (postnatal heavenly pole ladder)
One of ever greater expansion of earthly pole (lineage of gravity)
The father and mother principle.
Coupled in a human. A humane form. A humanity.
The mother pole is quite straightforward.
Human-center of earth-center of sun-center of milky way-center of universe
There is of course dilemma about the father principle:
X1: Human-planet earth-solar system-milky way-universe
X2: Human-earth-sun (with planets: approx. for solar system)-north star (with milky way quandrants: approximation for milky way)-north star (with universal quandrants: approximation for universe).
Which is also a possible distinction to differentiate expanded heaven-human(ity)-earth (6th formula) (X2 as postnatal heavenly pole) and human-nature (7th formula) (X1 as postnatal heavenly pole).
Why human-nature formula
Using the second idea,
The formula is prenatal universe-human-postnatal universe.
But because of as above, so bellow,
The prenatal and postnatal in toto are the same.
And a trick for the eager.
Why is star alchemy among the immortality and not enlightenment levels?
The light in this solar system is from the sun. Star alchemy works to approximate the center that is bigger than the sun, hence not light of sun, hence immortality. even if it really is still enlightenment practise, if viewed from a larger scale.
The enlightenment practise as a approximation of the immortality practice is fully applicable to star alchemy.
why is 7th formula not just first six formula simultaneously:
the grounding pull is still dwarfed and neglected when compared to the upward heaven expansion. The grounding principle does not stop with the center of the earth.
Why arent the formulas cyclical:
The first formula is fusion. The last is not fusion in name. Were the intent cyclical, the name would be the same.
is 7th formula description sufficient.
It does not include this world. postnatal understanding. Enlightenment thus is important.
And, also very significantly, it does not include karma. Personal and group karma. This connects to strategy and change.
This is a very important issue not addressed here. It relates to application of formulas on a thing/issue. Since skill is limited by the glass ceiling of karma, the pickle is obvious.
after the lesser kan li one does not develop individuality per se.
hence the human and heaven should be humanity and heaven,
and heaven-earth expanded to heaven-human-earth should be heaven-humanity-earth.
As one is developing humanity (within ones self) and not the separateness of his individuality.
And human-nature should be humanity-nature/universe/dao.
what, human, sun and the center of milky way are black holes.
Well, lets see the folk wisdom
-black hole at the center of universe
black hole of the milky way galaxy
-there is idea among astronomers that every galaxy has a black hole in its center
sun’s black hole within the sun planet
-viktor schauberger: sun is black, not white
-nassim haramein: sun is not solid and can be travelled through. Thus a black hole
earth as a black hole
-hollow earth concept: how would you explain the unthinkable to the resisting
human black hole
-well, Taoists do speak of a dan tien as a center of gravity that differs from a nested elemental at its position.
difference between sun-black hole-earth
sun: black hole with a postnatal physical elemental positioned in its center
black hole: a black hole without a postnatal physical elemental nested in its center
earth: a black hole that is dominated by a elemental nested within its center.
how to do the 7th formula, part 3:
third idea: generalize the process of the first idea
observing this from a Taoist perspective:
a being is a dan tien.
human is a dan tien
earth is a dan tien
sun is a dan tien
black hole is a dan tien
where postnatal and prenatal meet
each dan tien is a nest for a body.
Thus through the nesting one travels
of course also every aspect (like physical, emotions, mental ) is held by a dan tien.
But only the physical dan tien is the one, where all other aspects meet.
Other dan tien also hold every other aspects, but some aspects only in symbolic form.
Using this generalized idea, the 7th formula is: a being, a planet, a planet holding the planet, repeat this until only black hole is that holds the last planet/elemental-next greater black hole-repeat at infinity
If there isnt a planet, a greater center and the mass that holds that greater center.
Use either centers of gravity of the ever greater masses or the masses themselves.
Or couple both principles.
is there a great hole within the great hole:
yes, as the milky way is held within its black hole, so are they both held by the black hole of universe, which holds the whole universe. if there arent even some intermediary black holes
Now some more folk wisdom regarding through the earth flying
Besides hollow earth and its derivative thought, there is also
dan winter and travelling via earth:
ancients travelling through personal nesting
there are two ways of travelling: via earth and via sky.
Via earth demands fire-ing up the jing/blood (?)
Via skies: he makes the comment that if it relies upon smoking and metal ships, it does not utilize earth portal and for they cannot fire the blood anymore. He speaks of not trusting them if coming from a smoking cigar.
Yet when observing his gesticulation it reveals that he points up (above head/sky) when talking about nesting, and not down where one should if one were to travel via earth.
So it is a challenging concept, earth portal, even for the inclined.
you may already know ht father
now meet ht mother.
Just like the heavenly pole expanding into infinity,
The earth pole of central channel expands into infinity.
It is just not linear, straight line.
Or rather it is, it just follows different dimension.
Heavenly pole covers the postnatal part of central channel.
Earth pole covers the prenatal part of central channel.
Both start with human and expand to encompass the whole universe.
(there is difference between a north star (currently polaris) and center of universe, so there are different ways of approximation within postnatal heaven elemental approximations)
The difference is in the first step.
The postnatal heaven skips the earth and goes directly for the sun.
Thus heaven and earth pole/path is a solar related concept.
And a question arises what to do when both principles are already balanced inside the sun.
there is idea that ht formula is a lineage of heavenly immortals.
Here one gets a new perspective what heaven and such lineage is.
how to do the 7th formula, part 4:
fourth idea: Now. Spinning. Wobbling. Rotating/inclination. Grasp. Next.
Lets move beyond the enlightenment crutch/grounding.
Beyond ching-chi-shen (and heaven-human-earth) to ching only as the ultimate prenatal.
The kan li/enlightenment formulas work hard to approximate center of a body, a spinning axis of a body, or the wobbling of such spinning axis, and the circulating of a body around other bodies.
Hence the formula:
First assert the presence. Allow your self time (now)
Then through attunement align with the spinning/wobbling/circling to find the center (Spinning. Wobbling. Rotating/inclination)
Then balance the aspects. When the portal opens, allow. (Grasp)
Then start anew within a new space (Next)
is this first, third and fourth idea inside the 7th formula name?
yes. The human and heaven.
Nature on any level is postnatal heaven.
Just read prenatal heaven.
swimming dragon. Heavenly dragon.
Here the tiger plays in ltt.
Which may or may not host swimming dragon.
but observing the syllogism,
it is not that unusual, this presented idea.
The chia first lowered the platform. To the 3rd eye.
Chia was already reproached for lowering the plane.
First one cloud descriptions have added commentary. Like:
Awaken healing light. Formula description, p. 45, 46: heaven and earth:
with the body, truth cannot be realized.
Awaken healing light. Formula description, p. 46: heaven and man:
If you sink, this is bad. This idea challenges this notion.
Winn already challenged this notion
Winns inner smile book. the inner smile of the dark light/dark matter is already part of winns yang inner smile. Here just the pathway is specific.
Winn went further and offered clinical definition of formulas
And developed full system for chi development inside the body. showed how to utilize the chi kung forms for one cloud formulas. Used example of Liu hung Chieh forms.
And through his work in kriya yoga (e.g. hariharananda: ghavad gita, in the light of kriya yoga, book one, introduction) independently of ht recognized the importance of suction and expanded it into a full basic principle. the dan tien is where chi comes to completion remember the can opener empty force breathing. Opens the portals for enlightenment elementals. And can bring you directly through the darkness to ultimately the black hole.
It is actually quite difficult to differentiate within the winns work the enlightenment and immortality principle.
Winns influence and effort actually revealed the immortal way of kan li.
And showed how to do greater kan li into the earth. Greater kan li within postnatal earth cauldron the first step in a structured immortality practice
But as he realized the importance of not bypassing the sun, the earth may be bypassed in direct connecting to the sun in his greatest kan li.
By connecting directly to sun and not to sun via the earth, the omittion is done.
polaris vega star alchemy course shows how to apply the next step.
But his star alchemy formula has inner north pole as the cauldron. Correct, but this time for enlightenment practise.
So his expansion of immortality principle reached the limits of kan li and star alchemy structure.
it also left the black hole of last formula silent.
Probable initiation of the upgrade is his antlantean exposure and his destiny.
Similarly Oellibrandt, who is also heavy into the lower dan tien and inner space, showed how to use meridian stretching for fusion , and revealed possibility how to adapt collecting points to suit the purpose. And how to expand collection points of any level formula to include any postnatal vastness by showing it on fusion one points.
one cloud taught without visualization. it will happen as your body is refined and cultivated
that probably means e.g.six.healing sounds just sounds and all other things happen.
Map can still be given
(well this proves he taught immortality practice and not just enlightenment. If it is called emptiness it is irrelevant to ht formulas per se)
The central channel as postnatal to prenatal connection of nested cauldrons was already recognized.
Then the expansion into the earth.
This idea here is just a next step.
there is a public medieval diagram that connect sun and earth, but places moon between.
But since in the diagram there is also a hidden element between sun and tai chi,
those elements that are may not be as they are.
different dan tien emit different light.
human being emits his energy body
sun planets clearly emits bright light
black hole emits dark light
possible conclusion: if a planet is nested in the center of a black hole, it is the bright light bringer
chi ball and personal dan tien
sun and solar black hole
when a black hole hosts a star, the star is a sun.
same when a chi ball is breathing inside the personal center of gravity
the personal dan tien makes chi ball personal sun.
remember the empty force breathing, if done with chi ball.
different dan tiens are nested in different dan tiens:
human is tossed around by the earth,
earth………… by the sun,
sun …………. by the galaxy,
gallaxy ……. by the universe …
human and nature, second idea in different context:
thus to move from one nesting to the other is to follow the hiearachy of nestings:
the true formula
and true travelling without moving
enlightenment practice is approximation for immortality practice.
But the proportions are wrong
Human is not more important than such vast stellar masses.
So how can human be contrapunct to such masses.
And why it sits on the earth.
So tiny as it is. And so expanded. Yet still attached to the earth. Being torn apart, but still grabing. How stressful.
but human can comfortably sit on earth. That sits on sun. that sits on greater black holes. Etc.
thus the proper proportions are: the snowman.
Big earth, upon which big ltt, smaller middle dan tien and even smaller upper dan tien etc.
(and not a reversed snowman, with belly top and small head bellow)
sit on earth.
now yield. To the earth.
It is already pulling you. It is the one that is tossing the earth around.
So by yielding to the earth, one yield to the sun.
While not being expanded. Now human can contract. Be the real badass blackhole.
Being inside bigger black holes.
Now you see a way
why is there such emphasis on the 20.000+ year cycle of wobbling the earth.
One could just center in nonwobbling sun or other gravitational axis.
Well, if one sits one earth, for the postnatal alignment is important if one wants to read the sky charts correctly.
Thus it is in alignment with enlightenment practice as approximation for immortality practice,
To use the north stars as approximation of the projected center of universe upon the sky.
then what do individual stages of kan li teach
when observed from immortality phase.
Fusion: personal center of gravity (individuality)
Lesser kan li: ancestral center of gravity (humanity)
Greater kan li: center of earth’s spinning axis (earth planet)
Greatest kan li: center of sun’s spinning axis (solar system)
Sealing the five senses: center of galaxy’s spinning axis (milky way)
Heaven and earth: center of universes spinning axis (universe)
Spinning axis is also a vortex.
Some more idea projections upon kan li structure:
Greater kan li:
Postnatal elemental approximation: north star or southern cross
(this also explains why southern cross work for south pole is correct)
Elemental as approximation for: earth rotational axis
As it is just approximation, it is postnatal.
Postnatal Elemental: sun globe that is rotating around earth
Elemental as approximation for:
line (and accompanying spinning vortex) through the center of earth that is perpendicular to orbital plane of earth rotating around sun
Prenatal Elemental: moon globe that is rotating around earth
Elemental as approximation for: line and the spinning vortex through the center of earth that is perpendicular to moon orbital plane
Sun and moon coupling:
Intersection of the two non-paralel (sun and earth, or sun and moon) vortexes is a way of finding the earth center when navigating blind. Earth is the portal to next step.
Four magnetic directions:
magnetic or rotational north?
Well blind cannot lead the blind. Hence the using of magnetic four direction to find a gravitational point.
Elemental: four directions encircling the earth
Elemental as approximation for: even if one expands along the four magnetic directions, one covers whole earth thereby again finding earth center
many ways of finding earth rotational axis and its higher octave forms (moon, 4 earth directions, sun)
greatest kan li:
earth rotational axis is oscillating in space (because of circling around the sun there is cyclic pull)
find the center of this oscillation (movement of earth axis along the orbit) within the earth vortex and one locates the sun.
Locating a rotational ‘north star’ of the sun is more tricky. Hence use another planet.
(it will locate the sun, even if does not reveal the rotational axis of the sun)
Saturn rotates around the sun. Earth rotates around the sun.
Find the center of both orbits. Or find where they intersect. And you locate the sun center.
Another way of locating the sun center. Hence Saturn as a higher earth octave.
One still has to find the sun rotational axis.
Or perhaps even the rotational axis of the whole solar system.
This one is done blind.
It is unlikely that there is not one.
sealing the five senses:
the earth rotational vortex is still oscillating.
This time is wobbling.
Hence turn around to find the earth vortex when it is in vega.
The polaris earth line/vortex is already revealed.
Nesting one within the other, balancing them out
Creates/reveals another higher octave of the earth rotational axis.
This shows that wobbling is a earth phenomena and not a solar or even galactix, universal phenomena.
We were already at the center of the solar system at greatest kan li, and had to shrink back to the wobbling of the earth.
Thus it reveals the limits of kan li as enlightenment principle.
the formula is now very clear:
individual center of gravity
ancestral center of gravity
earth rotational axis: the spinning
earth rotational axis, higher octave: the wobbling of the axis: find stable axis between polaris and vega directions
earth rotational axis, higher octave: the inclination: shifting to the axis perpendicular to orbital plane
reversing polarities and shifting into sun rotational axis
earth rotational axis, higher octave: the rotation of earth around the sun.
the oscillation of the earth rotational vortex around the sun reveals a central stabilizing axis of the sun in the center of movement of earth rotational axis
two axis are needed to locate the sun point.
The saturn spinning (and probably wobbling) and circling around the sun. and earth circling around the sun. where the two axis cross is the center of the sun and the center of sun rotational axis.
(hence saturn as higher octave of earth)
sun rotational axis
(no star recognized)
searching for solar spinning, wobbling, rotation
grasp (e.g. before: saturn for earth to get to the sun, here search another solar system)
then galaxy vortex
and then universe vortex
Spinning. (find the vortex)
Wobble. (stabilize the vortex)
Rotation. (inclination: use a technique to pin point, direct toward the local center)
Grasp. (grasp local center of a vortex to shift to greater center)
how to do the 7th formula, part 5:
Manifested universe. And unmanifested universe.
How does prenatal heaven manifest, represent in postnatal heaven.
If it is fully the same, differentiation is unnecessary.
Manifested universe is the postnatal heaven. There is manifested, crytalized prenatal heaven in manifested universe: the black hole.
Thus macro prenatal heaven is a black hole.
Thus the 7th formula should be:
How do they connect?
Searching for a graded connection reveals a infinite lineage of dan tiens connecting human and universe.
And reveals the relationship of dan tien and black holes. Black hole is the dan tien of the universe.
You have already seen signs for earth and sun as heaving unsolid, black-hole like properties. And of each galaxy having a black hole at its center.
This reveals the lineage of black holes.
So the question remains, if human lower dan tien is the black hole of a human. It is clearly related to the center of gravity, holds the human form. Thus a small, but still a black hole.
So the expanded formula is:
Black hole1 (human dan tien)-black hole2 (earth)- black hole3 (sun)- black hole4(milky way)-black hole5(universe).
Nested black hole.
So when human connects to a black hole, it is always a question of which black hole he connected to. Actually, only a question of how deep into the black hole he connected to.
So a shorthand of the formula is only:
Black hole as representation of prenatal heaven. On any scale.
So the original definition of human-heaven/nature/universe/tao is in coherence with this idea.
One can easily use the coupling paradigm, as was already discussed.
Not much in there in first, third, fourth and fifth idea (non-coupling ideas).
But one is still one.
Cutting one’s leg that is connection is a (fox) option.
But this comes with a price: loose of substance. And self-fragmentation.
So do honour the heart of humanity.
But that is another riddle.
this also explains why the 7th formula was not revealed.
Down and dark is quite a taboo.
And quite taoist.
But then a renaissance man Dante said a intent: the path to heaven goes through hell (conclusion from observing The divine comedy)
how to do the 7th formula, part 6:
do kan li via the earth pole
it is also interesting pathworking road in itself.
Even for elemental projection cultivation
And also for resonance cultivation. The kan li via the earth pole.
Connecting to the sun via earth.
Connecting to mars: human-earth-sun-mars
Connecting to other solar system: human-earth-sun-center of milky way-other solar system.
Use discipline. So stay within the genealogy lines of universe manifestation and do no jump directly (eg. Human-polaris), rather use the gravity nesting to the full extent (e.g. human-earth-sun-center of milky way- polarisif polaris is part of milky way)
Expand to each element via the full use of infinite earth pole. As already mentioned, change north star to black hole of milky way or black hole of universe.
One can still use different dan tiens for different levels.
Use of quadrants becomes more tricky. As if they are not defined in relation to earth, which is north is relative. Within the milky way the classification of star clusters is quite developed. But within the universe the arbitration is still undeveloped. So discretion is in order.
how to do the 7th formula, part 7:
cook each cauldron via the enligtenement, and then via immortality approach.
Cook first, with elemental connections via the infinite postnatal heavenly pole.
Cook next, with elemental connections via the infinite prenatal heavenly pole.
Dan tiens when cooked at each level via enlightenment approach do form an interesting upgrade of central channel.
Now this would make an even more interesting central channel as a nesting of doubly cooked dan tiens.
one cloud is the best source(rous) formula there is
but one has to crack it or is owned.
then one can just relax into the one’s intent
using bardon terminology, one cloud formulas are not hermetics. it is a way, not universal way, hence sourcerous. but in his system one still uses formulas, one just has to develop them oneself.
Hence the rediscovering the warm water challenge vs the cost of passion.
more.more.more. a never ending process. Unfinished work.
it is alive. Work in progress.
this is intellectual work.
Also a intellectual symbol.
To check the patterns on a level.
Also a gracious work.
References were checked with some diligence. Not full diligence. They may be wrong. But for greater clarity contact or check the source.July 15, 2011 at 9:25 am #37602
I thought the Tao was simple?July 16, 2011 at 11:08 am #37604July 19, 2011 at 4:09 am #37606
Thanks for the post. While I cannot comment too much as I haven’t reached those levels I appreciate the thought and time that went into your post. Seems as you did some out of the box thinking. I have briefly wondered just the beginings of what you talked about. Like what is this universe’s origin point, center, yin/yang poles and some other related questions.
Though I am highly interested in this it is yet still out of my league. So I really can’t comment more without being illogical.July 19, 2011 at 5:56 pm #37608
I appreciate your explorations, thanks for sharing them.
Alchemy is an open system, and everyone can only practice (or teach) what is revealed to and absorbed personally. There is no fixed path for an alchemist.
My changes to One Cloud’s formulas came over 30 years of practice, and teaching over 100 kan & li retreats. I noted what worked and what was simple for people, and what evolved naturally from the Lesser Kan & Li. But it’s very easy to get captured by intellectual speculation. Alchemy is not an idea; it is a physical and energetic and spiritual process, all three simultaneously. If you have put your ideas to the practice test, I would focus on sharing the results of that. It might be more likely to stimulate debate.
Jing Qi Shen trinity exists because a trinity exists in the very beginning, inside the cosmic egg before it cracks open. It’s in the life force itself.
You want to get as directly as possible beyond polarity. That happens in the Heaven & Earth formula. I don’t think you’ve taken this with me, and the course description is inadequate. I just finished teaching it, and there are a lot of new breakthroughs in it, most focused on the nature of the Central Sun (beyond the black hole/clear light portal).
But one still cannot eliminate the creative tension between the non-dual Center (Tai Yi, Central Sun, Prime Creator) and all yin-yang polarities in the Star, Greatest, and levels below.. But you can use the Inner Smile to penetrate into that level, with no spinning, etc.
But I’ve found it works only if you already have developed the INTERNAL GROUND of connecting to your own Oversoul, the Star Being behind the stars,who is shaping our individual soul. So again, stay out of the head, and find the higher ground of your soul. Intellectual ideas about alchemy are useful for discussion, but not to be confused with the experience itself. Thus, the higher one gets, the less there is to say – unless you’ve had experiences that speak for themselves.
Good luck with your ongoing exploration. I welcome you to attend live retreats and catch the ever more simple and direct approach that is revealing itself to me.
love, chi, blessings,
MichaelJuly 23, 2011 at 4:59 am #37610
I am brother to the dragons, and companion to owls. My skin is black upon me, and my bones are burned with heat.
-JOB chapter 30, verses 29-30
A Feynman diagram can be nothing more than a few lines describing a couple of collidind electrons, or it can be a vast network of interconnected branching, looping trajectories describing all of the particles making up anything from a diamond crystal to a living being or an astronomical body. These diagrams can be reduced to afew basic elements that summarize everything that is known about elementary particles. Of course there is more than just the pictures-there are all the technical details of how they are used to make precise calculations, but that’s…
-LEONARD SUSSKIND, The Cosmic Landscape
No pain no pleasure, no pain no pleasure, no pain no pleasure…
-GENITORTURERS, Pleasure in Restraint
From Western Tradition I personally would prefer Goethe’s Faust, but somehow if you look what kind of persons are inclined to study such texts as a kind of catechism, it starts to get easy to see the pattern; guys like Rudolf Steiner, Nikola Tesla, Mitchell Feigenbaum etc.
In my opinion problem is with what it’s usefull to load down human mind, I mean it takes quite an effort to really developt and also maintain it.
I am not trying to comment in detail Healing Tao formulas (maybe I don’t know them well enough) or maybe one should do that with Chao Pi Ch’en 16 formula system, but then one should work with original Chinese text and not with English translation.
Human verbal inventory seem to be actually very precious thing also in spiritual sense and not only practically, so because it’s very limited , it’s better to fill it with something which is in the edge in present moment.
So if I would need to choose between Chinese Cosmology and for example Quantum Field Theory, I will choose…
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