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The Strange World of Psychopaths (Article): Shen Disturbance?

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  • January 24, 2008 at 7:32 pm #27137
    Michael Winn
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    note; I am posting this interesting article. so that readers gain insight into what is known as “shen disturbance”. Psychopath is an extra case. I suspect it to be a case of the Zhi, kidney spirit, somehow cut off from ability to feel and communicate this to the heart and other vital spirits. How or why Kidney spirit could be so totally cut off I leave to others offer up their theory on….. – Michael

    THE UNBURDENED MIND
    By Christopher S. Putnam
    DamnInteresting.com
    January 20th, 2008

    ³I don¹t think I feel things the same way you do.²

    The man sits at the table in the well-fitted attire of success — charming,
    witty, and instantly likeable. He is a confident, animated speaker, but he
    seems to be struggling with this particular point.

    ³It¹s likeŠ at my first job,² he continues, ³I was stealing maybe a thousand
    bucks a month from that place. And this kid, he was new, he got wise. And he
    was going to turn me in, but before he got the chance I went to the manager
    and pinned the whole thing on him.² Now he is grinning widely. ³Kid lost his
    job, the cops got involved, I don¹t know what happened to him. And I guess
    something like that is supposed to make me feel bad, right? It¹s supposed to
    hurt, right? But instead, it¹s like there¹s nothing.² He smiles
    apologetically and shakes his head. ³Nothing.²

    His name is Frank, and he is a psychopath.

    In the public imagination, a “psychopath” is a violent serial killer or an
    over-the-top movie villain, as one sometimes might suspect Frank to be. He
    is highly impulsive and has a callous disregard for the well-being of others
    that can be disquieting. But he is just as likely to be a next-door
    neighbor, a doctor, or an actor on TV — essentially no different from
    anyone else who holds these roles, except that Frank lacks the nagging
    little voice which so profoundly influences most of our lives. Frank has no
    conscience. And as much as we would like to think that people like him are a
    rare aberration, safely locked away, the truth is that they are more common
    than most would ever guess.

    …….

    “[M]y mother, the most beautiful person in the world. She was strong, she
    worked hard to take care of four kids. A beautiful person. I started
    stealing her jewelry when I was in the fifth grade. You know, I never really
    knew the bitch — we went our separate ways.” — Hare, Without Conscience:
    The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us

    …….

    The word psychopathy dates back in an early form to the 19th century, but as
    a modern term it¹s primarily used in reference to the work of Canadian
    psychologist Robert Hare. Hare¹s PCL-R tool (Psychopathy Checklist –
    Revised) was developed to test for a wide range of socially deviant
    behaviors and personality traits, the most important being the absence of
    any sense of conscience, remorse, or guilt. The result of this combination
    is a destructive, self-serving, and often dangerous individual sometimes
    called ³the born criminal.”

    The psychopath’s world is a strikingly skewed one in which the normal laws
    of human emotion and interaction do not apply — yet it serves as reality
    for a sizable portion of humanity. Spanning all cultures and eras, roughly
    one man in every 100 is born a clinical psychopath, as well as one woman in
    every 300. They are so common that every person reading this sentence almost
    certainly knows one personally; indeed, a significant number of readers are
    likely psychopaths themselves.

    Many potential psychopaths might not even realize they have the condition,
    nor has there traditionally been any easy way for others to recognize them.
    The leading scientific test is Hare’s PCL-R, but to be valid it must be
    performed by a qualified professional under controlled conditions. For those
    who can’t be bothered with such expensive frills, we present the PCL-DI: an
    alternative, PCL-inspired test guaranteed to appear scientific.

    The concept of the psychopath is only the latest and most refined in a long
    string of attempts to account for a certain pattern of conduct. In the 19th
    century, psychiatric clinicians began to notice patients in their care who
    fit no known diagnosis, but who nevertheless displayed strange and
    disturbing behaviors. They were impulsive and self-destructive. They had no
    regard for the feelings and welfare of others. They lied pathologically, and
    when caught, they shrugged it off with a smirk and moved on to the next lie.
    It was a puzzle — because while there was clearly something unusual about
    these patients, they showed none of the psychotic symptoms or defects in
    reason thought necessary for mental illness at the time. Indeed, apart from
    a tendency to follow foolish and irresponsible impulses that sometimes got
    them into trouble, they were coldly rational — more rational, perhaps, than
    the average citizen. Their condition therefore came to be referred to as
    manie sans délire (³insanity without delirium²), a term which later evolved
    into moral insanity once the central role of a ³defective conscience² came
    to be appreciated. By the 20th century, these individuals would be called
    sociopaths or said to suffer from antisocial personality disorder, two terms
    that are still used interchangeably with psychopathy in some circles, while
    in others are considered distinct but related conditions.

    The psychopath does not merely repress feelings of anxiety and guilt or fail
    to experience them appropriately; instead, he or she lacks a fundamental
    understanding of what these things are. When asked a question such as ³What
    does remorse feel like?² for instance, the typical psychopath will become
    irritated, deflect the question, or attempt to change the subject. The
    following response from a psychopathic rapist, asked why he didn¹t empathize
    with his victims, shows just how distanced such a person can be from normal
    human emotion:

    “They are frightened, right? But, you see, I don’t really understand it.
    I’ve been frightened myself, and it wasn’t unpleasant.” — Hare, Without
    Conscience: The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us

    Arriving at a disaster scene, a psychopath would most likely gather to watch
    with the rest of the crowd. He might even lend assistance if he perceived no
    threat to his own safety. But he would feel none of the panic, shock, or
    horror of the other onlookers — his interest would fall more on the
    reactions of the victims and of the crowd. He would not be repulsed by any
    carnage on display, except perhaps in the same sense as serial killer Paul
    Bernardo when he described cutting up one of his victims¹ bodies as ³the
    most disgusting thing he had ever done.² He was referring to the mess it
    made.

    Despite this emotional deficiency, most psychopaths learn to mimic the
    appearance of normal emotion well enough to fit into ordinary society, not
    unlike the way that the hearing impaired or illiterate learn to use other
    cues to compensate for their disabilities. As Hare describes it, psychopaths
    ³know the words but not the music.² One might imagine that such a false and
    superficial front would be easily penetrated, but such is rarely the case,
    probably because of the assumption we all tend to make that others think and
    feel essentially the same way as ourselves. Differences in culture, gender,
    personality, and social status all create empathy gaps that can seem almost
    unfathomable, but none of these is as fundamental a divide as the one that
    exists between an individual with a conscience and one without. The
    psychopath’s psychology is so profoundly alien to most people that we are
    unable to comprehend their motives, or recognize one when we see one.
    Naturally, the industrious psychopath will find this to his advantage.

    Some psychologists go so far as to label the psychopath ³a different kind of
    human² altogether. Psychopathy has an environmental component like nearly
    all aspects of personal psychology, but its source is rooted firmly in
    biology. This has caused some researchers to suspect that the condition
    isn¹t a ³disorder² at all, but an adaptive trait. In a civilization made up
    primarily of law-abiding citizenry, the theory goes, an evolutionary niche
    opens up for a minority who would exploit the trusting masses.

    This hypothesis is supported by the apparent success many psychopaths find
    within society. The majority of these individuals are not violent criminals;
    indeed, those that turn to crime are generally considered ³unsuccessful
    psychopaths² due to their failure to blend into society. Those who do
    succeed can do so spectacularly. For instance, while it may sound like a
    cynical joke, it¹s a fact that psychopaths have a clear advantage in fields
    such as law, business, and politics. They have higher IQs on average than
    the general population. They take risks and aren¹t fazed by failures. They
    know how to charm and manipulate. They¹re ruthless. It could even be argued
    that the criteria used by corporations to find effective managers actually
    select specifically for psychopathic traits: characteristics such as
    charisma, self-centeredness, confidence, and dominance are highly correlated
    with the psychopathic personality, yet also highly sought after in potential
    leaders. It was not until recent years — in the wake of some
    well-publicized scandals involving corporate psychopaths — that many
    corporations started to reconsider these promotion policies. After all,
    psychopaths are interested only in their own gain, and trouble is inevitable
    when their interests begin to conflict with those of the company. This was
    the case at Enron, and again at WorldCom — and Sunbeam CEO Al Dunlap,
    besides doctoring the books and losing his company millions of dollars,
    would allegedly leave his wife at home without access to food or money for
    days at a time.

    The thought of these people wearing suits and working a 9-5 job conflicts
    with most people¹s image of psychopaths gleaned from films like The
    Godfather and The Silence of the Lambs. But it shouldn¹t be surprising. A
    lack of empathy does not necessarily imply a desire to do harm — that comes
    from sadism and tendencies toward violence, traits which have only a small
    correlation with psychopathy. When all three come together in one
    individual, of course, the result is catastrophic. Ted Bundy and Paul
    Bernardo are extreme examples of such a combination.

    ……..

    “Do I feel bad when I hurt someone? Yeah, sometimes. But mostly it’s just
    likeŠ uhŠ (laughs). I mean, how did you feel the last time you squashed a
    fly?” — Unnamed rapist/kidnapper

    ……..

    If psychopaths often appear where we don¹t expect them, neither does the
    clinical term always apply where we think it might. Nazi Luftwaffe chief
    Hermann Goering is thought to have met the diagnostic criteria, but Hitler’s
    own behavior was frequently inconsistent with that of a psychopath.
    Columbine killer Eric Harris fit the description, but his accomplice Dylan
    Klebold did not. In total, only about 20% of a typical prison population
    qualifies as psychopathic (half of the violent offenders), and the
    difference from the general population is readily apparent to those who know
    them well. Even the most hardened of normal offenders can find their
    psychopathic cellmates unnerving.

    The same discovery awaits most anyone who becomes close to such an
    individual. In romantic relationships, a psychopath may be charming and
    affectionate just long enough to establish intimacy with a partner, and then
    suddenly become abusive, unfaithful, and manipulative. The bewildered
    partner might turn to friends and family with their story, only to be met
    with disbelief — how could the warm, outgoing individual everyone has come
    to know possibly be guilty of these acts? All too often, the abused partner
    blames the situation on themselves, and comes out of the relationship
    emotionally destroyed.

    But from a comfortable distance, the impression given off by a psychopath is
    often highly positive. The same absence of inhibitions and honesty that
    makes psychopaths so dangerous also gives them unusual powers of charisma
    through self-confidence and fabricated flattery. The aforementioned Sunbeam
    CEO Al Dunlap was a legend in business circles — ³a corporate god,² some
    called him — precisely for his ruthless, results-oriented business style
    and in-your-face, furniture-hurling personality. In social circles,
    psychopaths are often the most popular friends among members of both sexes.
    And strikingly, in entertainment media such as films and books, it¹s not
    just the villains who tend to have psychopathic personalities — it¹s the
    heroes, too.

    One doesn¹t have to look far to find examples of this kind of protagonist.
    James Bond, the promiscuous, daring secret agent who can ski down a
    mountainside while being chased by armed attackers without breaking a sweat,
    is a textbook case. Frank Abagnale Jr., the charming con-man on whom the
    recent book and film Catch Me if You Can were based, is another highly
    likely candidate. And nearly every character played by action stars such as
    Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sylvester Stallone — the ones who vow revenge on
    an enemy and rampage about while coolly spouting one-liners — would qualify
    for a diagnosis.

    …….

    ³I wouldn¹t be here if my parents had come across when I needed them,² he
    [ŒTerry,¹ imprisoned bank robber] said. ³What kind of parents would let
    their son rot in a place like this?² Asked about his children, he replied,
    ³I¹ve never seen them. I think they were given up for adoption. How the hell
    should I know?² — Hare, Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of the
    Psychopaths Among Us

    …….

    The reasons we look up to these conscience impaired people are unclear. Most
    likely it has something to do with the confidence they exude, the ease they
    seem to feel in any situation — a trait that comes easily in someone
    essentially incapable of fear or anxiety. Maybe we¹re easily suckered in by
    their natural glibness and charm. Or maybe on some level we envy the freedom
    they have, with no burden of conscience or emotion.

    The psychopaths, for their part, will never know things any other way. Most
    experts agree that the condition is permanent and completely untreatable.
    It¹s been theorized that their situation is the result of a kind of
    inherited learning disorder: without dread or anxiety to deter them,
    psychopaths are unable to make the associations between behavior and
    punishment that make up the building blocks of a normal conscience. That
    being the case, it is questionable whether a description such as ³evil² —
    which is not uncommon in both the popular and scientific literature — can
    really be applied to individuals incapable of understanding what it means.

    But to those who cross their paths, this may be small comfort.

    ……………

    Christopher S. Putnam is a writer and bomb-disposal expert for the Damn
    Interesting A-Team. He posts from an undisclosed location in Saskatchewan,
    Canada.

    January 24, 2008 at 9:48 pm #27138
    Michael Winn
    Keymaster

    This is an open question – whether excessive detachment reduces feelings and qualifies as a kind of psychopath, which as we saw in previoius article, are often very successful people. Are “successful meditators” who get very removed from daily life in this category?

    Your thoughts?

    michael

    January 25, 2008 at 1:54 am #27140
    Steven
    Moderator

    Here’s my opinion:

    Philosophy of the detached meditator:
    I’d like to help others, but I can’t do that until I help myself first.
    By blocking out the feelings of the outside, I can better focus so
    that I will improve. As I improve, I will be able to connect with
    the collective and humanity in a more loving way.

    Philosophy of the psychopath:
    Why would I want to help others? Would doing so be an advantage to me
    in some way? How can exploit others for my personal gain?
    I don’t need to block out the feelings of others, because I don’t
    understand them, and moreover they are irrelevant and unimportant to me.

    The difference here is that while the detached spiritual types
    disconnect from the emotions of others, they still have a conscience.
    They still realize on deeper level how things affect others emotionally.
    They have compassion for others, and when need be, they can share and
    empathize with the feeling of others. Moreover, even while separated and
    detached, usually an overriding love in a higher sense for all of humanity is present–no such feelings are present in that of a psychopath.

    There’s a big difference between using a calculator for efficient number-crunching,
    and someone who uses a calculator because they don’t actually possess any
    arithmetic skills.

    Best,
    Steven

    January 25, 2008 at 2:20 am #27142
    Steven
    Moderator

    The title of this post being my personal favorite explanation of
    insanity . . .

    What is desperation?

    It is an intense combination of sorrow and fear.

    Left unchecked it leads to insanity.

    Of course this explanation applies only to insanity that
    developed from someone not originally insane, so the following
    discussion is, in some sense, academic.

    Assuming that psychotic behavior is a “learned” trait, rather
    than a “born” trait . . .

    Here’s a quick theory I just came up with regarding your
    comment about the kidney spirit being cut off:

    After a period of time, left unchecked, the intense
    combination of sorrow and fear, i.e. desperation, damages or
    interferes with the energetic connection between the lungs and
    kidneys. The kidneys feeling unsupported in the creation cycle,
    contract and withdraw from interaction with the other vital organ
    spirits. Fear retreats and buries within the kidneys, while all
    communication shuts down.

    The person becomes unnaturally fearless toward all actions.
    Simultaneously, the heart which is no longer cooled by the
    kidney water, enflames . . . fueling arrogance and self-centeredness,
    while killing compassion for others. You end up with a
    fearless individual with no compassion for others fueled
    by a joyful self-centeredness, i.e. a psychopath.

    Of course, this all assumes that you began with someone that
    wasn’t a psychopath to start with. If the article
    is to be taken at face value, and psychopaths are born and
    not made as the article seems to imply, then all bets are off.

    Steven

    January 25, 2008 at 2:06 pm #27144
    Dog
    Participant

    I think in a since yes. But often I see them feeling strog emtions then later on trying to become psycopathic, vs having done so at a young age. THere might besome that use certain tools to increase there detachment, so they just become more of a refined psychopath. I think relationships, and living in the word is much harder on some, then hours of meditation.

    January 25, 2008 at 2:09 pm #27146
    Dog
    Participant

    I would be interesting to see if there ae moer male psycopaths.

    January 29, 2008 at 3:15 pm #27148
    Dog
    Participant

    It is interesting to see how cetain institutional desighns. Create a Psychopathic effect. THus the importance of protest, just incase the people are not Psychopathic but just the institutions create that detachment.

    I have a feeling a weak inner earth(Yi) mixed with a over barring Hun, might cause such a thing. Ofcourse a under lying lean tword the heaven side of the soul might predispose some one to this issue. All the different lvls seem to just imitate what is going on at the soul lvl. The Hun is also connectd to the Thoracic diaphragm right?

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