February 9, 2018 at 7:29 am #51686
New MC book will be published soon …
Best, JoxFebruary 9, 2018 at 8:06 am #51689
I would be interested to hear from any practitioner who is now immortal, and how they know they are immortal.February 9, 2018 at 3:55 pm #51691
Yeah, I think there must be some written criteria to be recognized as an immortal … just saying, lol … 😉 , but anyway… , simplified formulas / manual is a great idea … 🙂
February 9, 2018 at 4:02 pm #51693
- This reply was modified 1 week, 4 days ago by Jox.
I am not sure, but I think, if I remember right, that MW wrote about to do the same thing … all the formulas in one book/manual … but I am not sure when that is going to happen?February 9, 2018 at 5:40 pm #51694
The question is does anybody know if it works, and can they speak about it.
It’s easy to write a book about formulas that don’t work and that nobody ever succeeded with.February 13, 2018 at 10:00 pm #51710
Sorry but in this Castaneda book there are some very interesting remarks to quite advanced energy practices.
The power that governs the destiny of all living beings is called the Eagle, not because it is an eagle or has anything to do with an eagle, but because it appears to the seer as an immeasurable jet-black eagle, standing erect as an eagle stands; its height reaching to infinity.As the seer gazes on the blackness that the Eagle is, four blazes of light reveal what the Eagle is like.
The first blaze, which is like a bolt of lightning, helps the seer make out the contours of the Eagle’s body. There are patches of whiteness that look like an eagle’s feathers and talons.
A second blaze of lightning reveals the flapping, wind-creating blackness that looks like an eagle’s wings.
With the third blaze of lightning, the seer beholds a piercing, inhuman eye.
The fourth and last blaze discloses what the Eagle is doing…
The Eagle is devouring the awareness of all the creatures that a moment before were alive on earth, are now dead, and have floated to the Eagle’s beak like a ceaseless swarm of fireflies to meet their owner; this being their reason for having had life.
The Eagle disentangles these tiny flames, lays them flat like a tanner stretches out a hide, and then consumes them; for awareness is the Eagle’s food.
The Eagle- the power that governs the destinies of all living things- reflects equally and at once all those living things.
There is no way, therefore, for man to pray to the Eagle, to ask favors, or to hope for grace. The human part of the Eagle is too insignificant to move the whole.
It is only from the Eagle’s actions that a seer can tell what it wants. The Eagle, although it is not moved by the circumstances of any living thing, has granted a gift to each of those beings.
In those beings’ own way, and by right, any one of them, if it so desires, has the power to keep the flame of awareness; the power to disobey the summons to ‘die and be consumed’.
Every living thing has been granted the power, if it so desires, to seek an opening to freedom and to go through it. It is evident to the seer who sees the opening, and to the creatures that go through it, that the Eagle has granted that gift in order to perpetuate awareness.
For the purpose of guiding living things to that opening, the Eagle created the Nagual. The Nagual is a double being to whom the rule has been revealed.
Whether the Nagual be in the form of a human being, an animal, a plant, or anything else that lives; the Nagual by virtue of its doubleness is drawn to seek that hidden passageway.
In human beings, the Nagual comes in pairs; male and female. A double man and a double woman become the Nagual only after the rule has been told to each of them, and each of them has understood it and accepted it in full.
To the eye of the seer, a Nagual man or Nagual woman appears as a luminous egg with four compartments.
Unlike the average human being who has two sides only- a left and a right- the Nagual has a left side divided into two long sections, and a right side equally divided in two.
The Eagle created the first Nagual man and Nagual woman as seers and immediately put them in the world to see.
The Eagle provided them with four female warriors who were stalkers; three male warriors; and one male courier- whom the Nagual pair were to nourish, enhance, and lead to freedom.
The female warriors are called the four directions; the four corners of a square; the four moods; the four winds; and are the four different female personalities that exist in the human race.
The first is the east. She is called order. She is optimistic, light-hearted, smooth, and persistent; like a steady breeze.
The second is the north. She is called strength. She is resourceful, blunt, direct, and tenacious; like a hard wind.
The third is the west. She is called feeling. She is introspective, remorseful, cunning, and sly; like a cold gust of wind.
The fourth is the south. She is called growth. She is nurturing, loud, shy, and warm; like a hot wind.
The three male warriors and the courier are representative of the four types of male activity and temperament.
The first type is the knowledgeable man; the scholar; a noble, dependable, and serene man fully dedicated to accomplishing his task, whatever it may be.
The second type is the man of action; highly volatile, and a great humorous, fickle companion.
The third type is the organizer behind the scenes: the mysterious, unknowable man. Nothing can be said about him because he allows nothing about himself to slip out.
The courier is the fourth type. He is the assistant; a taciturn, somber man who does very well if properly directed, but who cannot stand on his own.
In order to make things easier, the Eagle showed the Nagual man and Nagual woman that each of these types among men and women of the earth has specific features in their luminous bodies.
The scholar has a sort of shallow dent; a bright depression at his solar plexus. In some men it appears as a pool of intense luminosity; sometimes smooth and shiny like a mirror without a reflection.
The man of action has some fibers emanating from the area of the will. The number of fibers varies from one to five, and their size ranges from a mere string to a thick, whiplike tentacle up to eight feet long. Some men of action have as many as three of these fibers developed into tentacles.
The man behind the scenes is recognized not by a feature, but by his ability to create, quite involuntarily, a burst of power that effectively blocks the attention of seers. When in the presence of this type of man, seers find themselves immersed in extraneous detail rather than seeing.
The assistant has no obvious configuration. To seers he appears as a clear glow in a flawless shell of luminosity.
In the female realm, the east is recognized by the almost imperceptible blotches in her luminosity; something like small areas of discoloration.
The north has an overall radiation. She exudes a reddish glow, almost like heat.
The west has a tenuous film enveloping her, a film which makes her appear darker than the others.
The south has an intermittent glow; she shines for a moment and then gets dull, only to shine again.
The Nagual man and the Nagual woman have two different movements in their luminous bodies. Their right sides wave, while their left sides whirl.
In terms of personality, the Nagual man is supportive, steady, unchangeable. The Nagual woman is a being at war and yet relaxed; ever aware but without strain. Both of them reflect the four types of their sex; as four ways of behaving.
The first command that the Eagle gave the Nagual man and Nagual woman was to find, on their own, another set of four female warriors, four directions, who were the exact replicas of the stalkers but who were dreamers.
Dreamers appear to a seer as having an apron of hairlike fibers at their midsections. Stalkers have a similar apronlike feature, but instead of fibers the apron consists of countless small, round protuberances.
The eight female warriors are divided into two bands, which are called the right and left planets. The right planet is made up of four stalkers, the left of four dreamers. The warriors of each planet were taught by the Eagle the rule of their specific task: stalkers were taught stalking; dreamers were taught dreaming.
The two female warriors of each direction live together. They are so alike that they mirror each other, and only through impeccability can they find solace and challenge in each other’s reflection.
The only time when the four dreamers or four stalkers get together is when they have to accomplish a strenuous task.
But only under special circumstances should the four of them join hands because their touch fuses them into one being. This should be done only in cases of dire need, or at the moment of leaving this world.
The two female warriors of each direction are attached to one of the males, in any combination that is necessary. Thus they make a set of four households which are capable of incorporating as many warriors as needed.
The male warriors and the courier can also form an independent unit of four men, or each can function as a solitary being as dictated by necessity.
Next the Nagual and his party were commanded to find three more couriers. These could be all males or all females or a mixed set, but the male couriers had to be of the fourth type of man, the assistant, and the females had to be from the south.
In order to make sure that the first Nagual man would lead his party to freedom and not deviate from that path or become corrupted, the Eagle took the Nagual woman to the other world to serve as a beacon, guiding the party to the opening.
The Nagual and his warriors were then commanded to forget.
They were plunged into darkness and were given new tasks; the task of remembering themselves, and the task of remembering the Eagle.
The command to forget was so great that everyone was separated. They did not remember who they were. The Eagle intended that if they were capable of remembering themselves again, they would find the totality of themselves.
Only then would they have the strength and forebearance necessary to seek and face their definitive journey.
Their last task, after they had regained the totality of themselves, was to get a new pair of double beings and transform them into a new Nagual man and a new Nagual woman by virtue of revealing the rule to them.
And just as the first Nagual man and Nagual woman had been provided with a minimal party, they had to supply the new pair of Naguals with four female warriors who were stalkers, three male warriors, and one male courier.
When the first Nagual and his party were ready to go through the passageway, the first Nagual woman was waiting to guide them.
They were ordered then to take the new Nagual woman with them to the other world to serve as a beacon for her people, leaving the new Nagual man in the world to repeat the cycle.
While in the world, the minimal number under a Nagual’s leadership is sixteen: eight female warriors, three male warriors, four couriers, and the Nagual himself.
At the moment of leaving the world when the new Nagual woman is with them, the Nagual’s number is seventeen. If his personal power permits him to have more warriors, then more must be added in multiples of four.February 14, 2018 at 7:12 am #51713
What a load of crap.
People are so sucked in by these tall tales, just the same as they are sucked in by a book of formulae for enlightenment.
What is the goddam problem with just (a) speaking in normal simple english about these things and (b) saying how you know if they work, (c) providing actionable information.
The Indian sages did that, they were simple straight and said only what they themselves had done.
All this Western crap is a middle class hobby for people who are not interested, they are only interested to amuse themselves whilst they watch themselves die.February 15, 2018 at 2:42 pm #51717
…speaking in normal simple english about these things…
This was said repeatedly to James when he represented his new literal experiment to others.
…what a load of crap…
Not really. One should really be aware if one is simply not enough familiar with this material.
… a middle class hobby for people …
Joyce persisted, but it’s true that he was quite heavily financially dependent from person with more practical aims.
HOWDYFebruary 15, 2018 at 3:23 pm #51718
Well C.Howdy I don’t know who you are but you are kidding yourself if you think you are making progress.
You have a mind full of eclectic garbage and nothing else.February 15, 2018 at 4:51 pm #51719
“Those other parts of me that I had left for ever below the Abyss must serve as a vehicle for the energies which had been created by my act. My mind and body, deprived of the ego which they had hitherto obeyed, were now free to manifest according to their nature in the world, to devote themselves to aid mankind in its evolution.”
–Confessions, chapter 66
“Thou shalt mingle thy life with the universal life. Thou shalt keep not back one drop.”
–Liber Cheth vel Vallum Abiegni, line 3
“…It is attained by the resolve of the Adeptus Exemptus to surrender all that he has and is for ever. It is an annihilation of all the bonds that compose the self or constitute the Cosmos, a resolution of all complexities into their elements…”
–One Star in Sight
“[There] are the Black Brothers, that cry: I am I, they that deny Love, restricting it to their own Nature.”
–Liber Aleph, chapter 157February 16, 2018 at 7:35 am #51721
Nice quotesFebruary 16, 2018 at 5:22 pm #51722
…(a) speaking in normal simple english about these things and (b) saying how you know if they work, (c) providing actionable information…
Yes. it’s the Mormon Church (not temple)!
HOWDYFebruary 19, 2018 at 5:22 pm #51728
Sorry for my broken English..
..the question is does anybody know if it works, and can they speak about it…
Mostly one should keep this kind of things totally secret.
…it’s easy to write a book about formulas that don’t work and that nobody ever succeeded with…
It’s not very easy and to make an effort to write a book without proper financial reward is total waste of time.
…it’s the Mormon Church…
Or actually a meeting house where you can have also that kind of very casual conversations.
By the way can one take seriously for example all this Star Wars force powers?
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons) uses the term “meetinghouse” for the building where congregations meet for weekly worship services, recreational events, and social gatherings.
In the Latter Day Saint movement, a temple is a building dedicated to be a house of God and is reserved for special forms of worship. A temple differs from a church meetinghouse, which is used for weekly worship services.
In the LDS Church, congregations for Sunday services are grouped geographically, with larger (roughly 150 to 400 people) groups known as wards, and smaller (2 to about 150 people) ones, known as branches. The congregations gather in meetinghouses, also referred to as “chapels” or “stake centers,” on property that is typically owned by the church. In some cases, rental property may be used as a meetinghouse. Although the building may sometimes be referred to as a “chapel,” the room that is used as a chapel for religious services is actually only one component of the standard meetinghouse.
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