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  • July 28, 2006 at 10:40 pm #15850
    snowlion
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    The Taoist Path

    The Taoist secret of longevity is to follow the nature of things, a sensitivity and skillobtained by minute concentration on the Tao running through natural objects of all kinds. This knowledge and skill cannot be handed down but is that all the men of
    old took with them when they died (Chuang Tzu)Through extolling the initiative comprehension and skillful handling of matter, the Taoist did make progress over the ages (for example, in alchemy) can be seen.

    Taoism, along with Confucianism, is one of the two major indigenous
    philosophical traditions that have shaped Chinese life for more than 2,000 years.
    In the broadest sense, a Taoist attitude towards life can be seen in the
    acceptance, yielding, joyful and compromising side of the Chinese character, an
    attitude that off sets and complements the moral and duty-conscious, austere and
    purposeful character of philosophy.

    The essential Quest of Taoism is how to gain, preserve, and increase the vital
    force through a realization of harmony. On the basis of the Asian concept of a
    concentric, well-ordered, and single universe. Confucianism built its’ wisdom of
    the order and functioning of human society in accordance with the Whole; and
    Taoism expressed the individual’s as well as the group 5 need of harmony with
    the perceptible and the imperceptible Great Order (Tao) in all variations of magic,
    religion, and mysticism. To live in harmony with the universal mechanism without
    intervention (wu-wei) anywhere is to preserve one’s energy.

    This preoccupation with the vital force is one reason for that lack of speculative
    thought distinctive of Taoism. Taoist mystics are poets, priests are technicians of
    the Esoteric’s, and thinkers are specialists in alchemy, ritual, or pharmacognosy.

    There are no theologians in the Western sense and few philosophers in the
    Buddhist sense. This accounts for the Taoist non-argumentaive & competing with
    Confucians and Buddhists in debate. This also accounts for the fact that among
    the highly developed religions, Taoism is the one with the least rationalization, in
    which the communication of man with the sacred appears in its most immediate
    and unreflective form.

    Yin and Yang are often referred to as two “breaths” (ch’i) Ch’i means air, breath,
    or vapor -originally the vapor arising from cooking cereals. It has also come to
    mean a cosmic energy. The Primordial Breath is a name of the chaos (state of
    Unity) in which the original life-force is not yet diversified into the phases that the concepts Yin and Yang describe.

    Every man has a portion of this primordial life-force allotted him at birth, and his
    task is not to dissipate it through the activity of his senses but to strengthen,
    control, and increase it in order to live out his full span of life.
    You can heal the sickness in your body by the power of your own mind. Energize
    your body by sweeping it from ,top to toe with positive thought vibrations.
    And when your mind is weak, transform it by the action of your In dwelling spirit.

    Human being is unity-in-trinity, he is a Unity of Body, Mind and Spirit.
    You are a spirit dwelling in a body. You are eternal and will never die. The spirit is the real you, Tao’s ‘breath” becomes the ‘breath’ of life’ for man, by which we can infer that man is really a spirit dwelling in a body. You can also infer that the spirit of man is in unity with Tao. Man’s spirit is connected to the body by a ‘silver cords and when this “cord’ is severed, physical death occurs. The spirit gives life to the body.

    Thus, you can overcome the fear of death by living in the spirit and remembering
    your unity with Tao By the action of the spirit, you can renew your mind, heal your body of sickness, and transform your life. Do this through spiritual disciplines,
    Recite daily: I am spirit, I am spirit dwelling in a body. I am eternal. I am peace.
    You are what you think, because the mind controls your body and your life.
    Tao is the natural heritage of man, but, in the majority of cases, that heritance has
    been set aside by other interests. This quest of Tao may, and must, be
    undertaken, if men are to regain that tranquillity, that complete contentment,
    which can never be acquired by the worldly-minded. The steps in the process are
    similar to those which are the common places of mystics generally.

    (1) The first stage is purgation. As Lao Tzu says, “Only one who is eternally
    free from earthly passions can apprehend the spiritual essence of Tao.
    Chuang-tzu says of the sages, or perfect men, “They wear the forms of men, but
    are without human passions.” The process is a long and painful one, and Lieh-tzu
    Ilicius) is represented as telling an ambitious disciple of his own experiences as a
    novice, when for the space of three years his Master did not design to bestow a
    glance on him, and nine years passed before he attained that inner unity which
    was his aim. “I have not yet succeeded in cleansing my heart of impurities and
    discarding wisdom,” is the confession of a professed teacher, who failed to
    achieve such harmony with Tao as would have enabled him to overcome the
    opposition of material laws.

    (2) The second stage is illumination, when virtue requires no longer a
    conscious effort, but becomes an unconscious habit. Lao Tzu constantly
    deprecated the interested ‘virtue’ of his own times, when the would-be ‘virtuous’
    were characterized by acute self-consciousness and were actuated by mercenary
    motives.

    (3) Many instances are given of the third stage. when an inner unity is attained,
    notably by Lieh Tzu (3rd century B-C) e.g., that of Shang Ch’iu K’ai, who thus
    explained his extraordinary independence of natural laws; “My mind was simply
    One, and material objects thus offered no resistance. That is all”; and Tzu Hsia,
    who said: “The man who have harmony with Tao enters into close unison with
    eternal objects, and none of them has the power to harm or hinder him.”
    This is the goal of Taoist ambition, viz. to attain to such an unconscious harmony
    with nature as to become the unresisting vehicle of Tao, and partake of its
    properties which render the Taoist immune from the limitations which are imposed
    upon the uninitiated by the laws of matter, space, and time. This third stage
    included also that independence of external aids which is expressed by Lao Tzu
    in the words, “without going out of doors, one may know the whole world,” etc.
    In the broadest sense, a Taoist attitude toward life can be seen in the accepting
    and yielding, the joyful and carefree sides of the Chinese character, and attitude
    that offsets and complements the moral and duty-conscious, austere and
    purposeful character ascribed to Confucianism.

    Taoism is also characterized by a positive, active attitude toward the esoteric and the metaphysical (theories on the nature of reality) whereas the agnostic, pragmatic Confucian tradition considers these issues of only marginal importance although the reality of such issues is, by most Confucians, not denied.

    More strictly defined, Taoism includes: the ideas and attitudes peculiar to Lao Tzu
    (or Tao Te Ching; “Classic of the Way of Power), the Chuang Tzu, the Lieh Tzu,
    and related writings; the Taoist religion, which is concerned with the ritual worship
    of the Tao; and those who identify themselves as Taoists.
    Taoist thought permeates Chinese culture, including many aspects not usually
    considered Taoist. In Chinese religion, the Taoist tradition – often serving as a link between the Confucian tradition and folk tradition – has generally been more popular and spontaneous than the official (Confucian) state cult and less diffuse and shapeless than folk religion.

    Taoist philosophy has found the way into all Vietnam, Japan, and Korea. Various
    religious practices reminiscent of Taoism in such areas of Chinese cultural
    influence indicated early contacts with Chinese travelers and immigrants that
    have yet to be elucidated.

    There is also a tendency among scholars today to draw a less rigid line between
    what is called Taoist and what is called Confucian. The two traditions share many
    of the same ideas about man, society, the ruler, Heaven, and the universe ideas
    that were not created by either school but that stem from a tradition prior to either
    Confucius or Lao Tzu.

    Viewed from this common tradition, orthodox Confucianism limited its field of
    interest to the creation of a moral and political system that fashioned society and
    the Chinese empire; whereas Taoism, inside the same world view, represented
    more personal and metaphysical preoccupation’s.

    The aged Taoist sage became a saint because he had been able to cultivate
    himself throughout a long existence; his longevity in itself was the proof of his
    saintliness and union with the Tao. Eternally he had a healthy, flourishing
    appearance and inside he contained an ever-flowing source of energy that
    manifested itself in radiance and in a powerful, beneficial influence on his
    surroundings, which is the charismatic efficacy (Te) of the Tao.

    The mystic insight of Chuang Tzu made him scorn those who strove for longevity
    and immortality through physiological practices. Nevertheless, physical
    immortality was a Taoist goal probably long before and alongside the unfolding of
    Taoist mysticism. The adept of immortality had a choice among many methods
    that were all intended to restore the pure energies possessed at birth by the infant
    whose perfect vital force Lao Tzu admire.

    Through these methods, the adept became an immortal (hsien) who lived 1,000
    years in this world if he so chose and, once satiated with life, “ascended to
    heaven in broad daylight.” This was the final apotheosis of the Taoist who had
    transformed his body into pure Yang energy Taoists prefer to convey their ecstatic insights in images and parables.

    The Tao is low and receiving as a valley, soft and life-giving as water, and it is the “mysterious female,” the source of all life, the Mother of the Ten Thousand
    Beings. Man should become weak and yielding as water that overcomes the hard
    and the strong and always takes the low ground; he should develop his male and
    female sides but “prefer femininity.” “feed on the mother,” and find within himself
    the well that never runs dry.

    Tao is also the axis, the ridgepole, the pivot, and the empty center of the hub. The
    sage is the “useless tree” or the huge gourd too large to be fashioned into
    implements. A frequent metaphor for the working of the Tao is the
    incommunicable ability to be skillful at a craft. The skilled artisan does not ponder
    on his action, but, in union with the Tao of his subject, he does his work reflexively and without conscious intent.

    Much ancient Chinese mythology has been preserved by the Taoists, who drew
    on R to illustrate their views. A ‘chaos’ (hun-tun) myth is recorded as a metaphor
    for the undifferentiated primal unity, the mythical emperors (.Huang Ti and others)
    are extolled for wise Taoist rule or blamed for introducing harmful civilization.
    Dreams of mythical paradises and journeys on clouds and flying dragons are
    metaphors for the wanderings of the soul, the attainment of the Tao, and the
    identity of dream and reality.

    Taoists have transformed and adapted some ancient myths to their beliefs. Thus,
    the Queen Mother of the West (Hsi Wang Mu), who was a mountain spirit,
    pestilence goddess, and tigress, became a high deity – the Fairy Queen of all
    immortals Long life and the vital force were common concerns of all Taoist traditions andinseparable from saintliness. The original still of the infant or even the embryonicstate in which the vital force is still perfectly concentrated and undiminished was
    the ideal of the mystics, who sought it in trance, as well as developed countless
    formulas and practices to restore the infant’s complete Yang energy to the
    physical body.
    This effort, however, made them shift away from the classical ideal of adaptation
    to the course of nature and attempt a reversal of the natural flow toward death.
    Thus, the ideal of
    Yin and Yang as complementary, which implied the alienation of life and death,
    changed into a desire for the victory of life-giving Yang over Yin.
    For the ancient Chinese in general, spirit and matter formed a continuum of more
    or less rarefied or crude vital energies, deriving from Heaven and Earth. Man was
    believed to be composed of several kinds of vital energies, to which the Western
    dichotomy of spiritual and material is not particularly relevant. The techniques of
    longevity were intended to prevent this scattering of these energies, which would
    result in death. They also sought to refine the coarse, perishable energies and
    transform the heavy mortal body into a light immortal one.
    The Chinese ideogram for “immortal” (hsien) depicts a man and a mountain,
    suggesting a hermit; the older form of hsien, however, shows a man dancing
    around, flapping his sleeves like wings. To become immortal is to be “transformed
    Into a feathered being.” Image comes from the mythology of eastern Chinese
    tribes who claimed bird ancestors, worshipped bird deities, and held religious rites
    with bird dances performed on stilts. The affinity of the Taoist immortals to birds
    (crane, phoenix, magpie, stork, or raven) is a persistent theme in iconography and
    legend.
    There are many categories of immortals. The highest are those who “ascend to
    heaven in broad daylight.”
    There are also those who live in terrestrial paradises (on holy mountains or
    islands) for centuries without growing old and later appear disguised in this world
    to transmit their immortality formulas and magical powers to worthy adepts. Lower
    immortals do not reach paradise before dying and apparent death (shih chieh),
    leaving their sandals or their canes in the coffins to take on the appearance of
    their corpses.
    The techniques of longevity, the detailed of which correspondence between the
    human microcosm and the macrocosm are at the basis of all techniques to
    “nourish the vital force” (yang-hsing). The communication between the five inner
    organs (lungs corresponding to metal, heart to fire, spleen to the earth, liver to
    wood, and kidneys to water), all other body organs, and the outer world proceeds
    through the orifices (nose for the lungs, ears for the heart, mouth for the spleen,
    eyes for the liver, and the lower orifices for the kidneys). All these orifices are
    passageways for entry and exit of vital forces and have to be closely guarded.
    Because the orifices are sense organs and desires result in loss of vital force, the
    senses have to be carefully kept in balance lest disease be caused through over
    indulgence in any one of the corresponding desires.
    All dietary regimens are intended to nourish the respective organs in right
    proportions with foods and medicinal herbs containing the energy (ch’i)
    corresponding in quality to their respective elements. A preliminary step in diet in
    complete abstinence from all cereals in order to starve and kill the “three worms”,
    or the “three corpses,” which are malefecent demons inside the body that work to
    hasten its decomposition.
    In order to make all energies in the body reach their proper place and to maintain
    a continuous circulatory process, the adept practices “gymnastics” and “Body
    building” called “to conduct (the breath) and to stretch” (or to attract it to its proper
    place, Tao Yin).
    Chuang Tzu stated that ordinary people breathe through the throat but the saint
    breathes through the whole body, starting from the heels. The Taoist breathes not
    only atmospheric air but solar, lunar, and the directions, guiding the green
    emanation of the east to the liver, the red emanation of the south to the heart, and
    so on.
    Others inhale the emanations of dawn in spring, of noon in summer, of dusk in
    autumn, and so on. Others warn against the practice of this discipline in the latter
    part of the day, because the universe exhales dead air from noon to midnight.
    Another method taught how to “feed on air” by retaining breath and conducting it
    throughout the body. One who could hold this breath for the time of 1,000
    respiration’s would become immortal.
    This inner breath was viewed as man’s share of the primordial life breath
    contained In the lower of the three “cinnabar (mercuric sulfide fields” of the body
    centers located in the head, chest, and abdomen). This life breath is conducted,
    in a closed circuit like that of the embryo, through the body and directed by means
    of the “inner sight” (nei-kuan), an inward turned vision of the eyes (considered a
    source of light). In case of sickness, the inner breath is conducted to the diseased
    organ and heals it.
    The first sacred text of Taoism (3rd century AD), mentions the ability of the interior
    vision to discern the gods residing in the five organs. Books like the Classic of the
    Yellow Court owe their popularity to the enumeration of thousands of gods in all
    parts of the body, the same gods as those residing in the macrocosm.
    Meditation establishes communication with these gods, either by making the
    external gods descend and visit their organs in the body and fortify it or by
    externalizing the inner gods disposing them in a mandala (a symbol of the
    universe) around oneself The latter practice is a preparation of religious
    ceremonies and recitation of sacred texts.
    The sexual techniques of the ‘inner chamber’ (fang chung) go back to antiquity.
    Their aim was to secure vitality, longevity, and male progeny. Specifically Taoist
    practices were the ‘Way of the Yin” of the immortal Yung-ch’eng, a technique -to
    make the semen return and repair the brain” (huan ching pu nao). This technique
    consisted in the prevention of ejaculation during the sexual act and was thought
    to make the semen (ching, a potent mixture of all physical energies) circulate –
    mixed with breath – through the body from the lower to the upper ‘cinnabar field”,
    there to vitalize the brain.
    Immortals are often depicted with a huge skull that is the storeroom of their Yang
    energy. Another idea was to blend seminal essence with breath in the “lower
    cinnabar field’ and there to form the “mysterious embryo” of the new real body.
    For the ‘repairing of the brain,” the male adept also needed to absorb as much a
    possible of female Yin essence (and vice versa). It was therefore desirable to
    have intercourse with a succession of partners. This led to the much’ communal
    “union of breaths” (ho ch’i), a highly ritualized ceremony that might have
    resembled more a group ordeal than an orgy.)
    The abstention from ejaculation exists equally in Tantric practices, which were
    known to the Taoists since T’ng’s times or earlier. As in Tantrism, the sexual
    terminology refers also to mental operations because only thought processes can
    make semen and breath circulate and ‘marry’ to thus create the immortal man.
    Chuang Tzu’s descriptions of the indescribable Tao, as well as of those who have
    attained union with the Tao, are invariably poetic. The perfect man has identified
    his life rhythm so completely with the rhythm of the forces of nature that he has
    become indistinguishable from them and shares their immortality and infinity,
    which is above the cycle of ordinary life and death. He is “pure spirit”. “He feels
    neither the heat of the brush lands afire nor the cold of the waters in flood”,
    nothing can startle or frighten him.
    Not that he is magically invulnerable (as the adepts of physical immortality would
    have it), but he is “so cautious in shunning and approaching, that nothing can do
    him injury.”
    “A man’s life thus rides the clouds as his carriages and the sun and moon as his
    steeds.” The theme of the spiritual wandering (vuan yu), which can be traced
    back to the shamanistic soul journey, crops up wherever Chuang Tzu speaks of
    the perfect man.
    Those who let themselves be borne away by the unadulterated energies of
    Heaven and Earth and can harness the six composite energies to roam through
    the limitless, whatever need they henceforth depend on’. These wanderings are
    journey’s within oneself; they are roaming through the infinite in ecstasy.
    Transcending the ordinary distinctions of things and one with the Tao, “the Perfect
    Man has no self; the Holy Man has no merit, the Sage has no fame.” He lives
    inconspicuously among men, and whatever applies to the Tao applies to him.
    Dietary and breathing techniques can prolong life so as to give time for the
    preparation of the elixir of immortality, which was composed of cinnabar (tan, for
    its red, or Yang, color and it transmutability) and gold (chin, for its incorruptibility).
    Alchemy evolved early in connection with metallurgy. The patron of alchemy was
    the Yellow Emperor (Huang Ti), who ascended to Heaven after the casting of a
    sacred metal crucible. This legend is alluded to in the alchemical
    recommendations given by Li Shao Chun, a 2nd century, BC alchemist, to the
    emperor Han Wu Ti, the earliest known reference to alchemy in any literature of
    East or West.
    Later, Taoist alchemists sought to produce liquid gold and pure (nine times
    transmuted) cinnabar, or a combination of both in an “elixir of immortality”.
    The practice of the techniques of immorality was restricted to the affluent and
    educated few.
    The pantheon, ritual, and moral codes, as well as the theocratic organization of
    the early
    Taoist temple bear much closer similarly to the Imperial and Confucian ideologies
    than to
    Buddhism. Folk Taoism came to be deeply influenced by the Buddhist beliefs in
    reincarnation and punishment in hells.
    The legendary first celestial master, Chang Tao-Ling was a magician and faith
    healer. His descendants evolved into a hierarchy of priests who treated the sick
    by ritual and prayer, using charmed water and talismans. Because disease was
    believed to be caused by sin, the sick were sent to “pure (or calm) houses” in
    order to repent and to recite to the Tao Te Ching. They also were supposed to
    make amends by doing public works, such as road building.
    The moral code was based on the Tao Te Ching, of which Thai Seong Loh Khoon
    (that is, Lao Tzu defied) became the divine reveler. Moral conduct was rewarded
    with health and long life; immorality caused sickness, premature death, and
    according to later text; suffering in hell.
    Taoism, distinguishes itself from Western mysticism by its conscious techniques
    and to give access to mystical experience. These disciplines of learning to “sit in
    forgetfulness” are akin to Plotinus “concern to be deaf to the words of senses and
    to keep the soul’s faculty of apprehension one-pointed.” Where the soul is fully
    awake as regards Tao, but wholly asleep as regards things of this world and in
    respect of himself’
    In the way of the Celestial Masters, first developed in the mountains of the
    province of
    Szechwan. There, a certain Cheng Tao-Ling, in AD 142, is said to have received
    a revelation
    from Thai Seong Loh Koon (Lord Lao the most High). The deified Lao Tzu
    bestowed on Chang his “orthodox and sole doctrine of the authority of the covenant” (Cheng Meng-WeiFa), meant as a definitive replacement lapsed into demonism and degeneracy.

    The Mao Shan revelations of the most brilliant synthesis of the Way of the
    Celestial Masters with the indigenous traditions were the principal beneficiaries of
    an extensive new Taoist revelation. Furthermore, building upon the way of the
    celestial Masters, the Mao Shan revelations envisaged some reform of the
    practices of the parent sect. Its sexual rites in particular were stigmatized as
    inferior practices, more conducive to perdition than to salvation. Other rituals of
    the Celestial Master were allowed to continue in use among the Mao Shan adepts
    but were relegated to a subordinate position. Thus, the movement did not reject
    but rather incorporated and transcended the older tradition.

    According to Chuang-Tzu there is a very special class of spiritualized being. They
    share none of the anxieties of ordinary folk and have the smooth, untroubled
    faces of children. These “supreme man”, or “perfect men”, are immune to the
    effects of the elements, untouched by heat and cold.
    They possess the power of flight and are described as mounting upward with a
    fluttering (hsien) motion. Their effortless existence was the ultimate in autonomy,
    the natural spontaneity that Chuang Tzu ceaselessly applauds. These striking
    portraits may have been intended to be allegorical, but whatever their original
    meaning, these immortals (hsien), as they came to be called, were to become the
    center of great interest.

    The pure literary descriptions of their freedom, their breathtaking mobility, and
    their agelessness were construed as practical objectives by later generations. By
    a variety of practices, men attempted to attain these qualities in their own
    persons, and in time Chuang Tzu’s unfettered paragons of liberty were to see
    themselves classified according to kind and degree in a hierarchy of the heavenly
    hosts.
    Ko Hung, the author of Pao-pu-tzu – “He Who Holds to Simplicity” stressed that all
    known
    Immortals had themselves once been men and so their state must be attainable
    by men today.

    The essentials are a good teacher and tireless perseverance. To mineral elixirs
    he accorded a place above all other means of attaining everlasting life.
    Long narratives containing descriptions of the stages and methods by which they
    had achieved perfection through midnight interviews with the visionary.
    One of the most complex and interesting phenomena in Chinese religions history
    is Lao Tzu’s advancement from sage to God.

    A scroll found in the walled up deserted library at Tan-Luang, the Book of the Transformations of Lao Tzu (Lao-Tzu Pien – Hua Ching) shows him in cosmic perspective, omnipresent andomnipotent, the origin of all life. His human manifestations are listed, followed by his successive role in legendary history, as the sage was counselor of emperors.

    Next, five of his more recent appearances are mentioned, dated AD 132-155, and
    localized in West China, where a temple is said to have dedicated to him in 185
    AD. Then the God speaks, to describe his own powers. He recommends to his
    votaries the recitation of “My book in 5,000 words” (Tao Te Ching) and enjoins a
    meditation on his own divine attributes as they appear within the adept’s body.
    Finally, he calls upon the faithful to join him, now, when he is about to strike at the tottering rule of the Han dynasty.

    July 29, 2006 at 2:22 am #15851
    matblack
    Participant

    >>Man’s spirit is connected to the body by a ‘silver cords and when this “cord’ is severed, physical death occurs. <<

    is anyone able to elaborate on this cord?

    i've heard it mentioned before from an indian perspective.
    is it something like an umbilical cord for the spirit in this dimension ?

    July 29, 2006 at 11:28 am #15853
    Nnonnth
    Participant

    Magicians talk about this cord alot, as the connector between the astral and physical bodies. If you search the site at the end of this post you will find alot about it. It is from a western Hermetic perspective but don’t let that deter you, I am sure the source is trustworthy. Incidentally, the author of that site (Rawn Clark)says that there is another cord, the ‘violet cord’ connecting the mental and astral bodies.

    To sense these bodies, he recommends relaxing your physical body, moving your awareness out to your aura (astral body), and becoming aware of your mental body which is what is doing the sensing, then carefully integrating these. More on his site….

    Also thanks to Snowlion for a great link in those ‘What the f**k IS Taoism anyway?’ moments… NN

    Rawn Clark Hermetics

    July 29, 2006 at 2:18 pm #15855
    .freeform.
    Participant

    In the Huna (Hawaiian magick/spiritual system) tradition we also have cords connecting us to other people and places/objects.

    The cords are said to come from the solar plexus and can transfer energy back and forth. A great tip I learnt is to cut all your cords and connections after you raise your vibration through some powerfull practice and then reconnect again. So when you return to your day-to-day life – rather than your friends and familly dragging you back down, you tend to actually bring them up to a higher ‘vibration’.

    I also send smiling energy down these cords when doing the inner smile – untill the other person smiles back (then I either integrate them back into myself, or cut them off).

    July 29, 2006 at 2:38 pm #15857
    Nnonnth
    Participant

    Where do you get info on huna stuff then? NN

    July 29, 2006 at 3:18 pm #15859
    .freeform.
    Participant

    Huna’s fantastic – it’s very Taoist in its approach (more ‘atlantean’ than ‘lemurian’ (i.e. ‘higher’ first, ‘lower’ second – if you know what I mean) – but still very ‘pure’) – very much about balance, and creating harmony in your life and the lives of others.

    Have a good look through the site below for a decent introduction.

    http://www.ancienthuna.com

    July 29, 2006 at 4:09 pm #15861
    Alexander Alexis
    Participant

    Michael says that huna and daoism have the same actual roots – the Pleiades. VERY ancient.

    I like the cord thing you mention too. Sounds clean. Thanks. -A

    July 29, 2006 at 5:26 pm #15863
    .freeform.
    Participant

    Yeah Huna has all the same basics – 5 elements, 3 selves etc. I think Taoism (in general) has more info on the specifics of the body and Huna has more usefull information on the practicalities of life and shaping your reality. For me they go hand in hand pretty well. I’m trying to find a Huna master here.

    July 29, 2006 at 9:53 pm #15865
    matblack
    Participant

    one of my first teachers was trained under a huna on maui (spelling?)

    they seem very perceptive, the qi in hawaii must be pretty nice.

    about that cord, an old friend told me that connections are made during sex and a transer of energies occurs through the cord during the sex act. he told me ‘be careful who you have sex with, ’cause you can pick up a lot of psychic garbage through the cord’

    hmmmmm…..speaking of dental floss…………just joking

    July 30, 2006 at 5:00 pm #15867
    Alexander Alexis
    Participant

    When you have sex with another person you are aligning core channels with them. If your awareness and compatibility are good…Yay! But when you come together (no pun intended) with unconscious issues to resolve, you open yourself to the other’s energy field and karma at the deepest level possible…Yikes!

    I’ve been in both situations. I never learned so much in my life the hard way from the latter one. But then again, you have to trust your path.

    As far as Hawai’i goes, the energies there are unbelievable. Juicy and full, very intense. You’re surrounded by all that water! Amazingly beautiful. You can feel Lemuria easily. Kauai’i was my favorite island. Maui has an extinct volcano – Haleakala – which is like the Mother of all mother energy fields. If you get the chance, visit. But stay in your center. There is very powerful old energy/magic unresolved on those islands.

    July 31, 2006 at 12:17 am #15869
    matblack
    Participant

    thanks Alexander for elaborating on the sexual transmission.

    July 31, 2006 at 5:55 am #15871
    Nnonnth
    Participant

    – and that its route was different? I remember this from our last ’bout’… something about the back of the neck. Can you remind me? thanks NN

    July 31, 2006 at 11:20 am #15873
    .freeform.
    Participant

    yeah – in the Taoist orbit the back channel connects to the front channel through your palette and your tongue. That’s why you’re always asked to press the tip of your tongue to the top of the palette.

    In Huna the main breathing method suggests that the energy connects deeper in the throat. I’ve got a feeling now that their technique is more of a core channel work rather than the orbit. It’s called the Ha breath (I think it’s mentioned in the website I linked to). I find it more forced – One tends to inhale with a little force, hold a second and *let* the breath out with a haaa sound. I tend to exhale with a little force (just compressing the lungs through subtle body movement) hold for a sec and then let the breath come in, and without another break push the breath out. This is less energizing but feels more natural, and the break after the exhale is a magical little moment!

    To be honest I think the Taoist understanding of the microcosm of the body is more developed (perhaps only because the tradition has been ongoing for centuries – whereas praticing Huna was illegal untill the 70’s (if I’m not mistaken))

    So in terms of energetics I’m following the Taoist path – with many other things I’m following the Huna way. For example smiling to people through the cords, using the Aloha spirit – (it’s kind of like an ‘outer’ version of the ‘inner smile’) etc.

    July 31, 2006 at 11:48 am #15875
    Dog
    Participant

    My mother learned a similar method for a kahuna in Santa Fe New Mexico.

    July 31, 2006 at 12:42 pm #15877
    Nnonnth
    Participant
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