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The U.S. is now Criminally & Unconstitutionally at War, Obama MUST be Impeached or Violate Founding of Nation, red handed.

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Home › Forum Online Discussion › General › The U.S. is now Criminally & Unconstitutionally at War, Obama MUST be Impeached or Violate Founding of Nation, red handed.

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  • April 24, 2011 at 12:34 pm #37222
    ribosome777
    Participant

    just ask them!

    Obama 2007 to Boston Globe interviewer Charlie Savage:

    “The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation”


    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0d4_1301425721

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unilateral

    Definition of UNILATERAL

    1
    a : done or undertaken by one person or party
    b : of, relating to, or affecting one side of a subject : one-sided
    c : constituting or relating to a contract or engagement by which an express obligation to do or forbear is imposed on only one party

    2
    a : having parts arranged on one side
    b : occurring on, performed on, or affecting one side of the body or one of its parts

    3
    : unilineal

    4 having only one side

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0d4_1301425721

    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/03/27/Under-the-US-Supreme-Court-The-president-makes-war-in-Libya/UPI-93141301211000/

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-president-does-not-have-power-unde

    the 2007 Obama Q & A on why He Should now be Impeached:

    http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/specials/CandidateQA/ObamaQA/

    What Biden had to say about Bush doing the same thing!!!

    http://www.ihatethemedia.com/joe-biden-believes-president-obama-should-be-impeached-over-libyan-war

    Ralph Nader on Obama impeachment:

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ralph-nader-obama-should-be-impeached-for-committing-war-crimes/

    Time to Impeach Obama: What Happens if Extant Libyan Gov. ceases Fire?

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/51668.html

    why? verbatim line by line constitution:

    “Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 of the United States Constitution, sometimes referred to as the War Powers Clause, vests in the Congress the exclusive power to declare war, in the following wording:
    [Congress shall have Power…] To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_One_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Section_8:_Powers_of_Congress

    the President is Commander in Chief:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Two_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Section_2:_Presidential_powers

    the War Powers Act was put in place to determine what the President can do WITHOUT a congressional majority declaration of U.S. citizen “voted” war (implied emergency state):

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Clause

    the War Powers Act was put in place to determine what the President can do WITHOUT a congressional majority declaration of U.S. citizen “voted” war (implied emergency state):

    THE WHOLE POINT:

    what the war powers act says, verbatim, from Cornell:

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/50/usc_sec_50_00001541—-000-.html

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/50/usc_sec_50_00001542—-000-.html

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/50/usc_sec_50_00001543—-000-.html

    section 1541c:

    The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to
    (1) a declaration of war,
    (2) specific statutory authorization, or
    (3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.

    that’s it, that’s all there is, there has been 1) no declaration, 2) no authorization 3) no emergency and 4) (forthcoming) no substantiating report within 48 hours of action

    section 1542:

    The President in every possible instance shall consult with Congress before introducing United States Armed Forces into hostilities or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, and after every such introduction shall consult regularly with the Congress until United States Armed Forces are no longer engaged in hostilities or have been removed from such situations.

    the NO REPORT part, much less substantiation, much less Congressional review:

    section 1543:

    (a) Written report; time of submission; circumstances necessitating submission; information reported
    In the absence of a declaration of war, in any case in which United States Armed Forces are introduced—
    (1) into hostilities or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances;
    (2) into the territory, airspace or waters of a foreign nation, while equipped for combat, except for deployments which relate solely to supply, replacement, repair, or training of such forces; or
    (3) in numbers which substantially enlarge United States Armed Forces equipped for combat already located in a foreign nation;
    the President shall submit within 48 hours to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and to the President pro tempore of the Senate a report, in writing, setting forth—
    (A) the circumstances necessitating the introduction of United States Armed Forces;
    (B) the constitutional and legislative authority under which such introduction took place; and
    (C) the estimated scope and duration of the hostilities or involvement.
    (b) Other information reported
    The President shall provide such other information as the Congress may request in the fulfillment of its constitutional responsibilities with respect to committing the Nation to war and to the use of United States Armed Forces abroad.

    April 30, 2011 at 12:53 am #37223
    ribosome777
    Participant

    why is there NO sign of the bombings which NATO used as grounds for it’s assasination crusade?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L6vA0OIITc&feature=player_embedded

    THE lowest point in American history, next to a half million dead in 4 years to subjugate Africans:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/28/us-libya-usa-viagra-idUSTRE73R7N420110428

    a cheap trick from the petrol crew

    May 1, 2011 at 4:16 am #37225
    STALKER2002
    Participant
    May 1, 2011 at 6:09 am #37227
    wendy
    Participant

    I believe some of you guys are on the wrong forum and you still have not figured that out or you just don’t care at all?!!
    Seriously guys do you not have any other place to go to, it starts to be pretty boring and slightly annoying.
    Unless you can elaborate why Allah is so great in connection to a tornado, I might find some interest in having a DISCUSSION about it.

    Wendy

    May 1, 2011 at 7:06 am #37229
    STALKER2002
    Participant

    Let’s imagine that Allah is a real Godness snd muslims in Arabian countries asked him in their prayers to execute Americans for their bombarding of Libia. Then something like tornado in Alabama would be the result from the magician point of view. But this is not a serious thought anyway, only a kind of joke.

    May 1, 2011 at 8:07 am #37231
    wendy
    Participant

    I have a hard time with the arrogance of US and UN.

    And on a personal level I very much disagree with the interference in Libia.
    I believe that is up to the Libian people to fight their own cause, positive or negative outcome.
    What US/UN is doing is taking on ‘karmic’ debt but it seems the old ‘fire’ world is in need of playing their games. OR….

    In ‘my world’ the fire dragons are having great delight in playing with the ignorant humans, being used as pieces on the chessboard. They love it, it is what they do…

    My magicians view is connecting with the fire ones to understand what they are and why they do what they do, and connecting with the earth and sky ones (and others) to understand what they are trying to do and what they need from us as help on the human level.

    The fire ones are extremely powerful and have no interest in any responsible communication. They are very much themselves in every way, which is to be admired, well I admire them.
    Their destructive nature is in a very strange way ‘beautiful’. They are so full of themselves and they have such deep connection with who they are I ‘like’ them for what they are.
    But I do not like the outcome on the human surface, I do not like the pain and sorrow they cause on the human level.
    But in my magician world I want to understand them, as they are part of the human psyche, so I want to know them, feel them, be as them to understand them.

    Anyways I can go on and on about that….but thanks to shed some light on your posting, so I can understand what your Allah has to do with tornado’s in ‘your world’, which is after all a world of many forms and dimensions, where we all need to learn to listen and understand each other…. hopefully one day we can 🙂

    May 1, 2011 at 9:18 am #37233
    wendy
    Participant

    In the world of magic the wind blew through my house when I said goodbye to my youngest daughter at the door when she left for a nice afternoon with friends, it smacked the door between my kitchen and hall, and broke the glass in the shape of an eye, the width of the door….

    …. fire dragons do not like to be talked about in the open, and yes I get the warning…

    I asked the sky and earth ones to protect my youngest daughter on her journey today… and acknowledged the fire ones for their message…

    May 1, 2011 at 12:09 pm #37235
    ribosome777
    Participant

    all for petrol piggy banks from a pig stye–> Syria is under Emergency b/c Jews are not Jews

    why does every Libyan on the poorest continent on earth have healthcare?–> Gaddafi

    why do 20000+ American’s die every year from lack of assistance in the richest country on Earth? the corruption on Capital hill

    if two people are required to conceive a child, why has EVERY attempt to require paternal (father) consent to an abortion been deemed unconstitutional? so a mutual decision for a mutual decision is unconstitutional–> FRAUD, yet 80% of people on street don’t agree?

    I have watched my own U.S. acuaintences have their constitutional rites routinely and horrifically squashed for decades–> assembly, religion, happiness, press

    why is GOD on a dollar?

    and watched America grow fat on a cheap religion, the big fat easy way

    to take it to the level of falsified bombings, fake trash rape propaganda, and assassinations during tv broadcasts calling for ceasefires is ABOMINATION

    you life as part of the TAO is part of it one way or another, especially if you are connecting to the earth, and then you surely must understand the abortion issues, the social welfare and the pollution

    May 2, 2011 at 9:31 am #37237
    c_howdy
    Participant

    In my opinion best is to stay away of all kind of human folly.

    And what about the fate of Osama bin Laden?

    HOWDY

    May 2, 2011 at 11:42 am #37239
    c_howdy
    Participant

    Interesting what Wendy again said about dragons.

    In my opinion what comes to the question concerning karma, it’s important to stay away from the harmfull influence of people who are possessed of various harmfull influences like love, hate, jealousity etc. etc.

    I mean if one is serious practitioner.

    So for example if somebody thinks that love is important, one should regard such a person dangerous to one’s welfare at all levels.

    If one cannot do it with good then one needs to start to prepare to do it various forms of evil. Of course retaining common sense.

    HOWDY

    May 2, 2011 at 11:56 am #37241
    voice
    Participant

    When you say that love is harmful, I assume that you mean a form “false” love that is parastic onto, and controlling of, the other?

    Because “true” love is one of the highest goods – it connects us with others in a deep and wonderful manner. And, that sort of good love can be physical, social or spiritual in its density.

    Here I speak of “false” and “true” like is done in the Taoist tradition (e.g. false yang and true yang).

    May 2, 2011 at 1:23 pm #37243
    wendy
    Participant

    Love rests on no foundation.
    It is an endless ocean,
    with no beginning or end.

    Rumi

    May 2, 2011 at 2:25 pm #37245
    c_howdy
    Participant

    Jamie Flanz was scared, but he didn’t stop scraping his broom back and forth across the blood-stained barn floor. His large stomach wobbled from side to side under his black nylon jacket as he worked. Guys had teased him about it before, calling him a beached whale. He had laughed with them, but only because he had wanted to be part of the gang.
    He was terrified. He wanted to go home. Not home to his townhouse in Keswick – home to Montreal, where his family lived. He wanted to somehow erase the long trail of greed and misplaced ambition that had brought him to this godforsaken horror show in the middle of nowhere and get himself back to simpler, safer time in the past.
    -ALEX CAINE, The Fat Mexican

    Befriend & Betray/Stay Alive & Engage

    Well, I don’t really know.

    For me personally real practice starts from renunciation, so I don’t have any sympathy for anykind of sentimentality.

    Above citation comes what I did last friday night. So few hours after I bought my copy of ‘Dead Man Running’ by Ross Coulthart and Duncan McNab from local bookshop, I then started to read it and at the same time I was slowly drinking strong South African white wine and Swedish beer, also enjoying some snus (Swedish snuff) every now and then, just to be in right kind of mood. That book in my opinion was not only about some famous 1%er club exported from United States to also Finland, but as well it was about seemingly quite wide spread corruption of Australian law enforcement. I didn’t break any law myself and I think I was also not really seriously wasting my own time. What I did was mainly not reading interesting and informative book and having fun with legal intoxicants, but what I did was heavy duty work.

    It’s very problematic with these old Chinese concepts, because they are quite meaningless when one picks few of them and starts to mix them with some other completely different kind of language whether English or Finnish. I might use them myself when or if ever I am fluent myself with both spoken and written Chinese.

    If one is really honest how Daoists have been in the past, most real practitioners have been extremely strict and cold in this respect.

    More real than love is competition at all levels and everywhere.

    Dragons yeees…if one is able to see their influence, it’s interesting when they try to take over some human subject and what then can happen…also of course on larger scale.

    I’m aware that this is complicated, but I have made my choice.

    I personally leave love to Jesus, to society of Jesus and to whoever thinks that love is more important than healthy competition.

    HOWDY

    May 2, 2011 at 2:26 pm #37247
    c_howdy
    Participant

    Jamie Flanz was scared, but he didn’t stop scraping his broom back and forth across the blood-stained barn floor. His large stomach wobbled from side to side under his black nylon jacket as he worked. Guys had teased him about it before, calling him a beached whale. He had laughed with them, but only because he had wanted to be part of the gang.
    He was terrified. He wanted to go home. Not home to his townhouse in Keswick – home to Montreal, where his family lived. He wanted to somehow erase the long trail of greed and misplaced ambition that had brought him to this godforsaken horror show in the middle of nowhere and get himself back to simpler, safer time in the past.
    -ALEX CAINE, The Fat Mexican

    Befriend & Betray/Stay Alive & Engage

    Well, I don’t really know.

    For me personally real practice starts from renunciation, so I don’t have any sympathy for anykind of sentimentality.

    Above citation comes what I did last friday night. So few hours after I bought my copy of ‘Dead Man Running’ by Ross Coulthart and Duncan McNab from local bookshop, I then started to read it and at the same time I was slowly drinking strong South African white wine and Swedish beer, also enjoying some snus (Swedish snuff) every now and then, just to be in right kind of mood. That book in my opinion was not only about some famous 1%er club exported from United States to also Finland, but as well it was about seemingly quite wide spread corruption of Australian law enforcement. I didn’t break any law myself and I think I was also not really seriously wasting my own time. What I did was mainly not reading interesting and informative book and having fun with legal intoxicants, but what I did was heavy duty work.

    It’s very problematic with these old Chinese concepts, because they are quite meaningless when one picks few of them and starts to mix them with some other completely different kind of language whether English or Finnish. I might use them myself when or if ever I am fluent myself with both spoken and written Chinese.

    If one is really honest how Daoists have been in the past, most real practitioners have been extremely strict and cold in this respect.

    More real than love is competition at all levels and everywhere.

    Dragons yeees…if one is able to see their influence, it’s interesting when they try to take over some human subject and what then can happen…also of course on larger scale.

    I’m aware that this is complicated, but I have made my choice.

    I personally leave love to Jesus, to society of Jesus and to whoever thinks that love is more important than healthy competition.

    HOWDY

    May 2, 2011 at 8:01 pm #37249
    Steven
    Moderator

    In my view, Daoism is about embracing life,
    not about trying to exert your individual will
    against its natural flow.

    Consequently, in my opinion, renunciation is
    for those who are afraid to live.

    In fact, I would bet that *you yourself* would
    agree with this in principle, as I don’t really
    think that your enjoyment of alcohol and tobacco
    really fits into the picture of “renunciation”.

    To feel with intensity, is to live life with intensity.
    To live life with intensity, is to be alive.
    One of the most intense and most unifying feelings,
    a person can experience is love, so to feel love
    is to feel alive and to feel the power of unification.
    It’s the key to the whole thing, really.

    Steven

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