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There Is No Artificial Intelligence

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  • This topic has 17 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 6 years, 11 months ago by c_howdy.
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  • June 5, 2018 at 11:03 am #52592
    rideforever
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    There is not, and never has been, anything artificial that is intelligent.
    That is simply a fact.

    Any computer is a deterministic machine built by a man, programmed by a man, and will simply do its processing mechanically.   And that’s it.

    If you have an expensive machine, it can work quickly and use many kinds of formula, and is simply a fast working machine programmed by a man.

    There is not and never has been anything intelligent about a dumb machine doing what it is told to do.

    Currently the marketing of various products has become bare-faced lies and in the marketing of computers this term Artificial Intelligence has become popular, but is a total lie.   It is simply an expensive machine with lying marketing.

    Degeneration of Human Sensitivity

    One further thing to notice is that Western humans are degenerating quickly and are so confused by the “culture” of massive exploitation of the human body, human mind, and human feelings …. that Western humans have difficulty feeling their own life.   They are not sure any more whether they are intelligent and not machines, such is the level of destruction from the culture.

    This is another reason for the popularity of this term, Artificial Intelligence.   It means human beings are so degraded they can no longer tell the different between themselves and a block of wood.

    Amund

    June 5, 2018 at 11:04 am #52593
    rideforever
    Participant

    That’s a photo of Roald Amundsen on the South Pole.

    When men where Men.

    June 5, 2018 at 1:24 pm #52595
    c_howdy
    Participant

    …Western humans are degenerating quickly…

    Why Up to 90% of Asian Schoolchildren Are Nearsighted

    By Alice Park

    Scientists say an epidemic of myopia, or nearsightedness, is sweeping through Asian children, and is likely due to students’ spending too much time indoors studying and not enough time outside in the sunlight.

    It has long been thought that nearsightedness is mostly a hereditary problem, but researchers led by Ian Morgan of Australian National University say the data suggest that environment has a lot more to do with it.

    Reporting in the journal Lancet, the authors note that up to 90% of young adults in major East Asian countries, including China, Taiwan, Japan, Singapore and South Korea, are nearsighted. The overall rate of myopia in the U.K., by contrast, is about 20% to 30%.

    In Singapore, for example, rates of nearsightedness in three different ethnic groups — Chinese, Indian and Malay — have increased since 1996. Because all three groups are equally affected, says Morgan, it’s likely that some common environmental factor is driving the rise.

    Studies of East Asian populations that have moved to different parts of the world are also revealing: Chinese young adults in Australia, where exposure to bright sunlight is more likely, show lower rates of myopia than Chinese young adults living in cities in East and Southeast Asia. Similarly, white children living in Sydney show lower rates of nearsightedness than those living in the U.K.

    Particularly concerning is that about 10% to 20% of Asian schoolchildren suffer from high myopia, which puts them at higher risk of more serious vision problems, including blindness, in adulthood. Morgan says the culprit is the massive pressure on Asian children to succeed in school, which leads to too many hours hunched over books indoors and not nearly enough exposure to natural sunlight. Indeed, East Asian countries with high myopia rates are those that dominate international rankings of educational performance, the study notes.

    Myopia, which causes people to see clearly things that are near but not those that are at a distance, is the result of elongation of the eyeball, which leads to misalignment of light on the retina. Instead of landing on the retina at the back of the eye, incoming light converges at a point in front of the retina, leading to blurry images at a distance. Animal studies show that during early development, if the eye is not allowed to regulate its size to the proper length, then myopia can occur.

    The scientists think that the neurotransmitter dopamine may play a significant role in the structural development of the eyeball. Exposure to light increases the levels of dopamine in the eye, which may prevent elongation of the eyeball.

    “We think there is a pretty well-confirmed mechanism,” says Morgan. “We postulate that bright outdoor light would stimulate the release of the retinal transmitter dopamine, which is known to be able to block the axial growth of the eye, which is the structural basis of myopia — the eye simply grows too big.” Animal experiments using mice and monkeys support the theory, the researchers say.

    It’s not clear when the window of proper eye development closes in humans, but Morgan says it’s concerning that the high rates of nearsightedness among East Asians is occurring so early, often in elementary school. “What has happened in East Asia is that the study pressure that promotes myopia is already high for early-primary schoolkids, and they spend little time outdoors,” says Morgan. “The worst aspect of this early start is that it gives them longer to become highly myopic, because the eye continues to elongate, and then they are at risk of [more serious vision problems].”

    Can the progression to myopia be prevented, or at least stopped? So far, no effective prevention methods or therapies for nearsightedness exist, other than corrective lenses like glasses or contacts. The drug atropine slows down eye growth, but the drops can cause side effects, and they lose their effectiveness over time, says Morgan. “We need more evidence on just about everything that’s been tried,” he says.

    The results suggest that parents — especially tiger moms — might want to give their hard-studying children regular breaks: a couple of hours of sunlight a day would probably do it, the authors say.

    June 5, 2018 at 1:48 pm #52596
    c_howdy
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    When men where men?

    -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beno%C3%AEt_Lecomte-

    Benoît Lecomte (born 1967) is a French-born long distance swimmer (now a naturalized citizen of the U.S.A.) who claimed to be the first man to swim across the Atlantic Ocean without a kick board in 1998.

    June 5, 2018 at 2:32 pm #52597
    rideforever
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    Benoit Lecomte is about 50 years old, that generation is much much healthier than anyone born from the 90s onwards.

    I was having lunch with some spiritual people in their 50s recently, amazing, they had real personality a real life and strong bodies.    Modern young people are so weak in every way.

    Lecomte is shortly to be swimming across the Pacific apparently :
    https://tinyurl.com/yatbcfrb

    Apparently to “raise awareness” of plastic pollution.
    In whom will this awareness be raised ?   If these monkeys were alive don’t you think they would be aware already on this godforesaken planet.

    Nearsightedness

    I was just reading this article and this word kept crossing up “nearsightedness”, “nearsightedness”.

    And I stopped to consider WTF this means.
    You mean they can see things near to them ?
    And that’s …. a disease is it ?
    W-T-F

    Actually a better name for this disease is
    I-Can’t-See-Beyond-A-Few-Metres
    But hey monkeys, don’t let me interfere in your lexical party in the toilet.
    Save me.

    qqq

    June 5, 2018 at 3:54 pm #52598
    c_howdy
    Participant

    June 5, 2018 at 4:31 pm #52599
    rideforever
    Participant

    3D Printing !!!!

    And here’s another thing :  there is no such thing as 3 D Printing !!!!

    F-F-S

    Only cheap crap can be “printed” out of cheap crappy plastic.
    Try making a wicker basket, guitar, ipod, or house by “Printing”.
    Are you going to “print” all the builders, trees, craftsman and tools as well ???
    Only cheap idiot shit can be printed out cheap plastic.
    Did I just wake up on the F-F-S planet or what !!!!
    Maybe in the dreams of plastic-man, everything can be printed ?  Hmm …

    ppp

    June 7, 2018 at 10:26 pm #52604
    c_howdy
    Participant

    June 8, 2018 at 4:06 am #52605
    rideforever
    Participant

    He is a “nice” man but he doesn’t know what consciousness is.   He uses the word loosely.

    Is a worm conscious ?  No.

    Is a bird conscious ?   A bird has many activities, mating, community, it has a language and creativity, it can be individual to an extent.   Makes a lot of noise and shits everywhere.   Is it conscious ?  No.

    This man does not know about consciousness because He is not conscious.

    Such is the state of mankind.   He opens his eyes assumes all is well and leaps into action assuming that he is conscious.   Then he falls into the same ditch he fell into yesterday, that his father fell into and his grandfather.

    Mankind makes the same mistakes today, collectively and individually, as his ancestors did 10,000 years ago.

    Man is not conscious at all.   He has the same consciousness as a bird or monkey, more or less.   Plus about 1%, that’s all.

    He is sub-conscious.   Meaning there is some intelligence and aliveness in his actions, but he doesn’t know what he is.    His activity is mostly mechanical like a bird’s is.

    Consciousness is rare and the purpose of the “spiritual path”.

    Why does mankind never solve it’s problems ?

    …. the answers is that mankind does not realise it has a problem.   All its worrying and fretting, all it’s campaigning and values, it’s wars …. all mechanical.   He is not really worried, he is playing a game.

    All the people in the culture who are “worried” and “looking for answers” …. are not.

    They are just machine like.

    Those who suffer huge shocks through illness and death, or who have an innate sense of reality, such people might turn to the path.

    Perhaps 1% of the population of monkeys will do that, the rest represent a kind of undead zombie who has only enough “consciousness” to suffer and see it’s own destruction, but not enough to do anything different.

    Those who have ears to hear, let them hear.

    After all the destruction stupidity and worrying, after all the destroying of his own life of others and of the planet, a monkey actually dies “happy”.  He never really hoped for anything different, he never “believed” anything could be different.

    He who seeks will find.   But who seeks ?
    Knowing this who has time to waste ?
    If you are going to do it, just do it.

    dddd

    June 11, 2018 at 2:39 pm #52612
    c_howdy
    Participant

    June 11, 2018 at 2:53 pm #52613
    rideforever
    Participant

    Yes Mr Penrose, but WHO is the one doing the thinking ?

    That is why you are unconscious.

     

    Humans have a slender feeling of consciousness-light that they feel through activity, either thinking-activity or physical activity.   But they cannot identify who why or what is behind it.   They are unable to separate their identity from activity …. this is why they think constantly and are so actively destroying everything.

    Consciousness is when you can separate your identity from activity, when you feel your existence when you do not think or do not move.

    June 11, 2018 at 3:23 pm #52614
    c_howdy
    Participant

    …who is the one doing the thinking…

    I think therefore I am.

    HOWDY

    June 11, 2018 at 4:13 pm #52615
    c_howdy
    Participant

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SDqqROrOFs

    June 11, 2018 at 6:06 pm #52616
    rideforever
    Participant

    Advanced Version:

    I think therefore I am.
    And, when I don’t think also I am.
    Therefore I am whether I think or not.

    When I think it strengthens my sense of identity
    However this identity is attached to thoughts
    and so cannot rest and be peaceful

    What I really need is a true identity
    that does not rely on thinking

    These words describe my personal experience
    But this is not universal
    Some people are unable even to say “I think therefore I am”
    as their self-contact is very poor

    qqq

    June 11, 2018 at 6:59 pm #52617
    c_howdy
    Participant

    Cauranginath was a disciple and contemporary of Gorakhath. Legend relates that he was son of king Devapala of Bengal. Devapala’s first wife ded while Caurangi was still a child, and his father took a new wife who resorted to deception in order to Place her own son on thethrone. Caurangi was taken to the forest clearing where hisarms and legs were cut off. Here he was found byMatsyendranath whoinstructed Gorakhnath to take care for the limbless youth. Gorakhnath taught him the yoga of pot-like breathretention, and after twelve years of his practice his limbs were miraculously restored bythe powerof his own realization.

    -ROBERT S SVOBODA Aghora II: Kundalini

    …consciousness is when you can separate your identity from activity, when you feel your existence when you do not think or do not move…

    In Indian bodily alchemy 12 years is minimum amount of time to start inner life; 12 years is needed to keep solid planetary body totally immobilized and not breathing in order to start the alchemical transmutation.

    Sorry for my broken English.

    HOWDY

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