May 31, 2016 at 9:38 pm #46615
If somehow a person’s reality is a reflection, meaning that somehow the world is responding to the person’s “generation”,
then what does that say about this scenario?:
A person moves to a large town… The town has extreme disparity, for whatever reason, between rich and poor. The person goes to a bank, which is robbed while they are standing there and accidentally shot in a crossfire. The person dies.
1) How is that possibly any sort of “reflective” Universe?
2) How would smiling to that situation possibly have any effect?
3) Outside of “Mike-ianity”, for the monotheistic Abrahamic faiths,
how is that possibly “pre-destined”?
It’s NOT. The smiling would not work. There is no self generation in that situation.
When a baseball pop fly hits someone in the head, was it predestined?
While I am the first to argue for premonition, strange time “loops”, and even for some “Divine” synchronicity,
the “World” is a playing field of choice and pre-existent constraints.
Do you see anyone flying by body and will out of these situations? All of these religions are largely metaphorical and misinterpreted.
The problem is
THE HARD REALITY OF THESE DOCTRINES AFFECTING A PEOPLE’S LIVES AND CHOICES.
When did evolution NOT migrate for success? Any argument against greener grass, which points blame on the migrant is BULLSHIT. You are defying proven evolutionary systems.
Where is the proof of a bullet being stopped?
In this supposedly “Loving” universe, where is the power stopping that bullet?
That’s because it is NOT TRUE.
Many of these doctrines are nothing but poison which lead to mass mental illness.
So the question still stands to “Forum Gurus”,
HOW IS ANY OF THAT SCENARIO RECONCILED BY YOUR RELIGION?
“Yeshuah”‘s original doctrine and the Buddhists were correct for their time. You do not see this in the real Gospels. The gospels are Buddhic psychology with a REAL spiritual interaction which has to do with spirits and souls and their interaction with the world of life. So was Moses. The correct thing to do was kill the slave driver.
So was “Samson”. He is the reproductive hero like the great warrior kings.
They are all correct for different times and scenarios.June 2, 2016 at 1:12 am #46616
Life is creative chaos.
Nothing is predestined and planned, just an aggregate collection of random independent events motivated by a general drive to be creative and explore.
Smiling, is only about accepting both one’s own place in all of this, as well as acceptance of the outer circumstances, however they manifest. It is simply a means to be more fluid in response to external events, a “go with the flow” attitude. There is NO cosmic meaning to random deaths, catastrophes, any number of events. It’s just a random result of aggregate forces.
My feeling is that our purpose here is to experience this aggregate flow, to create in it, and to learn from it. Each of us, as a cell, then “transmits” this information as learning back to the collective. Spiritual cultivation makes this more useful because by tapping into to higher levels of consciousness, we can be more effective in our learning and consequently provide more data to the collective in service.
This is my view.
It doesn’t line up with any major religion, but it is–I think–most closely similar to Healing Tao’s views overall (Daoism, alchemical hermit path)
StevenJune 2, 2016 at 5:09 am #46618
Came across this by Michael a few weeks ago. Seems relevant to this discussion. (The bold in the quote is mine.)
Q. Is there any connection between the mass murder of 28 school kids & teachers in Connecticut and the timing of this Galactic alignment?
A. I feel they are deeply connected. Tao is about synchronicity. The murders happened on the Dark Moon before the Dark Sun of Winter Solstice. (I listed Dec. 12 as one of the most powerful times in my last newsletter). The dark moon pulls on our deepest unconscious negativity. There was nothing found to predict the extreme murderous behavior of 20 year old Greg Lanza. Everyone is puzzled, why did it happen, how could we prevent it again?
Greg did not personally have the will to committ the mass murders. I believe he was overshadowed by dark forces that are being forced out into the open by the Earth’s expanding galactic alignment. The very space between the molecules and cells in our body is being expanded. This increased neutral force in our body is reducing the hiding space available to negative ancestral and collective karmic forces buried in the psyche of humanity. So they are acting out, a desperate last ditch attempt to exert power. It’s been happening all over the world in recent years.
Yes, it was deeply tragic for all the families involved. But don’t be fooled by outer appearances. Individual humans are like tiny cells in the body of Humanity – we are totally expendable. Do you hold a funeral and sob when a few cells on your skin die? It is the same for Humanity. Souls flux in, souls flux out. The deaths of those children serve the greater good, by opening the hearts of millions just before this galactic alignment.
The same thing happened at 9/11 – a global heart opening was triggered by those 3000 deaths. These children in Connecticut 11 years later also sacrificed their lives to allow the current alignment to have more powerful effect in ultimately creating a less violent society. Senseless death motivates people to choose a future timeline of love and peace. I love the dark side, in that it strengthens our Light side. It makes us value our creative free will and our power to love, by showing us the terrible alternative.
Interesting that Michael suggests that the Children in Connecticut chose their life path, in this case getting shot.June 2, 2016 at 7:18 am #46620
While I agree with some of what Michael says–namely the skin cell analogy–I don’t agree with all of it.
To me it is a ridiculous concept that those children “chose” that life path, to be murdered. No one chooses that, not even on some higher unconscious wish level. Even if we accept that on a higher level, there is no fear about the death of one mortal life, it doesn’t even make sense. Are we to believe that all of these children, all happened to *simultaneously agree* to this fate and be in the *same room* for it to happen? And to somehow know to come together in that same location on the fated day to make sure that they can all be killed? All figured out in advance? Horse shit.
Those murders were the result of a random aggregate of events in which they had the dumb un-luck to be present for. In the same way, I don’t believe there was any kind of dark force “overshadowing” that influenced Greg. He was just simply a nutcase; plain and simple. Now he may not have always been a nutcase, but insanity is just the result of “desperation left unchecked”. He couldn’t handle life and wanted to act out to show everyone in an angry way, just how frustrated he felt. And he went for the extreme because he wanted to convey an extreme frustration/pain. It’s the same story for all of these mass-murdering nutcases. The only reason for the increase in the number of them is for the way in which people are becoming more and more disconnected from healthy support structures. People are far too busy anymore to care about anyone but themselves, so if someone is suffering silently, they are often on their own . . . without a family or tribal unit to provide love . . . and some can’t handle these stresses over a period of time and they snap.
My point (in contrast to Michael’s presentation): There is NO overarching plan or organization for anything. Everything is a random aggregate of events. There might be some probability pressures of certain possibilities, based on all of the preceding events that have occurred, but there is enough random quantum fluctuation that there is nothing predestined. There is no plan or intrinsic meaning to anything that occurs. It is only the RESULT of an occurrence that has meaning, and this is transmitted back to the collective.
I do agree that mass-murders provide value to society and the collective in the form of heart-opening, etc. But that is only as a consequence, not as the result of some pre-planned thing.
In my view, there is no devil, no dark forces, no angry gods, no tinkering oversouls, none of this horse shit. Just us, caught in a sea of creative chaos, with many stimulants, i.e. other people’s free will, planetary/weather catastrophes, extra-planetary curveballs, etc. These things that arise are effectively completely random, we have no power or choice there. It is not until they occur that we have a choice. When events occur, we have the opportunity to make a freewill choice in reaction, but that is the only free choice we have. Once we’ve made our choice, the consequences of that choice unfold without our control (until something else occurs where we can respond by making a free choice).
Frankly, in my opinion, there are far far too many people for some manipulator(s) to be tinkering around doing things. I think there are enough random events occurring that there is no need for any outside engineering to create some “desired event” . . . it will occur on its own just due to volume of events . . . there doesn’t need to be an input to make it happen. And why would they waste their time, when so much is already occurring?
In the case of Greg, I’m sure the galactic influence due to the December 12 had an impact . . . but it was only in the form of increased qi activation. And when someone’s emotional qi is already psychotic, it can be enough to push the person over the edge and snap. However, I don’t believe there is any underlying plan that is behind it. It is the random interaction between a cosmological event and an unstable person.
So, sorry, but I don’t believe in spiritual devils or spiritual helicopter parents, tinkering around. To me, it is ridiculous.
SJune 3, 2016 at 5:57 am #46622
Steven, enjoyed reading your trenchant thoughts. A few thoughts of my own. Michael writes
Individual humans are like tiny cells in the body of Humanity – we are totally expendable. Do you hold a funeral and sob when a few cells on your skin die? It is the same for Humanity. Souls flux in, souls flux out. The deaths of those children serve the greater good, by opening the hearts of millions just before this galactic alignment.
Michael seems to be saying here that skin cells are to the skin as individuals are to humanity. So is Michael arguing that, just as we don’t mourn the death of a few of the cells comprising the skin, so we shouldn’t mourn the death of a few of the individuals comprising humanity?
But surely this contradicts natural human behaviour. For whilst humans don’t naturally mourn the death of their skin cells, they do naturally mourn the death of their loved ones.
The same thing happened at 9/11 – a global heart opening was triggered by those 3000 deaths.
9/11 may have caused some people’s hearts to open. But, in the Middle East, some openly celebrated the attack. And 9/11 lead to, for example, the War on Terror, the Bush Doctrine, the invasion of Afghanistan and the second Iraq war. Not a great deal of heart opening there. So, in my view, it’s not at all obvious that 9/11 led to a net opening of hearts.June 3, 2016 at 7:57 am #46624
Thankfully, by the 5th century, straw dogs replaced real dogs as sacrificial victims for prophecyyes, model dogs made of straw.
The sky and the earth do not care,
They regard the myriad things as straw dogs;
The sage does not care,
He regards people as straw dogs.
-Dao De JingJune 3, 2016 at 5:26 pm #46626
>>>Michael seems to be saying here that skin cells
>>>are to the skin as individuals are to humanity.
>>>So is Michael arguing that, just as we don’t
>>>mourn the death of a few of the cells
>>>comprising the skin, so we shouldn’t
>>>mourn the death of a few of the
>>>individuals comprising humanity?
>>>But surely this contradicts natural human
>>>behaviour. For whilst humans don’t
>>>naturally mourn the death of their
>>>skin cells, they do naturally mourn
>>>the death of their loved ones.
You are looking at this on the wrong level. If you are saying “shouldn’t we mourn the death of a few of the individuals comprising humanity”, you are looking at this at the level of an individual, i.e. another, but different, skin cell. When he is referring to “Humanity”, he is referring to the spiritual collective, the oversoul level, i.e. the spiritual soul aggregate that we are all part of, on a higher plane of existence.
This is why I was referring to “society” and the “collective” as different terms. Society is an aggregate of individual people in this realm of existence, a combined harmony of voices felt, made of individuals. By “collective”, I was referring to the oversoul level, which extends beyond human existence and life, on a higher plane of consciousness, which is a “soul lake”, from which each drop that leaves forms a human soul and life on earth.
So if you are talking about “mourning the death of their loved ones”, you are talking about skin cells mourning the deaths of other skin cells. And who knows, maybe they do. I’m not an actual skin cell, so I can’t say if they do mourn the loss of their brothers when I accidentally kill a few as I scratch my arm. But note: if I scratch my arm, is it because I have a plan to open the hearts of the other surviving skin cells, or is it simply because my arm itches and there is no master plan behind my killing of them, because frankly on my level, I couldn’t care less about what they think. On their level, their hearts may indeed get opened, but it was no master plan on my part. 😉
>>>9/11 may have caused some people’s hearts to open.
>>>But, in the Middle East, some openly celebrated
>>>the attack. And 9/11 lead to, for example,
>>>the War on Terror, the Bush Doctrine,
>>>the invasion of Afghanistan and the
>>>second Iraq war. Not a great deal of
>>>heart opening there. So, in my view,
>>>it’s not at all obvious that 9/11 led
>>>to a net opening of hearts.
Well, you have to be a little careful when you talk about “hearts being opened”. It’s a little bit of slippery language and can imply things that are actually not true. In particular, when hearts get opened, the result isn’t always good. The heart has positive aspects like love, but it also has negative aspects like rage. As a heart opens up and releases a lot of positive, it can also release a lot of negative. I think that’s definitely true with 9/11. A world-wide pouring of heartfelt love and support to the loss of the 9/11 victims, coupled with world-wide rage (most intensely felt coming from the US) that led to a rage-ful assault on the middle east. The same can be said for the result of the Connecticut elementary school shooting: the tender love for the children is also coupled with rage toward the shooter (and possibly in an extensible way to gun laws or other societal conditions that made the event possible).
This is also why–as a sidebar–why in loving relationships there are often upsets that would not occur in platonic ones. As the two people have their hearts open up more and connect to one another, not only does more love come out, but so does separately a lot of stored heart toxins.
It’s really part of the Daoist idea. You can’t have just “good”, if you want to qualify it as that; you also get the “bad” along with it. It’s not like you can get just one, without the other.
SJune 3, 2016 at 5:28 pm #46628June 4, 2016 at 11:40 am #46630
I think if we wanted to characterize the function of 9/11 in relation to the planetary rebirth hypothesis it would not be as a heart opening so much as an “eye opening”. Some polls in the US suggest that over 40% of the people believe the government was complicit in some way. 15 years later we see that one of most conspicuous signs of a change in mass consciousness is the dramatic loss of credibility of major institutions (speaking from a US perspective) – the media, politicians, politics, government, etc. – all are held in widespread contempt now. I have never seen any literature on the way in which 9/11 may have affected public attitudes toward societal institutions, but from my own experience, I found the study of the events around 9/11 to be a most startling window onto dark realities that I could previously have scarcely imagined. Few things have altered my mindset so profoundly.
The conspiratorial view of 9/11 is usually embedded in a larger conspiratorialist worldview. It is interesting to note that the worldview of what we might call the “new age” or “new earth” community is basically identical to the conspiratorialist worldview with these metaphysical elements superimposed on it that have to do with the anticipated shift in the global consciousness, etc. One way to interpret the change in mass consciousness that we are experiencing is that people now see through the mass deceptions that has been so successful for so long. And anyone who has looked into 9/11 knows the many deceptions around it are standing in plain sight, as it were, and how it easy it would be to expose them. Such an exposure would trigger a political and social earthquake the like of which we have never seen.June 5, 2016 at 10:18 pm #46632
1) How is one to lose fear of the REAL dark side?
2) In conjunction with this, how is one to know what a “Reflective” reality generation system is?
Michael Winn is right about a lot and put a life time of work into something which is IMMENSELY important.
He is also WRONG about a lot.
In example, I am well aware of the “pre-natal” consciousness flow and a real role of the golden elixir practices in contacting that, BUT
constant artificial techniques will DEFINITIVELY result in suppression of the autonomic nervous system which defeats the entire purpose.
Michael Winn has attempted to turn a real “Ida-Pingala” based system into a psychology which is a disaster.
It is an INCONTROVERTIBLE path to a psuedo-self and that proof lies in the contradiction of natural living systems which it was supposed to attune to…
That does not mean that all that work is a waste or that he is wrong about everything.
In another example, there is NO AMORPHOUS Overself. The nearest tier is a higher gear of the local person. THERE IS A DEFINITIVE SINGULAR PERSONALITY THAT IS REINCARNATING. All of this multi-organ theory is eventually complete off point. That is NOT the reincarnating overself.
I do not know about all others, but I DO KNOW THAT I HAD PRECOGNITION OF SERIOUS EVENTS in my own life long before they ever occurred and choice still had to be made. They were warnings.
I do not know that the children listed in these replies ever had access to any of that and that may be one of the best arguments FOR yogic practices in an evolutionary context.
THEY DID NOT, IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, CHOOSE TO DIE.June 6, 2016 at 3:43 am #46634
You are looking at this on the wrong level.
Indeed I am! Thanks for clarifying. I’ll have another go.
I now read Michael to be saying that, in terms of expendability and mourning, an individual’s skin cells are to that individual as individuals are to Humanity/the Oversoul. That is, just as an individual regards their skin cells as entirely expendable and does not mourn their passing, so the Oversoul regards individuals as entirely expendable and does not mourn their passing.
I’d heard Michael mention the Oversoul a few times and a couple of weeks ago had a root around the HT website to try and learn more. I’ve included a few links/quotes below. Perhaps relevant to this discussion is Michael’s view that there are multiple Oversouls who can fight amongst themselves.
In many cultures its personified as twelve creator gods & goddesses, who generate twelve great soul tribes and all human archetypes. When they fight amongst themselves, we call it the Battle in Heaven, mirrored on Earth as the struggle between good and evil.
A few questions occur to me re Michal’s perspective. If it makes sense to say that an Oversoul “thinks” with a single mind, then why would an Oversoul regard individual humans as expendable? Perhaps because it understands that death is not the end and that the soul will continue its journey/learning/evolution? If we all have an Oversoul level of consciousness, is there any difference between saying the Oversoul mapped out the manner of the Connecticut children’s death and saying that, on some level, the children’s souls chose their own death?
Anyway, Steven, I understand your main point to be that, whilst, like Michael, you hold that the Oversoul level exists, unlike Michael you don’t regard it as carrying out some grand evolutionary plan. According to Michael this plan includes bringing about heart opening designed to “serve the greater good” by “ultimately creating a less violent society”. Thus, Michael seems to be suggesting that the result of heart opening – for example, 9/11 – is a net positive. As you say, 9/11 unleashed both positives and negatives and I wonder whether it’s actually possible to calculate/determine whether the aftermath has been, or will be, a net positive?!
A few Oversoul links/quotes
Here is an excerpt from my book: Primordial Tai Chi: Way of Enlightened Love, chapter 3 on Tao Cosmology that describe the function of oversoul or da shen:
Great Spirit (da shen). Oversouls or group consciousness at cosmic level. Da shen is the moving expression of tai yisstillness, the Original Birth of Multiplicity from Unity. Its Natures collective consciousness at the impersonal causal level, a.k.a. the Spirit Body of the Tao. In many cultures its personified as twelve creator gods & goddesses, who generate twelve great soul tribes and all human archetypes. When they fight amongst themselves, we call it the Battle in Heaven, mirrored on Earth as the struggle between good and evil.
Different oversouls are said to overshadow humans with extraordinary spiritual powers and insight in order to become prophets (e.g. examples are how ordinary humans who merged into their oversoul to become Jesus Christ and Gautama Buddha). Its one of many ways that oversouls shape the evolution of Humankind.
In Tao model, the Three Pure Ones arise from tai yi (the Great Oneness), divide into three heavens and the four cardinal directions, forming a zodiac with twelve pentagons (dodecahedron, depicted above). This sacred geometric architecture is called Pre-natal Heaven, the matrix of Inner Time-Space-Beings that flows in yin-yang and five phase cycles. The Chinese calendar is based on this five phase, twelve-sided zodiac. Over souls or da shen are guided by the impulse of Pure Love and Free Will received from tai yi which compel them to create new realms within this cosmos. They are not creators of the muliti-verse, although they may guard the boundary of this cosmos.
Oversouls co-create and manage the destiny timelines of Humanity. Christian angels and Buddhist boddisattvas are cultural perceptions of messengers from Great Spirit. In Tao, star beings or immortals are the most common messengers.
In my understanding, both achieved and unachieved souls end up in the same realm, that of the Over Soul (Collective Higher Self, or metaphorically, the Stellar Mind). There are 12 of these Over Souls, that’s where we get the archetypes of the 12 signs of the zodiac, the Chinese calendar’s 12 Terrestrial Branches, and famously, the 12 Gods who live atop Mt. Olympus. But the achieved and unachieved souls have very different experiences, once they arrive in the celestial realm.
The more integrated your body-mind (ego identity), and soul (true self) are at the moment of death, the greater free will you will be given by the Over Soul in your ensuing re-birth. The lazy, fragmented, addicted, or self-hating egos just get parked, like cars in a cosmic junkyard, until the Over Souls pick out their traumatized parts and recycle the fragments into hopefully more productive lives. In this theory, the incomplete soul and its “egoic fragments” do NOT re-incarnate, but its “pieces” (5 vital organ spirits or wu jing shen) do find themselves implanted into brand new soul patterns.
Then there are the souls who spiritually worked hard to overcome the challenges dealt to them, and who materialized some degree of unconditional love while on Earth. They also get put to work by the Over Soul. But they hold a more integrated identity and get to consciously choose their ongoing process of cosmic creativity. In short, they graduated from Earth School and can choose to move on to higher dimensional playgrounds where their earth-learned Free Will can be put to responsible good use.
June 6, 2016 at 6:56 am #46636
the distinctions used in cultivation practice do not permit a detailed consideration of individuals karmas – traditionally in these areas you need to go into the astrology charts and consider what memories and impressions the planets along with sun earth and moon are holding, for delivery of consequences of actions. In a way cultivation is to purify the birth chart. The chart shows life lessons and ancestral influences. A great many people use this information as part of cultivation practice. It really helps to get a handle on the particular energies at work at a particular time, but takes time to study and contemplate. The I ching is different, 6 lines moving or still,a map of energies but more just this moment. Just to illustrate Mrs C the Democratic candidate has her South Node of the Moon at the exact degree of the Mars station in late June. The South Node is a point of connected to inherited past conditions, family matters and the need for spiritual connection to heal past issues. Mars may stir up her fighting spirit but could also point to enemies from the past and undermining karmic influences. A time for resolving such matters. Is she on retreat doing cultivation to clear the decks; no. So lets check it out and see around 29 June. I heard mention of her computer having items discussing yoga, so maybe privately she is looking for cultivation practice to assist. Mostly people access these kind of maps to get answers to ‘why this why now’ questions. Sure the multi-organ theory is more body based but the body itself carries memories and impressions which at times need help to be cleared. The reincarnating person you refer to has the karmic issues portrayed in the birthchart which get played out in natural cycles. Cultivation practice is to improve our experience. If this is off topic or not acceptable to your world view please ignore.June 6, 2016 at 9:46 am #46638
>>>I now read Michael to be saying that,
>>>in terms of expendability and mourning,
>>>an individual’s skin cells are to that
>>>individual as individuals are to
>>>Humanity/the Oversoul. That is, just
>>>as an individual regards their skin cells
>>>as entirely expendable and does not mourn
>>>their passing, so the Oversoul regards
>>>individuals as entirely expendable and
>>>does not mourn their passing.
>>>I’d heard Michael mention the Oversoul
>>>a few times and a couple of weeks ago
>>>had a root around the HT website
>>>to try and learn more.
Alchemical methods for contact/interaction are taught in the Star Alchemy course.
He also presents his views about oversouls in that class, in the context of the material presented. I resonate with much of it, but I disagree with the view that they are “tinkering” with life here and acting as helicopter parents. I just don’t think that’s how it works.
>>>A few questions occur to me re Michal’s perspective.
>>>If it makes sense to say that an Oversoul “thinks”
>>>with a single mind, then why would an Oversoul
>>>regard individual humans as expendable?
Easy. There are 7+ billion people on the planet. Even if you divide that by 12 according to his model if you believe in 12 oversouls rather than 1, that means that each oversoul would be responsible for 500 million + people. Consequently, what do a handful of people make, compared to 500 million +. Do you worry about the handful of skin cells that die every day? No! Because they are an insignificant number compared to the overall total.
>>>If we all have an Oversoul level of consciousness,
>>>is there any difference between saying the Oversoul
>>>mapped out the manner of the Connecticut children’s
>>>death and saying that, on some level, the children’s
>>>souls chose their own death?
No. These are identical in my view, and I’m sure Michael would say the same.
However, to me, both are equally ridiculous. On the latter option, it is ridiculous to think that all of these children all agreed to die, and do it on the same day, and know to arrange things to be in the same classroom at the same time, all in advance, with all of the random variables that go on in life. To me, there is too much quantum fluctuation of events for anything pre-planned to occur. Likewise, in the former option, the idea that the oversoul is mapping out and planning events is silly to me. For one, if we accept the 500 million+ concept, do you really think it is spending its time focusing on 20 children when there are 500 million+ seeds that it spread? It’s ridiculous. There are so many people living and dying every day, it is getting plenty of varied learning from so many different sources, it doesn’t need to be a tinkerer or helicopter parent.
>>>Anyway, Steven, I understand your main point to be that,
>>>whilst, like Michael, you hold that the Oversoul level exists,
>>>unlike Michael you don’t regard it as carrying out
>>>some grand evolutionary plan.
That’s correct. I believe the oversoul’s main function is TO LEARN. To do so, it breaks off pieces of itself (i.e. individual souls) sends them to earth, to have a physical life and collect experiences. Then when we die, we meet our oversoul again to deposit this learning. I.E. as in many near-death experiences, there is a “life review”. To me, this is the oversoul asking “ok, what did you do with your life? Show me, and tell me what you did when you were gone”. But it is not paying attention in the meantime of an individual life. It’s more like, “go off and live your life, and then come back and give me a report”. Out of the 7 billion people, there are so many people dying all the time, each with unique lives and stories to tell, that I don’t believe they have any need nor desire to step in and tinker with lives on Earth.
As above, so below.
And yes, just like us, they are creating and not just learning. But they are creating on their plane of existence, not ours. Just like I create in my physical life, and I don’t worry about what my individual single skin cells are doing. My skin cells do what they do, and I live my life creating on a plane of existence that my individual skin cells don’t really understand.
>>>As you say, 9/11 unleashed both positives and negatives
>>>and I wonder whether it’s actually possible to
>>>calculate/determine whether the aftermath has
>>>been, or will be, a net positive?!
“Net positive” is, in my view, an ego-based human desire that is not a reality. There is no such thing as “net positive”. You can’t have positive without negative. There’s a strong ego human desire for things “to get better”, for somehow over time, you can eliminate more and more negative. To be honest, I think this is a fantasy. In my view, the only thing you can have is CHANGE. Things will change. With that change comes positive and with that change comes negative. Whether you individually “like” the change that arises, is entirely subjective.
But specifically, there will always be human conflict and wars, alongside different aspects of peaceful interactions. How these may manifest as generations live and die, may take different appearances, but you will always have both. The human idea of “eventual world peace” is a dreamy fiction that inspires hope, but it is not reality, in my view. You might get beautiful roses, but you’ll also get thorns along with them. It’s the balance and interplay of positive and negative.
As to the quoted links and text, you put in, I don’t want to get into a long essay on it. Suffice it to say that agree on some parts, and disagree on others. The main area where I disagree with, is the bit about oversoul tinkering and overshadowing humans and this kind of stuff. To me, a lot of it is Christian / Western religion overlay of “God has a plan for me”, which is, in my view, an ego attachment in disguise. Instead, unconditional acceptance (i.e. pure love) from on high, allows pure freedom without manipulation . . .
SJune 6, 2016 at 11:12 pm #46640
This is why I cannot stand the implementation of astrology and new agey isms…
Sure the planets may have influence, there may be better times for certain crops, or possibly even ways to access the “Heavens” to see outside of normal time…
but to what end? For seers the benefit is to avoid disasters or make long term plans. For everyone else, it’s foo foo for losers.
The dynamics of homo sapiens’ life are simple. What percentage is getting them wrong?
All of the karma karma, soul mate la la is a complete waste of time.
The real experience is telepathic contact with the celestial bodies,
not using them to understand why boyfriends are dumping you for the next bikini vixen..
or to languish over the dead..June 6, 2016 at 11:42 pm #46642
This is an obvious confusion of an Overself and an “Oversoul”.
An “Overself” is a direct higher gear of your own consciousness which looks through your local experience in the same way in which we are multifaceted within dreams and altered states…
To whatever degree it is actually there in any substantial sense…
Under certain conditions, you can access that system.
An Overself is evolving.
It is based on memory reconnaissance mixed with an original “Divine Spark” which essentially stands next to “God”.
Living things are like antennae.
A gorilla has its own developing form of Overself in the same way it has its own branch on the “Soul Chain”
THERE IS A DIVINE BRANCHING SOUL CHAIN.
The seals are over the forehead.
The Overself is a REAL bio-chemical system which connects “Higher Intelligence memory” to a local CNS in conjunction with the third eye.
Honestly, you are talking about vast tiers of incomprehensible Higher Intelligence(s)…. including non-terrestrial surveillance.
An “Oversoul” is a generalization of the Original spark of the “God” soul which is distributed into life forms…
In order for living things to mix aspects of the local “being” with the original root of soul, or Over-Soul thresholds,
there are evolving systems which amount to developing “Overselves”.
It is like a living, holographic super-computer except that the developing nuclei integrate “Divine Compassion”.
It is a real force within the core of the “Universe”/Multiverse that operates within real “Heavenly Bodies”.
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