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May 13, 2006 at 3:00 pm #13948Alexander AlexisParticipant
“There were many practitioners who practiced all day like the Yang Family for instance. Yang Cheng Fu practiced all day because of his father’s strict discipline but after that he didn’t need discipline anymore because he loved the practice just as I do.”
I remember reading that despite his incredible prowess as a fighter (or because of it) he reached his expiration date at the age of 47 from gluttony. Still want to use him as a model?
I’m off for three days now. -A
May 13, 2006 at 3:08 pm #13950FajinParticipantHis early death due to his unhealthy lifestyle has nothing to do with the fact that he practiced very long throughout the day in enjoyment. There are plenty of examples I can give you, it does not matter. The bottom line is that you may practice as long as you want if you are enjoying it. You may also push yourself over the limits to discover.
There is nothing wrong with exploring your potential as a human being. My motivation is that I love the practice that I am doing and I will continue to do it daily refining it and exploring myself, unwinding my potential, and enhancing my connection to the earth. I love it!
The more powerful the lower dantian, the more you’ll get out of inner alchemy. There are countless benefits to practicing long.
Overall, the more you practice, the better you get.
Smiles,
FajinMay 13, 2006 at 9:46 pm #13952EmelgeeParticipantEeeesh, Fajin…you can get a bit short with your messages.
Calling Alexander difficult to deal with is a bit like the pot calling the kettle black!
If I recollect you are in your early-20’s, yes?
I loved my early-20s – I knew everything and could tell people what I thought with such self assurance! Now, as I am about to turn 30 (eeeeek!!!) I realise I know very little of anything…<– (I wonder what you will make of this?!)
I have avoided chatting with you in the past as, from what I have seen, your discussions can be quite one sided and you create tension with your words that you, I suspect unsuccessfully, try to offset with other phrases like "smiles from the heart", or something similar. Discussions with you are like a battle and, perhaps, this is because you seem to consider your growth as a person as something of a battle and it comes with you into this forum.
Maybe if you were more gentle with yourself it would also transpire into being more gentle with the people around you?
Emelgee
PS – rather than responding point by point and trying to show me where I have erred in my assessment, perhaps you can try digesting the message or meditating upon it before replying? I don't want to have a battle with you…
May 13, 2006 at 9:48 pm #13954EmelgeeParticipantOr is it the kettle calling the pot black?
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I can’t remember…
May 13, 2006 at 9:51 pm #13956EmelgeeParticipantOr, how about this way…
“You seem to have raised children. My compliments go out to you Wendy”.
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Emelgee.
May 13, 2006 at 10:27 pm #13958FajinParticipantHello Emelgee,
Thank you for the lovely response. I will not start an e-battle with you.
I believe that I have not battled with Singing Ocean, Bagua, or anyone except Alexander to be truthful. I debated with them to try and learn something out of it.
Everyone has their own unique and individual view and that is what makes everyone great, our individual sense of free will. By disagreeing with someone and showing your perspective allows one to “view” things differently if he/she is open to a new perspective.
With Alexander, I did not debate. Alexander tried to point out what he thought were my bad traits, like me being controlling, tempered (I have no temper), etc. I understand that this was his effort in attempting to help me out. What I did not agree and detested his examples of me being those traits.
For example, how he said I was trying to control and influence Wendy’s behaviour with her kids, how I am overdoing my practice, how I am like a short-tempered two year old, etc. I think he is being controlling with what I should do. This is battling, not debating.
To clairfy what I said earlier, I meant the battle within. The ego. We must allow our original nature to emerge and win the battle. I used the term battle in contrast with martial arts, Michael uses the term tension.
I consider growth to be of something like daily progress. For example, 100 days to open the orbit. Each day you get better and sooner or later, the orbit will be open. There is no more tense/battling/stagnant qi in the two major vessels and the battle is over. I use martial terms because I am a martial artist but the concept is still the same wether you say tense, battle or whatever.
I say smiles to the heart because I literally smile from my heart into the very words I type. Or is it better to type ๐ instead.
P.S. You may discuss anything you like with me without fear that I will battle you online, but when pointing out who I am and what I should do, use your own discretion, BEWARE!!! It is like entering the lion’s den or dragon’s cave!!! (j/k!).
Smiles,
FajinMay 14, 2006 at 5:32 am #13960matblackParticipantEmelgee>>I loved my early-20s – I knew everything and could tell people what I thought with such self assurance! Now, as I am about to turn 30 (eeeeek!!!) I realise I know very little of anything.<>Maybe if you were more gentle with yourself it would also transpire into being more gentle with the people around you?<<
Indeed , it always starts with our selves……..
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May 14, 2006 at 5:34 am #13962matblackParticipantMay 14, 2006 at 10:18 pm #13964FajinParticipantHi Max,
I will gladly answer your questions.
1. How and where do you hold/hang all the weights?
ANSWER: This is a traditional shaolin art and the tantric tibetan gong fu school has also adopted it. I have learned the shaolin variation. It is called “Shi Zhu Gong” and was mandatory in the shaolin temple. It is from the hard school – yinggong. I changed it a bit though.
Originally, you are supposed to stand in the horse stance (ma bu) on wooden stakes which are supposed to be dug into the ground. The stakes have a rounded, flat, top and are about 2/3’s of a meter. You place the soles of your feet on them while in Ma Bu. This concentrates all your weight into the soles, particularly yongquan.
Then as you get better, you add stone slabs on your thighs because your thighs must be parallel to the ground in ma bu. It is a really low stance. I changed it by not concentrating my weight on stakes and use a barbell with weights instead. I did this because I wanted a softer and gentler approach.
In the Shaolin temple, this and light gongfu was mandatory. You had to be, “as heavy as a mountain, yet as light as a feather.”
2. You said you are moving? Where?
ANSWER: To China. I am going there to get an oppurtunity with the WTKFA (Wudang Taoist Kung Fu Association). I will be back to Vancouver after some years, don’t know exactly how long. Less than 5 for sure. I’ll probably take Michael’s audio up there and some Chan/Zen/Buddhist books!
Hope that answers it,
Smiles,
FajinMay 15, 2006 at 4:10 am #13966FajinParticipantHi Pietro,
I realize you dislike debates and so I would like to just express my view on this and maybe you can tell me what you think.
From my understanding, we can EJaculate and INjaculate. The purpose of ejaculating our semen is to reproduce. The purpose of INjaculation is for cultivation.
My reasoning for lust not being good is because it has nothing to do with any of these two. Love is essential.
It is said that when a rapist rapes a woman and she is in fear, the rapist will also be damaged because he is inheriting those emotional vibes from the woman so he is being damaged too. So, sex should be all about love so that the emotional patterns of both lovers will be in sync.
I understand that lust CAN be a good thing if you use it to that, just as fire can be used to steam water. Or using emotions to heal certain organs. Like a certain negative emotion is bad for one organ but good for another following wuxing.
I think that you have probably used lust for its positive effect, ie. it helped you to find a relationship with incredible women as you said. But I wouldn’t say that it is a good thing generally because of all the bad things it can do.
I mean, my view is that it is generally negative, love positive, both have good uses. Just like fire can be used to steam water, just as you are using lust to empower love.
That’s my view!
Smiles,
FajinMay 15, 2006 at 1:28 pm #13968JernejParticipant1.
Throwing water around is not alchemy.Throwing water in brain is just easy. Brain and semen being water. Try trowing it in heart or lower dan tien and be healthy.
That is similar to kicking water pearl around in fusion. Not it’s basic instruction.
Throwing water at heaven gods is another way… it is how they feed.
So what can you do?
That is the secret of empty force.2.
For good sex…man should not be scared and woman not angry.
The saying is not for the other way around.3.
Now…
Explain why you differenciate between spirit and intelligence.
In ching-chi-shen axisching is a polarity with predominatly ching
and similar for shen and chiand the five phases are a also along full axis as every polarity is
the ching-chi-shen are naturaly distinguished yet interconnected
as the diaphragms show.In such cosmology there is no need for a term spirit. Or to have it differentiated from intelligence.
Now you say that a element phase can be shen only. And that spirit and intelligence are different terms.
The only external sourse for shen numbers/numbers of shen (of above classification) per organ are magical numbers. In such numbers all but one have number bigger than one. So this is not your source.
What is your source.
May 15, 2006 at 5:28 pm #13970FajinParticipant>>For good sex…man should not be scared and woman not angry.
The saying is not for the other way around.<>Now you say that a element phase can be shen only. And that spirit and intelligence are different terms.The only external sourse for shen numbers/numbers of shen (of above classification) per organ are magical numbers. In such numbers all but one have number bigger than one. So this is not your source.
What is your source.<<
*Yes, I say that intelligence (De) and shen are different and not related. It says in every text that lungs have po, liver has hun, heart has shen, kidneys have zhi, spleen have yi.
Only heart has spirit, not all of them. Lungs and liver have souls which are different than spirit and kidneys and spleen have will and intent. Liver releases hormones so De is a result of this as are kidneys (adrenals) and spleen (pancreas). Heart has thymus too. It is clear thymus has a big role when Wendy was 'painted' by a ghost on thymus.
Lungs are connected to medulla oblongata and reptile brain, the instincts – they breath. Organs have intelligences based on physiological structure not shen, is my view.
Kundalini passes each chakra where a major endocrine gland is located to awaken higher states of concsiousness (cultivating De). I think spirit and De are confused by some schools of Daoism, they are different.
That is my source.
P.S. Don't listen to Pietro, Wendy, Bagua I think the way you talk is cool!
Smiles,
FajinMay 18, 2006 at 9:53 am #13972JernejParticipant1.
you are equatingshen of shen-chi-ching
and
shen of shen-zhi-hun-po-zhito come from later to first is a transition from emotional heart of organ to inner heart of middle dan tien
2.
matter is manifestation of ching
aura is manifestation of chi, shenevery polarity exists on full axis of ching-chi-shen (nested in wu)
thus to say heart has shen
does not mean it is shen only (of ching-chi-shen axis), only is a hint of a connection of heart organ to inner eart through a dan tienor to say that zhi is will only, it is a polarity on whole axis that is fully relevant to the will of being here
there is somewhere a winn quote
five phase yin-yang pulsation on the axis of ching-chi-shen … wuthus it is more appropriate to say
that
physical heart is physican manifestation of shen and shen being a fire element manifestation
and not physical heart heart has shen and shen being a compartment on the ladder to godNote that dominant taoist sects are of belied that heart should rule the eart. Not very nice.
May 18, 2006 at 6:57 pm #13974FajinParticipantHi Jernej,
I know that jing, qi, and shen permeate the whole body. What I am trying to say is that what is De the result of? I think that it is the result of the body’s physiological actions not because of spirit.
But body’s physiological actions are the result of qi being the motive force. And qi is the result of shen. And jing, qi, shen are the result of wu. So does that mean that De is the result of wu? I know that it is the root source but that is not the direct relationship.
The direct relationship is jing but indirect is all. So I dislike calling them vital organ spirits. Yuan shen, Hun, and Po came into this body from somewhere else, so they are not part of elements, they are eternal, their relationship is yin-yang-yuan. Kidney and spleen did not. They were formed when body was formed (jing). They don’t have individual spirits.
Wuxing is a qi relationship, not shen relationship. I don’t agree with 5 vital organ spirits. In the higher levels, it should be about combining yuan shen with 7 Hun and 3 Po into one whole. So they are not separated after death. Hun will not go back into heaven and Po will not go back into Earth.
Smiles,
FajinMay 18, 2006 at 10:48 pm #13976baguaParticipantHi Fajin:
Can you explain in detail the 7 po and the 3 hun?
thanks,
bagua
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