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essentially, we are all friends. sooner ao later we’ll seee that.
that illusion comment. i didn’t even take it seriously, so there’s no way it could have offended me. i just lauged off the cuff. i know i’m not an illusion, so a jokes a a joke.
sometimes maybe we take ourselves a bit too seriously.
when your inner smile is genuine, then the outer smile is genuine, then all is well.
comming is fine, going is fine, being here is fine, relax and let it all flow.
You were already announcing yourself so i did not post the question.
It is about Erle Montaigue…
Do you know the circumstances of his transformation
from being a meaty/beefy man to not being so.Btw, you insidekungfu suggestion was fine. even got hunggar lam sam wing photos poster and studying such mummy, after the standing was different.
http://www.hunggar.net/downloads2.htm
(silchuette full size free poster)>>Do you know the circumstances of his transformation
from being a meaty/beefy man to not being so.<<*I interpret your question to mean either A. Why he transformed from muscular to slimmer, or B. What were the consequences of doing so. So I will answer both in case.
A. He stopped weight lifting and his muscles became smaller. He used to be a bouncer and fought many times in street fights so he used to work out until he met Yang, Yiu Chung (excuse s/p) who taught him Old Yang Style, which HE thinks is the pinnacle of martial arts.
B. If you haven't really accumulated qi in the muscles, it won't do much. If you have and you then go slim, you will have qi dispersion, called san gong, much like a tire full of air deflating. It depends on the nature of qi flow. If you have the jin consolidated in the muscles without any kind of flow like SOME hard stylists, then it will disperse. If you have flow, then it won't disperse that much. The danger lies in what you do with the jin.
I tolderate iron thread. You don't have to contract the muscles when you do the form, it allows the force to flow. It relies on the postures in co-ordination with rooting of earth to consolidate the force. When you look at Lam Sai Wing, you see his muscles weren't overdeveloped, but they were very hard. If one can maintain flexibility and vigorous qi flow, then there won't be any problems.
Fajin
i know i’m not an illusion, so a jokes a a joke.
sometimes maybe we take ourselves a bit too seriously.-Yes. And I think it’s been the root of the discord.
when your inner smile is genuine, then the outer smile is genuine, then all is well.
comming is fine, going is fine, being here is fine, relax and let it all flow.
Relax. Yes. The amount of undue tension we can create from holding onto things is unreal. Inner smile, inner smile, inner smile…Aaaahhh.
yeah, to me, the only reason one would HAVE to take a break from this forum, or decide to leave all together, (having been so intensly involved in the first place) would be because they were exerting a lot of energy here by taking it all too seriously. otherwise, like i said – comming- going what’s the diference?
AA *The amount of undue tension we can create from holding onto things is unreal*
yeah i sometimes ask myself, “why are you holdoing onto that crap”? (whatever it might be) then i kind of laugh and it all feel lighter
in australia we have a common saying : “no worries mate”
maybe this should be the mantra for the world?
>>the only reason one would HAVE to take a break from this forum, or decide to leave all together, (having been so intensly involved in the first place) would be because they were exerting a lot of energy here by taking it all too seriously.<<
*When people start to get a negative impression of me when I discuss with them, I have a major flaw that needs work. I need to work on that.
Bye,
FajinIt is hard for people to understand as well as talk to each other partially do to the fact we live in our own microcosm. Just like in science laws and language just depending on the level from quantum to biological. Yes there need to be a better way. I find trying my best not to assume is a great first step. But speaking from the heart, through compassion, and clearing our psychic channels will should help us in the future. There are some republican cristians I know that where listening to John Lennon’s song Image(I think)it is not the lyrics that the power resides, if that where the case I know they would not be listening. No I believe it to be the vibe that is received so well. So feel the vibe. Just my two cents. We are all musicians, and our intent is heard every where. Also be kind and respectful to each other know who you speak with. Much love, I might not be on in for awhile, I am going to practice, and get out of the house more. I have found this forum to be a great tool in my development. Peace
We are all musicians, and our intent is heard every where. Also be kind and respectful to each other know who you speak with. Much love, I might not be on in for awhile, I am going to practice, and get out of the house more.
-OK, so you’re going out to walk the dog for awhile. I understand.
Come back periodically so we can avail ourselves of your wisdom and good vibes.--Love, A
Fajin,
F> The main difference is the non-thinking is not grasping to those thoughts. .. As Dogen says, put your thinking in the palm of you hand. >
I would agree that not getting attached, entangled, in train-of-thought is a step in the right direction re: meditation.
F> Yes idle thoughts die, not the thinking process. >
I disagree. I still assert that, as meditation deepens, thinking stops altogether for periods of time. Not just idle, discursive, thoughts, but all thoughts, all conceptualization, the whole “thinking process” ceases for periods of time.
This doesn’t mean that you can’t think again, ever. It just means that you get better at turning the thinking process off and on.
I say this as a matter of personal experience, myself, and a number of friends that I’ve known in several meditation groups.
F> I put that article in there to show some that Zen doesn’t make people’s mind like a rock. >
Nope, more like a clear sky. 🙂
Trunk
>>I disagree. I still assert that, as meditation deepens, thinking stops altogether for periods of time… This doesn’t mean that you can’t think again, ever. It just means that you get better at turning the thinking process off and on<>I say this as a matter of personal experience<<
*That makes the two of us.
At first, the eyes stop blinking and your palms are only felt (for me), then you feel like you are no longer sitting, the body freezes, breathing is very slow, body becomes immaterial completely.
Then you start witnessing thoughts as if you were someone else reading someone's thoughts, then they slowly disappear and deep stillness occurs. Could go hours in this state.
That's my experience.
Taking a break from forums, your ideas of finding stillness within the deep centers is extraordinary. It is what we do here in the Wudang lineage too. Would love to talk to you more about it when I get back.
Nice chatting,
FajinFajin,
F> we don’t attempt to “beat the idle thoughts to death,” just let them pass by like the birds in the sky or fish in the sea. >
Agreed with the principle and experience that one can’t “effort” the thoughts to stop. 🙂
> Taking a break from forums, >
Healthy. 🙂
Look fwd to a hello after you return.Trunk
I think michael said that consciousness is immortal and does not die, while the goal of alchemy is to acheive a unification of ones personal and greater self that will continue in other planes after death, achieving a type of “personal” immortality (while still being merged with the stellar mind of course). this is opposed to the five shen scattering and going back into a collective pool of consciousness that continues to be immortal but not as a personal self. The immortality of the personal self is also a natural process, but not guaranteed by a physical existance, as people can have many internal conflicts.
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