October 12, 2006 at 8:28 pm #18598
Not to inflame anyone’s irritation, BUT,
in light of posts since I was here last:
I began experimenting with entheogens (psychedelic chemicals) some 13 years ago..
I found I was part of an ancient stream of psychonauts/artists, musicians
who had found similar results from similar potions.. in fact, i was part of one of the world’s most ancient forms of spirituality, if not it’s first..
The result: tidal wave sof hieroglyphic information downloading into my “brain” (yes, the true upper brain) and nervous system… vast archives of information..
The physical result: a great book by a guy named JJ Hurtak.. covering neurochemistry, hieroglyphic info downloads, and everything you ever wanted to read about meridians, morphogenetic fields, and shin..
Do I think meridians are real? probably.. are they testable, most likely..
Does the air have metal chi or is VEnus metal, I have no idea but I’ll try the practice..
Does the lower cauldron result in whole body pleasure? probably , but THC works fast.October 13, 2006 at 2:55 am #18599
With regard to your position on using substances I have to say that if one occassionally uses a spiritual medicine in a highly discriminating fashion as an aid to opening consciousness and as a tertiary support to a consistent practice such as chi gung, then you are in alignment with the time-tested methods of the ancients who allowed wisdom to grow through experience and understood the importance of not forcing their evolution.
What you seem to be espousing is the habitual consumption of chemicals designed to force open passageways in the brain to give you the effect of having higher consciousness. But, in fact, the simple truth is that if you have to use a drug to get there then you do not own the experience. If you cannot “get there” without the drug, then not only are you not EMBODYING the greater consciousness, but you are actually destroying the vehicle you created for your growth.
You may find that “THC works fast” but once it’s out of your system the experience becomes a memory, you come back to relatively similar condition as you were in before except that your physical body is depleted of another significant measure of its primary energy, and rather than having increased your innate connection with your original self and the source, you instead have increased your sense of separation from it, making you more desperate.
It is clear from the general focus of your posts that you are trying to get out of your body through your mind to something greater. This is backwards. The ultimate answer is to stop “doing” and to stop running. Then you will find what you think you are looking for inside you organically. And you won’t have to go looking for planets. They will come to you.
Be at peace,
AlexanderOctober 13, 2006 at 5:25 am #18601
I can’t speak from experience using chemicals for the very reason that my ‘normal’ experiences are already ‘big’ enough to digest.
The most difficult thing with downloads is the amount and the way you are able to digest and integrate it in a normal life situation, meaning in your body. Because depending on the amount and the ability for you to store it in your system it can become a very hard issue. It tends to take you out of your body and/or into your mind/head where it starts to live a seperate life. These things starts to CONTROL untill you really understand, digest and give it a place in your life. Only then that wisdom is PART of you.
But be very aware of the dangers using chemicals. It takes you into the unknown which you can not stop nor control. It weakens your aura, makes holes in it, so you become very volunerable over time when there is no proper inner cultivation, this takes time, patience and effort. Make sure you counter balance it with some kind of down- to- earth- practice. You will be not the first nor the last who starts to flip because of major undigested unintegrated downloads.
Reading your posts you are still in the middle of that process, which can go either way.
Read this as a support … as a genuine concern.October 13, 2006 at 9:34 am #18603
just because there’s some radiation possibly detectable by some aspect of the pineal gland doesn’t mean it has some tangible substance.. sounds like yours is flaccid anywayOctober 13, 2006 at 9:47 am #18605
It’s always fun to watch spiritual people’s responses when someone volunteers a real experience using real chemicals with real effects that have been time tested for 10,000 yearsOctober 13, 2006 at 10:01 am #18607
Dont worry I am not looking for enlightenment… but thanks for your concern and I apologize for responding to Intelligence in an adult manner, it looks we are back to the little boys game here… oh well have funOctober 13, 2006 at 10:59 am #18609
Now there’s an Acid TestOctober 13, 2006 at 1:30 pm #18611
I looked at JJ Hurtak stuff. I liked alot of it. How he views people as consciousness. Consciousness talking to consciousness. I feel this understanding would yeild more respect and maybe acceptance between people. “What ever you do unto the poorest of man you do onto me.” Jesus Christ. He talked about the halogrom we all make. He used the word evolution even “higher evolution” this is great. He seems to be working on bring the truth out about womens role in Jesus’s life, mainly how important they where. I am not shure why you thought this would inflame people on this board. We are concerned about abuse of a powerful substance. THis is out of compassion for you or anyone. You can only throw homeostasis off so much.
Peace be with you.October 13, 2006 at 4:31 pm #18613
You seem to have deliberately bypassed my point about how the ancients did not just use substances. They were grounded in all the same kinds of real practices that we are here. Those practices were the foundation of their lives.
The energies you are emanating through your words are the proof that what Wendy and I have said is the truth. Your emotions are hostile and your thinking is dangerous and imbalanced. Rather than showing an openness, you display an insulting and agressive immaturity. Wake the fuck up.
AlexanderOctober 13, 2006 at 5:27 pm #18615October 14, 2006 at 12:16 am #18617October 14, 2006 at 12:22 am #18619
perhpas they are as tunnel visioned and fraught with self contradiction as I think they are..
ever notice how “normal” healthy sexually happy people never talk about how grounded they are?
hmm..October 14, 2006 at 12:28 am #18621
The book is a mix.. the concepts of evolution, consciousness, genetics, third eye holography, etc are as fascinating as it gets..
the Father and Metatron at the center of the Universe are a leap to say the least..
How can a book be such a mix of the absurd and the phenomenol? perhaps it’s time for a workshop
The book posits the resurrection of Yeshuah, the supremacy of YHVY as atomic morphogenetic super intelligence, and the interaction of all within a framework of intergalactic consciousness fields..
Whew.. mix in some babel, aliens, and activated right brain channels and you’ve got an epic..October 14, 2006 at 12:40 am #18623
I have not read the book just read an artical. Sounds like its packed. You say metatron is in there, that would explain why he is doing something with Carlos Santana.October 14, 2006 at 7:13 am #18625
Let me honor you with my dream of last night, very short:
We ALL are still walking in the mist, and what we do see is blurred and misty, so everything I share here is what I can see in that mist, there is no absolute truth in my words just a very partial personal interpretation of what I think is a tree…
unlicensed = yes
pseudo sham prognosis= correct
wannabe know it all= very correct
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