August 16, 2014 at 1:12 am #42767
… Yesterday’s foolishness.
This is a great forum. At the moment, this is something I’m contemplating:
“Human Ego-self is central to the evolution of the Life Force process. Human micro self is not an aberration that is meant to be eliminated, stopped, or escaped from. We are IINTENTIONALLY born incomplete, i.e. imperfect, fucked-up, confused, and ignorant so that we can integrate those incomplete/lost aspects floating about in the cosmic sea of the life force back into a conscious functioning whole.
The Life Forces gives birth to us so that we can express its process in the density of physicality. Central to that process is to clarify what is hidden within the polarity of sexuality,i.e. lost yuan chi from the splitting of the sexes that started a cycle of fragmentation.
OUR INDIVIDUAL (I..E. EGO) EXPERIENCE OF LIFE, EVEN IF BORN FROM FRAGMENTARY SEXUAL OR OTHER DESIRES, AND EVEN THE EXPERIENCE OF INCOMPLETION ITSELF, IS STILL AN ESSENTIAL FEEDBACK MECHANISM OF THE LIFE FORCE AND ITS ORIGINAL DESIRE TO PROCREATE.”
– Michael Winn
I’ll be patientthere are so many good conversations here. Respectfully, I am amused.
I am imperfect, fucked-up, confused, and ignorant, too!
“One afternoon, Nasruddin and his friend were sitting in a cafe, drinking tea and talking about life and love. His friend asked: ‘How come you never married?’
‘Well,’ said Nasruddin, ‘to tell you the truth, I spend my youth looking for the perfect woman. In Cairo I met a beautiful and intelligent woman, but she was unkind. Then in Baghdad, I met a woman who was a wonderful and generous soul, but we had no common interests. One woman after another would seem just right, but there would always be something missing. Then one day, I met her; beautiful, intelligent, generous and kind. We had very much in common. In fact, she was perfect!’
‘So, what happened?’ asked Nasruddin’s friend, ‘Why didn’t you marry her?’
Nasruddin sipped his tea reflectively. ‘Well,’ he replied, ‘it’s really the sad story of my life…. It seemed that she was looking for the perfect man…’ ”August 26, 2014 at 10:36 pm #42768
case 1: protein goop, automated, dies back to darkness eternal; whole “universe” DOD
case 2: “GOD”/Brahmin/Oversoul, whole reality self engineered, “YOU ARE GOD”
case 3: “GOD”/Brahmin/Oversoul experiencing itself as protein goop, details*
maybe the rue self is vapid and one sided…
certainly not a vector matrix…August 26, 2014 at 10:37 pm #42770
maybe the true self is vapid and one sided…
certainly not a vector matrix…September 2, 2014 at 2:48 am #42772
“In Mayan tradition, there is a greeting that many people working with Mayan wisdom know of. It is the law of In Lak’ech Ala K’in, which means I am another yourself (A modern day interpretation). It also means I am you, and you are me (A traditional Mayan interpretation). We have come to understand that this Mayan greeting is an honoring for each other. It is a statement of unity and oneness. In Lak’ech Ala K’in mirrors the same sentiment of other beautiful greetings such as Namaste for East India, Wiracocha for the Inca, and Mitakuye Oyasin for the Lakota. It doesn’t matter which culture you come from. But when one of these sacred greetings is given, there is always an action of placing the hands over the heart.”
What is beautiful to you?September 2, 2014 at 2:57 am #42774
I said to God, Let me love you.
And he replied, Which part?
All of you, all of you. I said.
Dear God spoke, You are as a mouse wanting to impregnate
a tiger who is not even in heat. It is a feat way
beyond your courage and strength.
You would run from me
if I removed my
I said to God again,
Beloved I need to love you every aspect, every pore.
And this time God said,
There is a hideous blemish on my body,
though it is such an infinitesimal part of my Being-
could you kiss that if it were revealed?
I will try, Lord, I will try.
And then God said,
That blemish is all the hatred and
cruelty in this
~ Saint Thomas Aquinas
from Love Poems from God, by Daniel Ladinsky
The first time I read this poem, it moved me deeply, and it moves me now. Why? I don’t know. It is an imperfect poem, and I love it. It works even better for me when I change the last word (world) to my name.September 2, 2014 at 1:48 pm #42776
>>>The first time I read this poem, it moved me deeply,
>>>and it moves me now. Why? I don’t know.
If you look at it closely, the underlying idea is self-acceptance.
This is the Inner Smile.
SSeptember 3, 2014 at 4:37 am #42778
The first time I smiled, accepting myself, it moved me deeply; it moves me deeply now. Why? I don’t know.
What? Deeply moved by another poem for the first time:
I worried a lot. Will the garden grow, will the rivers
flow in the right direction, will the earth turn
as it was taught, and if not how shall
I correct it?
Was I right, was I wrong, will I be forgiven,
can I do better?
Will I ever be able to sing, even the sparrows
can do it and I am, well,
Is my eyesight fading or am I just imagining it,
am I going to get rheumatism,
Finally I saw that worrying had come to nothing.
And gave it up. And took my old body
and went out into the morning,
~ Mary Oliver
from Swan: Poems and Prose Poems
Smiling with my Inner Mullah Nasruddin smile.September 3, 2014 at 12:31 pm #42780
The Tao is the natural embodiment of change and of what is.
Lack of self-acceptance is an underlying resistance to what is.
Give up this resistance, and you come into harmony with the Tao.
SSeptember 4, 2014 at 2:18 am #42782
Studying texts and stiff meditation can make you lose your Original Mind.
A solitary tune by a fisherman, though, can be an invaluable treasure.
Dusk rain on the river, the moon peeking in and out of the clouds;
Elegant beyond words, he chants his songs night after night.
―Ikkyū translated by John Stevens
A poem is nothing special, but the moment of discovery is. Why? Truly, I don’t think anyone could know the answer to ribosome777’s question.
“Express yourself completely, then keep quiet. Be like the forces of nature: when it blows, there is only wind; when it rains, there is only rain; when the clouds pass, the sun shines through. If you open yourself to the Tao, you are at one with the Tao and you can embody it completely. If you open yourself to insight, you are at one with insight and you can use it completely. If you open yourself to loss, you are at one with loss and you can accept it completely. Open yourself to the Tao, then trust your natural responses; and everything will fall into place.”
– Chapter 23
They say that it is better to be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt. I don’t mind, and I do appreciate when another takes the time to communicate what I hadn’t seen. Poems are nice because they can reach the head and/or the heart… and maybe more. I’ll admit to ignorance. To be somewhat concise, I consider feeling to be as real as thought, and therefore strive for balance. A poem that resonates deeply with me in the moment is a rare treasure, and I try not to dissect it. Marrying thought with feeling, sometimes the messages give me valuable insight without losing the mysterious quality of unknown territory.
For example, the poem by Mary Oliver had me consider the nature of the Earth element (my birth element):
The Day Stem is also called the Day Master and is your personal element, it reflects the most important aspect of personality.
When a person is under stress they often express themselves in the unfavorable aspects of the Day Stem. When a person is balanced and in harmony the favorable aspects manifest.
This is a Earth person.
Fairness is often a predominant quality
Tend to be steady and do not move as fast as others, but what they lack in speed they make up with consistency and longevity.
They do not like to waste their time in grand schemes or ideas, instead they plow through the realities of a situation.
Good at management and organizing, they can be trusted with implementing a plan.
Not overly emotional but are sensitive
Tend to be worriers, in fact they may worry about everything not only their direct life but everything in the universe.
Very focused, which may lead to a single-mindedness that hinders versatility and the ability to handle multiple factors simultaneously.
Expect the rest of the world to view life as they do.
Earth types can become stubborn and rigid.
They respond well to change if it is slow and gradual, abrupt change disturbs them.”
Am I listening to messages from my organs when I am moved by correspondences such as hatred and cruelty to heart? Or courage to lungs? Beyond the theme of Inner Smiling, this is what I wonder about what I have posted to this thread.
“Birth Year Animal is Ox
Hard working, tenacious, goal oriented, logical, traditional, disciplined, good managers and very loyal. Can be too rigid and should focus on relaxing and being flexible. Not good at delegating and should focus on changing that. They can be good public speakers.”
Replace “God” and “Lord” with “Tao” or “Great Mother” if that helps:
Listen, my friend, this road is the heart opening,
kissing his feet, resistance broken, tears all night.
If we could reach the Lord through immersion in water,
I would have asked to be born a fish in this life.
If we could reach Him through nothing but berries and wild nuts
then surely the saints would have been monkeys when they came
from the womb!
If we could reach him by munching lettuce and dry leaves
then goats would surely get to the Holy One before us!
If the worship of stone stature could bring us all the way,
I would have adored a granite mountain years ago.
Mirabai says, “The heat of midnight tears will bring you to God.”
translation by Robert BlySeptember 4, 2014 at 11:36 pm #42784
You wrote, “…That’s why it is worth considering.
Followers of this path are interested in spiritual
cultivation, and getting very clear, clearing away
the layers of emotions, traumas, and other fluff
that gets in the way of being able to live from
the core of your true self, from being able to live
centered in your being . . . The less clutter you
have buried in your infrastructure, the more spiritual
force you have to be able to connect beyond yourself
and develop more of an enlightened spirit.
You have to face it, to erase it.
And that takes a tremendous amount of courage.
Smoking, on the other hand, is by far easier . . .
However, it does not clear away the root issue.
Instead, that is left for later.
But if you instead work on centering yourself in
your being, and creating a neutral space where these
things can dissolve, then over time you will see
real rewards. It is something that you will
experience directly for yourself, and you will
not need to enter into a theoretical discussion
to have someone convince you.
But you do not have to believe me.
I in no way feel that to be a requirement.”
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