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Train in gong fu for 10 years

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  • This topic has 6 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 17 years, 1 month ago by Dog.
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  • April 8, 2008 at 6:46 pm #28115
    atxryan
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    Dr. Yang, Jwing Ming is creating a non-profit retreat center where people will go and train for 10 years.
    http://www.ymaa.com/netcasts/episode2
    More details here:
    http://www.taijiquan.com/
    It would be awesome for HT to have something like this.

    April 9, 2008 at 5:17 pm #28116
    Dog
    Participant

    If you realy want to progress faster there is nothing like modern life to challenge you. But us it all collect essence from nature, humanity, and heaven.
    Search for your core your essence it is the key to adaptability. Instead of removing your self from the challenge us the energy from that polarity to be creative and advance in your wisdom and understanding. Bruce lee said “be like water”, he searched for the essence of martial arts and how to carry that essence in to modern times. He was very open minded and flowed with the times, and met the challenge of adapting old ways to the new world to better serve humanity. There is an essence to all religions, very simple, very adaptable, hopefully relized soon.
    Just my first impressions, and thoughts.

    April 10, 2008 at 4:59 pm #28118
    atxryan
    Participant

    Word, Dog. I think that HT has a really great setup as it is, I wasn’t trying to disrespect it in any way (not to say that you said I was). In The Tao of Meditation Jou, Tsung Hua said something similar, he made a comparison to a flower having to grow outside and handle the weather and whatnot (training in modern life) compared to a flower grown in a green house that is protected (training in a remote area), and how the one outside could grow stronger as a result.
    Peace

    April 11, 2008 at 2:39 am #28120
    Steven
    Moderator

    I’m not so negative to the idea as Dog is.
    Your suggestion sort of sounds good to me; of course, you’d
    have to get a number of highly motivated people and someone
    willing to devote a lot of time to running the thing.

    The reality is, is that if you have a strong desire for
    a long period of dedicated practice, there are ways to make
    that happen for yourself that doesn’t really require any
    structure.

    Personally, I like to go a couple of times a year to
    a hermitage, and do some deep internal work. This involves
    bringing a portable DVD player, qigong and meditation DVDs, some
    books, and not much else other than a desire to do some
    serious stuff.

    Of course for the in-person training aspect, there is the
    Healing Tao Retreats which run every summer, but with
    qigong, meditation, and spirituality, I’m not sure it’s
    necessary to have daily in-person instruction as it is
    maybe more so with martial arts. After learning some tools,
    it is up to the individual to practice and cultivate on
    their own. This is where the idea I suggested comes into play.

    At least for me, after a period of time in retreat,
    I return to the world, and interact once again.

    For me, this creates new observations and new experiences.
    It satisfies the craving for a period of intensive work, yet
    means that I’m not giving up the world.

    In other words, you can have both.
    You don’t need to choose.

    Best,
    Steven

    April 11, 2008 at 5:13 pm #28122
    Dog
    Participant

    I did not say it does not have its place(I always enjoyed summer camp). I was in one hand making a commit about any institutions that feels it must change society to fit its dogma, wahabists for example, or on the other hand leaving society because it is challenging your own dogmas or beliefs, suicide being an extreme case of this. On the other hand I was challenging the hidden Idea I felt, that monostary life will necceserialy produce “better” results(I find most that pay 40,000 or more for collage get ripped off, and education should not cost that much). I find solitary(different then monostary life) and society life will be more challenging.

    April 11, 2008 at 9:52 pm #28124
    Steven
    Moderator

    In large part I agree. In particular, monasteries I think
    are far too limiting. Usually they have one particular vision, and
    you have very little breathing room for creating your own vision.
    You sort of have to fit a certain mold and do so under the belief
    that “it’s good for you”.

    It’s not necessarily bad though to change society and create a
    different vision. Current society has a lot of dysfunctions in
    it also, and there is the possibility for a better model–so
    I wouldn’t necessarily dismiss a different vision completely out
    of hand. Something set up in the right way could possibly be
    good; it depends on the nature of the system . . .

    S

    April 12, 2008 at 11:06 am #28126
    Dog
    Participant

    Be the change you wish to see in the world.

    “It’s not necessarily bad though to change society and create a
    different vision. Current society has a lot of dysfunctions in
    it also, and there is the possibility for a better model–so
    I wouldn’t necessarily dismiss a different vision completely out
    of hand. Something set up in the right way could possibly be
    good; it depends on the nature of the system . . . ”

    I gave my example of this with Bruce Lee.

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