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April 30, 2006 at 11:27 pm #13372johnathanParticipant
hey Swedich Dragon,
thanks for your feedback, i’m glad that you have been gaining insights
i want to say that porn is not bad, but for specific/certain/individuals such as you, me and other people it can be. I know people who watch porn on a seldom basis, and are not addicted or messed up in any way by it, its just like those people who smoke, drink and do drugs seldomly and are not addicted, and are completely near healthly still.
for us i think it was something in our childhood which triggered us to easily get addicted to porn, for me i think as a kid, the adults i was around watched porn, or sexually explicit material, i was also living with people, and had school friends back in grade school who looked at porn magainze. So as a kid i didnt know what this was, and was wrongly taught. I still remember the first time i saw porn.. seeing the naked people, it was very intense.. it had this very.. weird flavour and feeling seeing people naked… very sexual, and almost very intense to see so much skin, and the acts was just beyond me.. but as a kid we absorb, and micmick whatever we see, so the school kids bringing porn to school was not a good foundation for sexual education
i also grew up as a lonely, afraid of girls, wimpy kid, as i was growing up especially in teen and late young adult years i wanted be manly, i started to read up on penis excerises, techniques methods to enhance sex, love, i wanted to be a lady’s man, i wanted to be so good in sex for women, and wanted them.. to the point of dominating etc because of fearing them etc… so watching porn fulfilled my loneliness and fear. I was too scared and made fun of by peers for not having girlfriends, or being shy around girls, at the same time i was watching porn and seeing girls being harassed and treated in unusal ways.. my reality was being manipulated and bended at such a fragile age for the mind..
this led to a shit load of emotional imbalance.. lots of anger, hatred, explosive behaviour, i was a complete mess… then it was acutally thanks to having relationships with girls, having sex with them, and going out with them, watching more porn etc.. that reality and fantasy started to click in!
PORN and REAL WORLD DONT MIX, you can’t force or expect a girl to act, be, and dress, behave like a pornstar, its all fake crap, thats when reality started to click, thats when relationship was hell, but things made sense, within the BAD there was good.. it was teaching me a lesson, that porn had really messed me up, that this was mindless, and most importantly i was losing my life energy. From here i finally admited and realized i had a serious problem, from here i wanted to see females in the proper way, get reality and fantasy straight… i started to watch less media… the MEDIA IS VERY DANGEROUS.. for sex… it usses a lot of sex DIRECTLY and INDIRECTLY!!
music videos, celebrities, commercials, ads, moovies, all of those things are dangerous things that gets our reality and fantasy mixed up…
anyways now that i look back everything worked out, within all the bad there was good.. though i wish i didnt have to get in this mess in the first place, when i looked back i learned a lot, and it was through this hardship and negative events which led me to mature more, to learn more about myself, to respect myself as in physical body, mind, and soul, and utliamtely to respect and to love others as well
i’m so glad.. because now i really cherious sex.. its not just some mindless physical thing, its the power to create new life.. thats intense.. its also a sacred experience, something so profound, so beyond that sex cannot be something taught, or expressed… becasue it is unique for all individuals, couples etc.. the sponstaonus, the moment, the now arrises in true sex.. its not about methods, or knowing how to give blowjobs, or bang a lady, or man properly.. its about the fun, the energy harmony, the balance, the unity.. and so much more which i cannot describe because i have not experience yet..
anyways i guess it was desinted that i had to post and start the forum thing, so that those in need would read and would be helped, and there are many in our situation, and i’m glad many have shown great support! and feedback! so thank you again to everyone for contributing!
i wish great compassion, and great will, have faith and trust in “soul” your “heart” it will eventually guide you the right way, within the bad is the good, and do not give up, as long as you are alive you can make a difference! so its never too late!
*smile of compassion!*
April 30, 2006 at 11:32 pm #13374FajinParticipantHi Pietro,
Very nice post! It looks like you put alot of thought into it. I will isolate certain aspects that I feel there is a need to continue.
>>According to Aajonus Vonderplanitz (*1, pg 259), for example, “Bones, teeth, nerves, and tissue in general deteriorate when fed only fruit.”.<>You find similar description at the site beyondveg.com. The site is the answer from a person who has been 8 years living as an instincto fructarian, very similar to you.<>Don’t you think that in those 400 times 10000 years we have somehow adapted to our meat eating ‘new’ destiny. Also considering that there are whole populations that eat only meat?<>And this brings us to our next topic. Fat and dairies. I have already wrote a long post on fats. Read it. It has also an answer from Michael.<>[DAIRY]<>Why? Because in cold Siberia alcohol is necessary to keep your body warm.<>Another example: Gandhi. As you know he was vegetarian. Vegan according to our modern language. When in the 40’s he was in England he had to leave and go back to India. Why? Because he was ill and the doctor has essentially told him, either you eat meat, or you drink milk, or you go back to India or you die.<>But if you have someone, like Jonathan, who has a serious case of physical debilitation (sorry J.) you cannot suggest him to thrive on fruits.<<
*Fruits, nuts, and seeds. He gets, full list of amino acids, necessary fats, and all the required micronutrients, with plenty of alkalinization due to high green chlorophyll, lots of biophotons, and emotional and mental stability, and a super-powered immune system.
YOur story was touching, Pietro. I definately agree that raw meat, raw dairy, raw honey, etc. raw etc. is better than their cooked counterparts. But raw fruits, nuts, and seeds are all one needs. Raw meat and dairy are worse than JUST raw fruits, nuts, and seeds.
Pietro, are you a HealingDao instructor? What is your lineage? Thanks!
Smiles to you Pietro,
FajinApril 30, 2006 at 11:34 pm #13376johnathanParticipanthey Pietro!
thanks always for sharing your insightful experience, and support!
seeing it as it, is the best remedy you recommended, as in when we look at beautiful women in magazines etc, its all a show.. all set up, camera, costumes, fake look, snap.. thats the reality, when we view it that way.. then the urge, the fantasy is gone! thank goodness!
I want to ask you something, this question came up, remember you said you did HT practices for a quite a bit, but you stopped
can i ask why you stopped? you also said you had a serious health problem, depeltion in blood, etc.
Didn’t the HT practices help you? i mean is there something I know about HT practices or anything which should be of concern.. i remember a pharmacist told me that one of her friends from china practices chi kung and screwed himself completed, he lost his mind and this is with the aid and guidance of a teacher…
there were other stories too, where lots of people screwed themselves over from not being grounded, etc
IS that why you tell me to becareful with the microcosmibt orbit excercise?
I got scared last time cause a lot of pressure got built up in my jade pillow, i mean i could feel pressure, stress there, my head felt so heated up, heavy, and pressure from blood or whtevare, it resulted in headaches and cramps in head/neck area as well. I didnt know what to do.. all i did was massage, and imagine all the energy going to the naval.. it helped a bit.. but the best thing i did was go to sleep and pray it would fix itself, and i woke up next morning feeling better and the pressure was gone! whew!
April 30, 2006 at 11:48 pm #13378johnathanParticipantyoyo guys
i think both you guys are right, i think Pietro’s diet plan works, and yours as well Fajin, it all ultimately depends on the individual, i’ve tried both of the suggestions that you guys suggested and for me i did the fruitian thing for a bit, but found it made me really deficent, i got cold and wind very easily, my hands, feet, and body were cold even on warm days. Basically on the fruitian diet i had all the nutirnets but it made me very cool… this is also because of my condition from being drained from jing, sexual activtiy thats why its not working 100%, but i’m sure it will hopefully when i heal to Fajin’s level. I added meat as Pietro recommended, though I havent tried raw yet meat yet, but I have eaten meat. The meat has helped a lot, it just seem to give me the yang, and heat which needed to balance my coolness. The meat also gave me energy, but i found when I ate to much meat, it gave me too much heat, yang, and made things hard to digest, and i got weaker and slower. So I have been trying to balance everything, right now i’m mixing moderate amount of meat, with lots of veges and it is working great for me, i also add in some nuts and seeds but not to much because it starts clogging up and causes to much heat like meat, and i’m all good, so far its working and i’m sure i will have to adjust and change my diet as my body changes/heals.
So i think both you guys have valid points, and it really depends on the person body, mind, soul, state, orgin, race, genetics, environment, and all the other factors, this is what makes the world wonderful! and wacky! becasue we are all so different, yet similar!
ever since you guys have been giving help and support, i have done a lot of research, and to be honest.. i always find both side to each story, i hear good and bad about everything.. for example, about raw meat i hear good and bad, about fruit diet i hear good and bad as well becasue the truth is.. it is good and bad! depending on the situation/ circumstance/ person/ etc.
so the best thing to do is test things out on yourself, and see if it works for you, if it does, then great! if it doesnt then you gotta move on, but don’t disown it because it can work for another person
anyways thanks again to the both of you guys again, you guys have provided a lot of insights, and support i’m learning so much everything from you guys, and from doing the excercises, and other recommednations you guys gave
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I have noticed one problem though, spring has just arrived and i thought i was sick at first, but it was allergies!!
i think thats why my eyes have been WEAK! because of allergies, cause i did the eye practices, and ate well and did all i could but my eyes, and nose, and head was still just completelely messed up.
I keep sneezing a lot, and keep having running nose! clear fluid! nonstop throughout the day! its making my eyes tired, weak, nose inflammed, sored, and head pressured up and hurting, and overall weakness, energy lost, tiredness!
is there some sort of cure! chi kung practice, or something i can eat!
i hope someone can help, because i was feeling great for couple weeks during healing process, then bam! somehow allergies started to come and i’m completely in a mess!
May 1, 2006 at 12:00 am #13380FajinParticipantHi Jonathon,
You are correct. You have drained too much jing and your body is very cool as a result. Try eating more red fruits and red peppers. Drink lots of tea too.
About allergies, try practicing the liver sound alot. This will help out. When you do the microcosmic orbit, focus on the solar plexus area alot. There is a blockage there.
Hope that helps, continue on with your journey,
FajinMay 1, 2006 at 3:23 pm #13382JernejParticipantreal knowledge is internalized
it is not the thought you had
it is the thought you connected to
and then let gofish roe (eggs), bee honey, cow milk
all the very raw substance from the female side of speciesyou squirt male ching
bull’s semen, man’s semen
are all very raw substances from the male side of speciessemen and blood are two substances that are usually reserved for ceremonies
their intake should be ceremonial
as goes for any foodmany seasoned males and females
went on their knees
all fours
for the hungerit is a game
and it is warmicrocosmic orbit
fusion
are top level sexual practices in themselves
but it take time for the heat to start cooking youthe big draw the power draw
is just a party toolit feels like upper chest breathing
chia dao yin, bruce kumar breathing tape, winn empty force breathing are interestingMay 1, 2006 at 3:54 pm #13384JernejParticipantalchemicaltaoism.com is an interesting read
nowMay 1, 2006 at 6:08 pm #13386johnathanParticipantthanks Jernej
May 6, 2006 at 6:26 am #13388JernejParticipantDalai passed his exams twice.
To prove his excell.Being crowned twice.
To make it sure.
What a king.May 6, 2006 at 6:35 am #13390JernejParticipantGandhi was fond of going to bed with his neice.
Regardless of form it took place.
Such acting is later heaven external alchemy.A great way to keep to the letter of his word.
But then he also blessed his army fighter attacts.
(Osho accounts.)
May 8, 2006 at 5:53 am #13392JernejParticipantthe original sin of external alchemy
he vowed to celibacy/internal cultivation
he practised external feeding/external cultivationhis hunger
a facthis social standing
a excuse for perversion of his hungerMay 8, 2006 at 9:07 am #13394JernejParticipant1. he was old and she was young
2. he was male and she was femaletwo choices made by him
any pattern?she could use any old hog if all he saught was femininity
any woman just waits to awake
yet he chose youngling
so: a rejouvenation effect from a vampire loreshe used her to develop her femininity…
he only resonated with her
or he drawed her young substance in
suck it in his space in then cultivate
considering the first consideration, do you believe it was just neutral resonance or was eating involvedyou don’t need proximity unless exchange of gross energy is needed
generallyeating is external alchemy
the skill is in digesting itit doesn’t take taking clothes off to have sex
it doesn’t take cutting troats to feed on somebody (basic management or icke’s zulu shaman lamenting)his movement included voluntary death of many humans
perhaps it was many and one moreMay 8, 2006 at 3:11 pm #13396FajinParticipant>>basic management or icke’s zulu shaman lamenting<<
You have knowledge of Reptilians.
May 11, 2006 at 5:39 am #13398PietroParticipantSo essentially you don’t know.
You list a whole series of elements that you believe being true, and as if there was a logical implication you try to bring the reader to assume that Gandhi did indeed vampirise his niece. But there is no logical implication, so you say “perhaps”.
Ok, perhaps. But we don’t really know.
Also this way of speaking, as if you were the Pythia, has the effect of not taking responsability of what you are saying. At school we use to study the sentence: “you will go and return not you will die in war”.
Which can be translated as:
You will go and return. Not you will die in war.
You will go and return not. You will die in war.Similarly here, it seem to me that by only suggesting things, and hinting to things you are not really taking responsability for what you are saying.
It doesn’t hit me as a really smart thing to do, and maybe you might have noticed that I try to clarify what I say, what I mean, and why do I say so. I don’t do it always, but generally I try to.
I consider that if someone misunderstands me, and following that does something stupid, I am not fully innocent on what has happened.
How would you feel, for example, if someone reading your post would assume that the Gandhi family is involved in some evil rituals and harms them? Would you feel ok? Would you feel it was his choise? Maybe he is stupid. Stupidity exists. We need to write in a way not to be misunderstood also by stupid people.I know that in China there is a whole litterature in which things are hinted, and explained in symbols, with little or no redundancy. But you know, there was a period in taoism in which they stopped doing it because it was doing more harm than good. And this is why modern teachers make an effort to be as clear as possible. And this respect to the teachings, but where you really want to be fully clear is when you are saying things about another human being.
So let’s be grateful that we live in an era where teachings are available more clearly and let’s make our part of effort to be fully understood by speaking clearly.
Pietro
May 11, 2006 at 8:22 am #13400JernejParticipantHuman being has divine nature and I honour it. Thus I address humans as fully actualized and not as cogs of matter. A opportunity.
The Gandhi familiy did abstain from integrating the untouchables into the governmental structure, which was another Gandhi vow.
If people of different standing interact that causes affect. Consult a traditional medicine man for a advice if in doubt.
The only way to know anything is through contemplation.Don’t mistake virture of the ignorance and the power of the ignorant.
And giving in one’s heavenly root to a collective entity is a nice notion.It is difficult to isolate human being. ‘Gandhi’ was not just parental name implant, and without such implant the speak becomes weird.
My passion is unusual. I keep my space small as a societal adaptation. To know, to dare, to do, and to be silent. Thus my throat is not open and my dealing is shadow. So you might notice my contemplation (see rv post) as attact, though rv analysis and presentation was a sign of respect for expressing your practice, though at specific time I was involved in societal activities.
Feeling grateful for the mercy of the society
whah
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