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October 10, 2007 at 6:39 am #24794Swedich DragonParticipant
Hello Everybody. Haven´t been out for a long time now.
I had some experience whith “demons” ,I guess, some years ago. I had been reading a christian book of demons and how to get rid of them. While sleeping I had a dream and my rational mind did draw some wery fast conclusions, this most be a demon. Still not fully wake I behan to do some sermonice, words and sentenses mostly, like: “In the name of jesus christ i demand you to tell me ho you are and your name”. It started a reaction in my body. My hip started to vibrate and that made me curious so i continued with my talking to the demon. The experience did get more and more brutal and in the end my hall body jumped up and down in the bed, with the power from my hip. After a while it get ewen stronger and I was wery afraid and did raise up in the midle of the night and walked hesitatingly from one side of my apartment to the other. Couldn’t sleep for hours.
I was wery ill at the time when this happened. I had a burned out diagnosis and was also terrible cold in my body.
It is interesting to notice that Mantak Chia is writing about the psoas muscle and its regulation of cold and heat in the body. Ballancing emotins is also involved betwean the heart and the kidneys.
I was just reading about the vampirism under general at this forum and wanted to ad this story. Are still loking for solutions to my healt problem that today is better but not good.
Could this be someting that drains my energy like a demon or vampire or something else and what to do, how to exercise to make this better?
October 10, 2007 at 7:57 am #24795NnonnthParticipantIt’s been so long… I was going to ask how you are, but I guess your mail is telling me not that great, hope you are well at least in other respects?
On what you say I am going to answer you because this is something I do know something about. Other people are going to give different answers too I’m sure.
1. It is a nervous system problem. Don’t read too many books on demons and don’t talk to demons, this is really you talking to your own fears and making them more real.
2. Have a thorough physical checkup if you haven’t already, pref. from an alternative medicine doctor or TCM doctor or both. How is your diet etc.? Your kidney system will not be happy if there is all this cold. You could try a yin tonic from dragonherbs for example.
3. What are you practicing right now? For practice I can honestly recommend most of all sitting still and observing neutrally. Don’t even have to do this in a straight-spine position. Just allowing yourself to calm down. From what you say you are well in touch with what the body and energy system is doing, but it is not peaceful enough to do energy-moving practices, much better to let it settle and simply watch. Here they teach the smile, etc, that’s good too, but I prefer pure neutrality for this. See what is happening and try not interfere.
When you do this, be like the dutch miniaturist painter of 16th century who goes into his studio in the morning and must first of all wait for all the dust to settle so he can paint without dust going into the work. It will take a while but you will see results.
4. I would use magick to work on my personality and my fears. Some here would recommend instead NLP or Core Dynamics etc. The secret is just to get self-knowledge in some way or other, so you can see fears for what they are.
5. Without wishing to be personal, observe your sexual habits. These directly affect kidneys and nervous system. A period of abstinence can be good, doesn’t have to be long. This is nothing to do with ‘sex=bad’, think of it like fasting. (Michael went celibate a whole year once! ^_^)
6. Try not to worry about demons! Especially don’t read christian books on them because they were very paranoid themselves. Many of the things they called evil were not evil at all. Meeting something powerful and good can be as threatening to the ego as is meeting something evil.
7. In my opinion the use of the psoas muscle relates to the side channels. This however is not really relevant. Over-heat and over-cold are always in the end an overstrained nervous system in some way. I was asking about multiple sclerosis over on the ‘general’ board because a friend of mine has it. She has also problems with cold spots, obviously much more severe because etheric energy (jing) is out of control in that disorder. In my opinion observing neutrally your own energy will be very helpful for this, your own thoughts too. If you want to move energy use a moving form eg. one of the ones on this site which are great.
All I can think of! Jason
October 10, 2007 at 10:00 am #24797NnonnthParticipant… people like Dolphin have been interesting me with their medical applications. I work with herbs alot for magickal purposes. I’ve also been reading one of the Robert Shapiro ‘Explorer Race’ books, ‘Next Fifty Years’, which happened to be the cheapest one I could find… 🙂 sorry I couldn’t invest too heavily!
Anyway thought I’d share this. In one place in that book, the ‘Zoosh’ (the being Shapiro is channelling) mentions that a herb is not a herb is not a herb. I can’t find this place in the book just at present. A herb that is willing to be used for something, and asking to be, is much more effective than one that is pulled will-nilly from the ground. What Zoosh says is something like, 5mg of that herb will be more effective than 500mg of a herb that is picked randomly.
Magicians have known this a long time. Please understand: I don’t have a great faith in something like Wicca! There are alot of good intentions around but there isn’t enough art, science and hard work going on. There are wiccan books that tell you all the uses of herbs and when to pick them, they don’t tell you you have to talk to the plant. You have to speak to it and get to know it. In true magickal traditions you will find the magician does this; in Draja Mickaharic’s ‘A Century of Spells’ there is even a method for making a wand which depends on your ability to communicate with vines and a tree. You ask the vines to curl around a twig. For 2-3 years you visit the twig and speak to the tree and to the vines. You have the tree’s permission to do this and cut the twig at the end. Otherwise you don’t do so. (BTW the vines form a double helix, you are making harmony with earth energy).
I know not everyone here is working with herbs or anything like that. I wanted to say this because it relates to the concept of ‘external alchemy’. Alot of people are talking about external alchemy as if it is about mechanics. Of course there is science in it and it is about mechanics in that way, but the *aliveness* of things has got to be mentioned. When Michael’s computer broke down he spoke to the elementals in it to make it work again, this is how I know he understands this.
In ‘Opening the Dragon Gate’ there is a very interesting scene of external alchemy. They take enormous care with what they are making. It must not be brought near anyone whose thoughts can disturb it. This is so important! In western alchemical tradition there is a wonderful book called the ‘Mutus Liber’ which begins with the process of collecting dew. Just dew. Everything that happens after that begins with dew, from a certain place at a certain time.
Water absorbs the thoughts and feelings, we know this. Herbs are alive, they have spirit; you can hold the herb and touch, go into it or allow it into you and it will tell you about itself. This is about aliveness. You don’t need to be an expert alchemist to do this. I have experimented alot with water and oils, using solarization, that is, exposing them to the sun at various times, when the sun is different signs of the zodiac. They absorb the influence.
“The Hidden Messages in Water” by Masaru Emoto already showed how water and other substances respond to thought; I believe his work was featured in ‘what the bleep’. He would say different words or play different music to water, and freeze it to show the crystal made. The peaceful or positive thoughts made beautiful crystals, the negative ones made nothing. An experiment was done with two jars of rice. One was told: “Thankyou” every day, the other “I hate you” every day. The first one went golden and fermented beautifully, the second went black and stank. Water can have words taped to the container and will absorb the words.
You can do this with magickal sigils also, I combine these with solarization. Already here people are experimenting with magnets and I do that too. But what I’m saying all this for is that the intention, the aliveness of the substance such as a herb must be taken into account, its beingness. Even your computer has beingness. I personally will not believe there is true external alchemy going on until this is understood, because there is no intellectual equation for aliveness but there is experience of aliveness and the science and art of understanding its properties, which is being studied here.
Michael used to sell taoist flower essences; many of the people making flower essences now are onto these things of course. He also would sell taoist calligraphy and by the same principles it is certainly possible to capture the aliveness in painting too. There *is* a science for it, no question, because you have to know the ways of the life force or aliveness, but it can’t be understood without being felt. Of course everyone here knows this! It’s for this reason that I wish external alchemy to be defined as having to do with the properties of aliveness in all the things around us, rather than in theoretical symbolic descriptions of these. Like Dog I am hoping for a future where mechanisms are in harmony with the aliveness and will of the plants and the sun and moon. j
October 10, 2007 at 11:09 am #24799Swedich DragonParticipanttest
October 10, 2007 at 11:16 am #24801NnonnthParticipantOctober 10, 2007 at 12:42 pm #24803Swedich DragonParticipantOctober 10, 2007 at 12:44 pm #24805Swedich DragonParticipantHello Nnoth. I’m angry. Have been writing to you an hour but something happened with my computer and the text is gone. Shit Shit Shit!!!
So I´ll write back soon again have got the time for the moment. SORRY
October 10, 2007 at 4:29 pm #24807NnonnthParticipantOctober 12, 2007 at 3:29 am #24809Swedich DragonParticipantA new answer to you. Quite alot actually.
>>>>> It’s been so long… I was going to ask how you are, but I guess your mail is telling me not that great, hope you are well at least in other respects?
>>>>>>Hello Nnonnth. Yes my life is going in the right direction. Many things are good despite my bad conditioning. I have found two wonderfol doctors and I think I will start a treatment I have been waiting for in many years in januari. I will strenghten my adrenal glands and combine that treatment with natural thyroxin. Thats my plan. I hope it will make me stronger and not so badly cold anymore. We will see. I have a good job as a teacher and do my master tesis work. The job is fun and I like to teach. Maybe I had choosen to do other more demanding things as work if I was stronger, but for the moment its great. I also do exercises alot. Started to do qigong and yoga for 2 hours a day this summer and like it alot. Try to continue even in the winter though much more work to do. Have also started a gruop of people training tao yoga from Mantak Chias system with the book “100 days to better health good sex and long life”. The bad things are that I often is wery sleepy and cant work especially when doing my exame work. My bad cold syndrome is still a pain in the ass. Even though better than some years ago.
>>>>>1. It is a nervous system problem. Don’t read too many books on demons and don’t talk to demons, this is really you talking to your own fears and making them more real.
>>>>>>I understund my health problem as: Looking for the moment at the adrenals, adrenal fatigue=low yang in kidneys. Hypothyroidism. Low general yang=?Nervours system. And some intestinal problems.
I really not red that kind of books it was just an accidental occurence. I’m more into or was more into Jungian psychology and such stuff.
>>>>>>>2. Have a thorough physical checkup if you haven’t already, pref. from an alternative medicine doctor or TCM doctor or both. How is your diet etc.? Your kidney system will not be happy if there is all this cold. You could try a yin tonic from dragonherbs for example.
>>>>>>>>>Yes I go to an acupuncurist from china but his treatment works wery slow if at all. He tell me low general yang, nervous system, kidneys and intestines problem in that order.
I have improved my diet during my illness its not perfect but much better than before. I am thinking about what I’am eating any way. About which fats are good. Awoiding sugar. Eating slow carbohydrates. And more vegetables. Also eating according to treatment protocol of low adrenals. Or try it anyway.
I do not understand why yin tonic when having to little yang?
>>>>>3. What are you practicing right now? For practice I can honestly recommend most of all sitting still and observing neutrally. Don’t even have to do this in a straight-spine position. Just allowing yourself to calm down. From what you say you are well in touch with what the body and energy system is doing, but it is not peaceful enough to do energy-moving practices, much better to let it settle and simply watch. Here they teach the smile, etc, that’s good too, but I prefer pure neutrality for this. See what is happening and try not interfere.
When you do this, be like the dutch miniaturist painter of 16th century who goes into his studio in the morning and must first of all wait for all the dust to settle so he can paint without dust going into the work. It will take a while but you will see results.
>>>>>>>Started to exercise from the white tigress system this summer. The nine jade dragons massage for penis combined with some hearbs, have stoped it for now. And meditaion upon the original cacity=Ancestors hall behind the eyes. Do this meditation two times a day mostly.
Then I do some kidney qigong streanghtening exercises I found in Mantak Chias book cultivatin male sexual energy about 1o minutes a day.
I have also newly started to do one exercise from the system Xin zhen shuang. When you bend your body to the sides. Had some problem with this exercise and feel how it streatch the whole kidney area at a deeper level and try to see what happens if I do it more regularly.
I have also started to do Tao Yin exercises each day. Some days for about 45 minutes and other days less. Feels greate and I can do them to higher my energ level even when I’m depleted. They are also working on the psoas that is my focus for the moment.
Try to have a period of 100 days without an ejaculation during the winter.
Then I do the exercises from Yudeloves book I told you about. We do one weeks exercises in a mounth.
Follow this most days but not every day sometimes skip some exercises. Is a chess maniak on internet from time to time. (steel training time bur is fun to. )
I also did some jogging about 2 times a week this summer and did some weight lifting in the winter. Now I’m start training at for me a new place with group training qigong and karate. Have just started the karate once and liked it much. It felt greate to my energy system except I couldn’t sleep after it. To much energy going around in the body.
>>>>>4. I would use magick to work on my personality and my fears. Some here would recommend instead NLP or Core Dynamics etc. The secret is just to get self-knowledge in some way or other, so you can see fears for what they are.
>>>>>>For the moment my treatment of the adrenals and the thyroid takes much money beacase the medicin is expensive and I have choosen private doctors. So I’m don’t have so much possibilities to do go for other treatments for the moment. If this not work though I might which to see a schaman or somtething like that.
>>>>>5. Without wishing to be personal, observe your sexual habits. These directly affect kidneys and nervous system. A period of abstinence can be good, doesn’t have to be long. This is nothing to do with ‘sex=bad’, think of it like fasting. (Michael went celibate a whole year once! ^_^)
>>>>>>>I have been celibate during the last six years,mostly a effect of a terrible health, if meaning not being with a woman. I have to change that no and belive that if combining love and sex in a good way it could belp me with my problems also. Especially since I use the healing love techiques. Meeting some girls for the moment and might be in love with one of them. But is a bit afraid to make a big change in my life. But working on it. During this time of celibacy I have used some porn on the internet from time to time but today stopped it beacase I’m not feel good about it. I had to realise that I had debeloped an addiction before I could stop it. It was difficult for some time but I think I’m read of it now. It feels like it give me energy and relise me from frustration but increases the frustration and affecting my heart and soul I guess in a bad way. I’m interested in the teaching of the white tigresses also. Want to learn more in the future.
>>>>>7. In my opinion the use of the psoas muscle relates to the side channels. This however is not really relevant. Over-heat and over-cold are always in the end an overstrained nervous system in some way. I was asking about multiple sclerosis over on the ‘general’ board because a friend of mine has it. She has also problems with cold spots, obviously much more severe because etheric energy (jing) is out of control in that disorder. In my opinion observing neutrally your own energy will be very helpful for this, your own thoughts too. If you want to move energy use a moving form eg. one of the ones on this site which are great.
>>>>>>Not shore if your are completely right here. But maybe I’m not know enough. Haven’t done so much moving form mostly followed Mantak Chias general approach. But the tao yin seems to work. I’m interested to really go in to it for a while. Have noticed from the Iron Shirt practice and from the Xien shen zuang that I do sweat alot when doing the standing forms. I believe it has to do with my kidney problem and my problem to root myself. Is it good or bad. Do I loose energy or get energy when I sweat much. I also read somewhere in Mantak Chias books I guess that if sweating alot there is a nervous system problem.
When I started to get ill my nerves was on the edge but today I feel quite cool mostly just alitlebit sensitive to stress and can be nervous more easily if in sertain situations. But mostly calm anyway.
October 12, 2007 at 5:21 am #24811NnonnthParticipantCongratulations on the job, the thesis, and the perhaps being in love!
Certainly seems you are doing plenty, perhaps you don’t really need advice, you are obviously doing alot of stuff. I just want to come back to you on a key point. This is just my point of view but I mean it sincerely.
>>For the moment my treatment of the adrenals and the thyroid takes much money beacase the medicin is expensive and I have choosen private doctors. So I’m don’t have so much possibilities to do go for other treatments for the moment. If this not work though I might which to see a schaman or somtething like that.<>Have just started the karate once and liked it much. It felt greate to my energy system except I couldn’t sleep after it. To much energy going around in the body.<<
… it was helpful to get the greater evenness in the nervous system, but you could have a completely different issue of course.
Hope you'll stick around! jason
October 12, 2007 at 5:55 am #24813Swedich DragonParticipantHi again
I’m not shore about the karete and how it affect me jet. But I know the weight lifting have a tendensy to make me more tired. But I like when my body is more in shape also, even on a deeper level. I try today to have some yang exercises (the more physical western ones or karate and such) that make my energy system. Perhaps the karate is good I will notice. Yes the energy, (nervous system), seems to get an more even flow, it something like that I look for.
Perhaps I’m a little rigid about taking advices. But on the other side it’s a matter of diciplin and follow what I have decided. For the moment I’m in the diciplin with myself but from time to time I’ll come in to crises with it and then are more open to make some changes in what I do to be better. All advices are much welcome though. And some I try.
About the stillness meditation: Today I’m not completely shore about the meditaion in the original cacity. It should be good for the overal health. But I’m not shore for the moment if this is the best for me. But maybe it works in the same way as your stillness meditation with observinging the processes. I might think? To meditate on the lower tan tien also should be good for me I think.
I have a friend that have been meeting and dating a man that is studying NLP perhaps I could learn something from them.
I absolutely have to start working on the fear for love and loving relationship. I’m not completely shore what this is in my life! How is a good way to start do you think?
I understund the other part of my diagnosis quit well but I don’t understund really this with the nervous system actually. Don’t think about this part of my illness wery much. And maybe thats not good beacase it might be the must important part as you say. As I see it the adrenals is closely connected to the nervous system and maybe also the kidneys according to TCM. Or am I wrong here?
Nice to talk to you dude
S Dragon
October 12, 2007 at 7:29 am #24815NnonnthParticipant>>But maybe it works in the same way as your stillness meditation with observinging the processes. I might think? To meditate on the lower tan tien also should be good for me I think.<>I have a friend that have been meeting and dating a man that is studying NLP perhaps I could learn something from them.<>I absolutely have to start working on the fear for love and loving relationship. I’m not completely shore what this is in my life! How is a good way to start do you think?<>As I see it the adrenals is closely connected to the nervous system and maybe also the kidneys according to TCM. Or am I wrong here?<>Nice to talk to you dude<<
Outrageously good to talk to you, I missed ya! Hope you will stick around. j
October 12, 2007 at 9:22 am #24817Swedich DragonParticipantYes you are right I should start with the girl I like. I know that to.
Someting more I wonder about is that it seems that I have wery strong sexual energy. Even had it before this taoist teaching. Often the sexual energy is weak when you have problem with the adranals, but not in my case obviously. But I have noticed one thing during my interest in the white tigress teaching according to Hsi Lai. My sperm is rather watery and not as thick it should be if you are in good health. So maybe my sexual energy isn’t as good as I belive. This is the reason why I have tried the methods by Hsi Lai really. I also have a suspicion about that my previous girlfriend could be a part of my problem. She did know a bit of the methods by Mantak Chia and I believe she did suck som of my energy out. During the two or maybe three years relationship I became ill. I didn’t have any practicall experience by energy at that time, just an theoretical interest. She didn’t want me to borrow her books by Mantak Chia beacase she thought they could give me power over her. Hope you have the possibility to comment especially on this part Nnonnth
or someone else also.Had an experience with sexual energy lately. I was sleeping and much energy did move like snow or something whiteich from my penis up to the crown not in the back but up in a arc in front of me and it up into the crown. It was just an experience. Are curious if somebody else have had some similar experience and wonder also about the meaning of the white color.
I also had a big beatiful dream about my ancestors during the first week of the meditaion on ancestors hall=original cavity. Didn’t know by then that the name of it was ancestors hall but found it in a book and then later got it descibe for me by one of my tao teachers.
>>>>Outrageously good to talk to you, I missed ya! Hope you will stick around. j
Thanks alot. Like that word >>>Outrageously
October 12, 2007 at 9:35 am #24819NnonnthParticipant>>I also have a suspicion about that my previous girlfriend could be a part of my problem. She did know a bit of the methods by Mantak Chia and I believe she did suck som of my energy out. During the two or maybe three years relationship I became ill. I didn’t have any practicall experience by energy at that time, just an theoretical interest. She didn’t want me to borrow her books by Mantak Chia beacase she thought they could give me power over her. Hope you have the possibility to comment especially on this part Nnonnth
or someone else also.<<Man it doesn't sound like a good relationship I can certainly say that! I don't know what anyone else is saying but there needs to be alot of trust to exchange energy positively on that level, and it sounds like there was not alot of trust here. That could indeed leave your sexual energy quite leary of trusting someone in the future. It is very difficult if there is this war going on to get anywhere.
On 'strong sexual energy' I think it is a case in many ways not of how strong it is in itself only but of how the body and the personality and the emotions are used to using it and connecting with it, which makes the flow it has for you normally.
On that 'sex energy up to crown' experience that is interesting. I would like to ask did the energy go into the head or did it remain on top of the crown?
j
October 12, 2007 at 11:17 am #24821Swedich DragonParticipantHello
Ure helping me really this time, alot. THX. To see my self more clearly. Yes I know it was a bad relationship in many ways, but u help me see it also effect how I relate to girls now. good. A piece that make me more wise I hope.I’m not shore about your exact distinction betwean on top of crown or into head. It felt like the energy went into the head but I can’t really say if it went into the head on a deep level or not. It felt like it went in an inch or so not shore if it penetrated deeper. Why?
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