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Not always true. Some may eat more but not a heck of a lot more. I eat more. I do a lot more too. My day is 20 hours. 4 to 5 hours of sleep.
I am rarely a couch potatoe. Have 3 jobs.
So why I am overweight. I have had months off, no change. Work hard, no change. It is aout equilibrium. Hard to change to lower that balanceThanks for backing up my assertion with honesty. At least you have the courage to face reality. Probably because you are a man. LOL!!!
This is my current routine:
WAKE UP
Hindu push-ups, squats/ab wheel, pull-ups (alternate days all done “sprint style”)NO BREAKFAST BUT HERBS! (He Shou Wu, Huang Jing, Rou Chong Rong, Gou Ji Tzu)
maybe I have a tofu muffin or some small shit to shut my stomach up.
LUNCH
Beef Teriyaki or sushi or baby shrimp and scrambled eggs–one bottle of beerDINNER
If I am hungry I eat a little something. Usually Chinese food (can’t get fat from that)Wine or Beer
Okay, you probably notice that I drink alchohol every day. The beer was giving me a gut so I took up the ab wheel and it is going down even though I keep drinking.
If I ate a big breakfast and dinner plus snacks I would put on 15 pounds in no time. Girls criticize me because they think I should put on those 15 pounds, but my life doesn’t revolve around pleasing girls any more.
…and stop competing with men so they can love you the way you would like to be loved, regardless of your weight. You need to be validated as a woman and not as a man.
Don’t be too hard on others Plato, look into your own heart before judging the problems of others, they have their struggles too and use ‘food’ to compensate that. Knocking on their heads will not make any chance. They only will feel more bad about themselves. Of course they put the food into their mouths but ask ‘WHY’. Why do these people torture themselves like this, knowing and feeling they shouldn’t.
What kind of deep pain is causing these people to drag their body and self esteem to this level of rejection? Because rejection is what they experience, within and without thanks to the reaction of others.Give them your help and nice heart instead.
Wendy,
I am hard on others because I want others to be hard on me. This is what we all need because we are all too weak these days.
What could we accomplish if only we were stronger?
As one of my friends is fond of saying, “if you are depressed it is because your life sucks. Get off the meds, get a life and you won’t be depressed.”
Let me ask you, if you find the “deep pain” that makes someone eat too much what will you do with it?
“Release” it?
Okay, fine…
…but then we have to ask ourselves: “what is ‘release’?”
“Release” begins the moment you realize that what you are holding onto is fundamentally devoid of meaning–empty.
When a human cries her eyes out, what is released is the chemical experience of pain.
The human then has nothing left to hold onto, so forgets the trauma.
In theory. Actually it only tends to work like that in the animal kingdom.
So realizing emptiness is only the beginning…
Once one realizes one’s attachments are empty, one has to practice to starve them out–starting with the level of habit energy. Then you have “release” in a practical form.
There is no other way. If anyone disagrees I ask them to present another way before they accuse me of ramming “my way” down their throat.
Please present a viable model based on experience.
You won’t be able to do it.
P.S. No comments about dissolving the trauma in the deep center with the help of the planetary core please. Let’s stay in reality. If you present a model, you should be able to tell me how to practice it in a few paragraphs.
RB,
Many men on this site “get you.” Myself included. 🙂 We just aren’t used to validating each other let alone a woman in “that” sort of way.
That’s because we are competing with each other…
…FOR YOU!!!
Plato, I totally agree with the fact that ‘one’s attachments are empty’.
But as well, you can be direct yet heartfull at the same time which makes your words a thousandtime more worthy.
The fact you ‘explain’ your feelings about the fat problem more in detail makes it much more ‘eatable’ for a person to understand and to apply.
Just being hard creates resistance. But if you feel that is how you want to do it, fine. Yet I know that your potential is much higher and much brighter.The energy of what you offer now is totally different and I believe everybody on this board can agree with it.
As well life learns that detaching is not an obvious path nevertheless the only path that truelly brings salvation.
Meanwhile I try to help others to give them an understanding.
As you know very well we can only let go, if we feel and understand the pain. How can you let go if you have no awareness about it?So you ask my strategy on releasing:
I take people into nature, isolate them from their home, create a very nice and loving space, cleans their intestines, massage their body and belly every day, move slow and breath, meditate, listen to their pain and take it to another level of understanding, prepare the best food you can find, let them chew o so slowly, so it becomes a meditation. They eat 4 times a day, they loose several kilos just doing this. And the whole time I am 24 hours available, I listen, I am not ‘doing’ much beside the massage and the exercises but the space and the energy is so nice that people feel comfortable enough to sink deeper, instead of ‘being strong for the next attack’ they feel they can let go and the next step is the understanding that there is nothing to hold on to really.You take the hard way, I take the soft way, both are fine and will be helpfull to the one or the other depending on their needs and patterns.
As long as you speak from the heart both paths are appliable.Is true, rejection is a BIG part of it, also nonappreciation and respect. Not counting, no purpose. Everyone has their burdens, some turn to food, others to drugs, alcohol.
For me a lot of the above is true, along with life serving me a taiji master who argued and rejected who and what I was, demanded silence, demanded servitude no matter what carrots he put in front of me and then pulled away at the last minute. Treated like a jackass. Big hurdle that one is – to overcome, to let go of. So a warning to other teachers who have power.. be careful in what you do and how you do it with your students. There is always a cause and effect.Now this rejection is mine to heal with the others. It is a big one but it will come, eventually it will come. I have thought of acting out thinness to “just show him”. To be great at taiji to “just show him”. But I am not allowed that emotion. Wouldn’t work. For to create truth in physical health along with mind, emotion and spirit health one must work from a good base. Being anything for anybody but yourself is not truth, it will eventually falter and fail. I have torn down my “building” many times but one day it will be built and it will last strong and be pure of heart and intent not because of rejection nor ego. YOu see becoming healthy and truth in body — it must be found from its source. Otherwise as Wendy has said and as I experienced when I inadvertently lost 50 lbs while doing a 40 day cleanse … you just feel empty. There is no sbustance to your structure, no purpose. The trick to success is finding the truth in your purpose. Some never find it. Elusive it is. Sometimes one can find a good substitute for awhile anyways. Sometimes not.
A lot of women are overweight because they were abused as children. So to cover up, to be safe … the weight acts as a shield. I mean really, how many guys whistle at a fat ass? Do men really know what it is like for a 14 year old riding a bike to have grown men yell at her that they would love to be a bicycle seat. Do you know what it feels like to have men come up on a roof to look at you while you are working and stare at you. Do you know what it is like to see how when you are pretty and thin, men acknowledge you, talk to you, buy htings for you. How when you are fat not so much of any of that. So why would a woman who has been abused by males for a good part of her life want to look good for them especailly after having experienced life as thin/pretty and life as chubby/fat and the shallowness of men’s reactions to both. Why would any sane women want to please that species? I have taught my sons to respect all women for who they are. My relationship now, I have tested with weight gain and weight loss.
My goal is to reach a fitness level where I can again practise my martial arts, not because of some man. Not because I want to perform, not because of power, or anything of the sort. But becasue I like to be physical, I like the martial arts “try as hard as you can”, push yourself attitude. I love the structure. I love the beauty it can sometimes bring out and the skill. So much of all of that. My goal, my dream is to dance with the sword, to make it as a leaf in the wind. This is my dream but you know I cannot understand why so many men think the only place for a woman is in the kitchen, or in the store or bed. And that if she is in marital arts she wants to be a man. So friggin not true. I love my femaleness, I am just sick and tired of men judging me for who I am not. My idea of a great night is sweating in the studio or gym. That is what I like. But frigging men attache so much shit to women and it sticks like friggin glue. As soon as I can get the damn stuff off, I will feel a lot better! My sensei in Kenjutsu gave me a white silk uniform for my sword work and a blue one for my taiji. And one day, even if it takes me till I am 90 years old I will wear those uniforms and I will dance with the sword like a leaf in the wind, I will join the universe, earth and myself in taiji form. Moving the energy between us all in unison, in spiral, in contrast like a dream. And I will do this where no one but the creator and I can see. For it is my dream. And why guys cannot understand that some women’s dreams can be of that nature instead of the latest soap opera or lates knitted scarf or lastest WalMart sale I will never, never understand.
Another note, I just experienced another “traditional taiji school”. I paid the $80 for one month’s lessons. Of course I had to have a uniform, that cost $100, oh and wait, wait a minute, I needed lighter pants – so that would be another $40. I knew well what they were doing… I am a white older woman in a totally Chinese club (one white instructor, white young male is all the white they had). I was patient. Learning a different form and style, one has to be. And I thought, okay the club needs money, you have a business … I will pay. See what happens. Well demonstration time comes, the focus changes, one can see the interest in taking the club to the demos to give the public a good show .. important for the club for it to grow. Almost too much so. But that is business isn’t it. Not sure where the traditional club went though. Sounds more like a struggling business to me. ANyways, I thought i would wait and see what happens, if the universe wanted me there or not. Funny thing, the start of a new month, no $$ for the new style taiji lessons. Guess I spent it all on the outfits.
What happened to the instructor who was interested in the health of his students, the well being, the fun. The fun was all a facade. His laughter was forced. Used qi to make his students feel good and follow his lead. Seen it before. Too old for that stuff. Thing is sometimes I wish I couldn’t see it. Sometimes I wish I couldn’t feel what he was doing. Sometimes innocence is better. Sometimes it is.
Heavy sigh!
OH well.
I just wanted to make a point here that life is NOT simple. That overweight is NOT simple.And also to point out …. there are no traditional schools. Not here in North America. Big bucks and power is the name of the game. Fame and fortune is the name of the game. And then of course if one ever practices and becomes really good it will be a man who tells you “why are you trying to compete with men”. Frigg!
HOnestly, I find it hard to have a regular diet. For months I will eat one way and then for months I will eat another.
I will give you the low down.I have tried a high protein diet. To tell you the truth after about 3 days I want to puke it all up. However my iron levels get a little low and I need a little meat. For a couple months it would’ve been maybe a small piece of chicken in the a.m., salad at noon, maybe with some salmon or tuna or chicken. Then for supper some more meat. I will do this for awhile, maybe lose 10 lbs and then I will get a carb craving and go buy a half dozen donuts.
I have tried just eating a little of everything but that is almost impossible just because once I get a whiff of carbs everything goes out the window.
My best way of eating should be:
1-2 TBSP of coconut oil per day (to control yeast that I have in body due to imbalance from fasting on lemon cleanse for 40 days)
1 multivitamin
1-2 vitamin C
2 odourless garlic pills
1 Glucosomine and ChrondotinNo early breakfast, however maybe about 10 a.m. a small piece of chicken.
Lunch – a huge salad of greens and a few veggies with a little salad dressing.
Supper – 1/4 cup of brown rice/veggies (not too many carrots, no corn (can’t eat it – doctors say my system doesn’t like it too much), not too many peas either.
Evening snack 1 piece of fruitLots of water
1 small coffee during day probably in a.m.Things I cannot have because of allergies
eggs – stomach feels like hot coals are in it
peanuts – circulation is not good, legs swell, feel yecchy
milk and cheese – hold weight, puffiness
no aspartame and really sucrolose is not much better for me but I sometimes cheat and have sucrolose diet pops
no breads, no wheat breads for sure
no gluten
no wine, I have reflux from a bacteria (I grew up, up north lots of flies and bacteria from flies on food ruined my esophagus a bit so I have to be careful)
no liquor – with the qigong it wings me out too much. Usually takes me 3 days to balance back. Definately not worth it.
NO SUGAR!!So you see I know what I should be doing, just that I can’t seem to get my poop together to do it. Working on that though. THis time I truly do not want to fail. Definately getting sick of it.
Oh – I was doing 40 minutes of pilates 6 days a week for over a month, went hiking in the mountains for a few days and went to a 2 hour taiji class twice per week and hit the gym about 3 itmes in a week. Do 30 minutes of cross trainer and about 35 minutes of weights and stretching, abs, etc. Then well, the taiji went down the tubes because I let them milk me for $$ for uniforms and now couldn’t afford to pay for the next month. Great strategy. Holiday is over, work is heavy, physical fitness is down agian quite a bit. Taught qigong class at my house for 1.5 hours last night. Mostly neigong.
What I should be doing is 30 minutes neigong per day along iwth 30 minutes of taiji. Hit the gym 3 times per week. Pilates 2 times per week. Lots of walking. And well, I want to do some amazing htings with my sword some day so I would like to up my training a bit. HOpefully time will allow for that soon.
Right now I eat too much. I truly do. AFter I lost the 50 lbs I totally sabotaged myself. I ate lots, more than lots to gain the weight back. Why? Punishment. Not good enough. This is truth of expereince. Do you know what my taiji master said to me as we argued the last night I was there, the taiji master who taught me my sword, the taiji master for whom I taught his classes for, at the university and the community for 5 years. He tried to make me disciple, energy transmission but i didn’t know, I was too busy trying to send energy to heal my friend who had cancer when we were doing qiogng form. I could feel his energy come at me. I guess I knotted it all up above my pink compassion cloud. Boy was he pissed. Know what my total idol said to me after my friend and her husband left the studio. He said I wasn’t supposed to say those things. What things. Wouldn’t tell me. Then he said to me(after repeasted banterings of what things?) he said that my taiji wasn’t the worse he had ever seen but it was close. For frigg sake I taught the person who teaches the Hunyuan system for him now the qigong and form. For frigg sake I taught for him outside the school. I was taught the whole Hunyuan broadsword form in 3 hours, when he asked me to show the class they thought I had done it for years. This master pretty much crushed me. I cried and told him I only wanted to every learn taiji. I could tell you stories that would make your hair curl. And you know if you look on his site you won’t see me there, no name, no nothing yet for 6 years I was in his school. I had enough though when he dealt me that last blow. I was innocent in helping my friend and he wanted me to say nothing, nothing, nothing. Who did he htink I was a man? Geeezzz! So you see this is one of the reasons, rejection … incompletion … failure. YOu think weighgain is simple, think weight loss is simple. Is not. Stress in itself willkeep you fat.
I can not eat. I did it for 40 days and worked 5 days a week at my regular job. I had only distilled water, fresh lemon juice from freshly squeezed lemons, maple syrup. That is it. Nothing else. I did it at Easter. I did it because the universe said I needed to detoxify. I had black stuff come out from my insides, a black discharge. So yes, it did work for that. But once it was over, hell I gained the weight back because I had not dealt with any of the underlying issues of my weight.
Before I did notknow I should not eat cheese or peanuts or breads or pastas. So no matter how hard I trained I just could not lose the weight. Now my system is unbalanced because of the acidity I put my body thru duringmy fast and the yeast the has taken up residence. Difficult. And I should not eat too much protein either. Is hard on kidneys.
I have great stamina and have been informed I do not need much food. Very little actually. Just nutrients and a little bit of protein for organ health . I do not like too much meat but I need iron, eggs are out, cheese is out. Nuts are out. So go figure.
Well that is about it.
I find this to be a good universe joke. Along iwth the taiji thing. Master who taught me most fuc_s me up hte most. My choice of course. Hard when one is sensitive, emotional and woman to let go of that experience, espeically when that expeirence holds your passion – taiji/qigong/sword. Hard.
I agree with the both of you. Strenght is important but openness also. Awesome posts.
I have a reservation though. What happens when one re-enters their original life, back home, work, kids, etc. I imagine the higher understanding carries with you or is supposed to. However I do understand, have understood where pain comes from. Letting go is totally another matter. Understanding to me is only part of it. Maybe I do not understand deep enough.
See it, feel it, recognize it, htink you release it, but wait, it grows again. There must be a continual renewal process or the roots have to be pulled out. Roots can be eons deep.
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My guess is that you have weak blood. I reccommend you get finely ground He Shou Wu and drink as much of it as you can every day. Start at 5 grams and work up to 15-20 grams then stop and assess if any drying out occurs. This will fix your blood, and it costs $8 pound ground up fine and will stop your appetite.
You also most likely have a type of fungus in your blood that makes you crave the carbs. Only when I regularly electrified my blood did I have ZERO taste for sweets because all the parasites were dead. One glass of beer (yeast injection) and the sugar cravings came back. Sugar is the hardest addiction to kick. Pure torture. Can only do it via blood-electrification in my experience. Cheap blood electrification unit can be bought for less then $100 on ebay.com I would guess.
Your body is weak and can’t process food IMO. In addition to He Shou Wu I would eat Huang Jing along with the He Shou Wu. There is a story that a woman in China went into a cave and ate nothing but those two herbs grown in the mountains and it has been said that after two years she could fly.
Take it as metaphor, but these two herbs are dirt cheap and one can live on them easily. I mean, one can ONLY eat those two and be big and strong. Hard to believe but it is true. Not very fun to eat but you can grind them up and drink them in juice or water. Add a little celtic salt to the mix and let it suck into your kidneys directly.
If you crave sweets, eat Gou Ji Tzu (wolfberries) like candy. Make these 3 herbs the staple of your diet. Very cheap.
Build your diet on top of these but don’t pay too much attention to what you eat or get crazy. Use common sense: don’t eat what you are allergic too, and don’t eat things you want to throw up later.
The next thing is that what you call “working out” just isn’t! No offense, but it is just movement. Pilates, no matter how greuling, isn’t a workout either. Yes, I have done it and I know how hard it is. 🙂
In this case what Matt Furey says is right on. If you do Hindu wrestling exercises like Hindu Push-ups and Hindu Squats and you do them like you were a sprinter you can transform the body. Short, all-out bursts of activity change the body.
Good to admit that you eat lots, btw–and I am not saying that to be right or go “I told you so.” I am saying it because it is most important not to deceive yourself about what you are doing because then you can’t change anything.
Stick with eating what the superheros of legend did:
He Shou Wu
Huang Jing
WolfberriesStick with workig out like the superheros of legend did:
Only work out 15 minutes a day. Nothing more, but throw your life into those 15 minutes. Do Hindu Squats and Hindu Push-ups. You don’t need to buy a course. They are on the internet for free. Do them like you were running a hill sprint. Finish up with bridging. Trust me, you don’t know what working out is until you want to vomit. It doesn’t take hours. It takes 15 minutes of 100% to get there. The rest of the day you can sit in the bath tub for all anyone cares. 🙂
Finally, about your “master:” All old-school teachers tell their students they suck. That’s how they motivate you. By crushing you.
Just let it go.
Easier said then done.
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