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April 28, 2008 at 7:03 pm #28254DogParticipant
Skynews AU did a story on some inventers that say they made a devise that can power your whole house using no fuel just magnets. They say you can have one at home for about 5,000. Judge for your self.
April 29, 2008 at 12:32 pm #28255skateParticipantthanks Dog
Here is another website on the subject.
If you’re into Maxwell’s electromagnetic equations it will be especially interesting.
Given what I’ve learned from Taoism the so called “zero point energy” is no suprise.
regards
Bob
April 29, 2008 at 4:19 pm #28257skateParticipantDamon
Maxwell’s equations were “edited” from their original multi-dimensional form to fit with the views of orthodoxy. Any electrical engineering or physics professor who stands up for this risks loosing research funding. its no suprise that further research has been stymied.
I haven’t tried the technology myself. There have been a number of patents granted by the US Gov, so there may be something to it.
If it becomes available even in prototype form I’m certainly going to buy it.
At first I had a hard time acccepting this as it went against the prejudices I learned from my engineering professors. I’ve been in the business long enough to have noticed that everything in the universe doesn’t always fit inside our nice, comfortable, mathematics and theories. All it takes is another set of “discoveries” to blow away our world view.
There was a time that western Dr’s bled people with leeches to cure disease. It took a courageous man like Louis Pasteur (and people like him) and his discoveries to blow away the old model. I can recall reading about an Austrian Physician in the 1800’s who insisted that the Dr’s and nurses who worked for him in the hospital had to wash their hands in between the deliveries of babies. This was proven to cut down on infant mortality. Nevertheless he was ostracised from the profession. A generation later Pastuer’s work proved him right.
From a Taoist perspective it makes sense. Chi is always available from the universe, and chi is just one form of energy.
regards
Bob
May 2, 2008 at 9:34 am #28259JernejParticipantmost things are diabolic.
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like leeches. at one time was very emotional toward modern md taking blood and compared it to bleeding of blood in middle ages.
but take cupping sets. they are energy leeches. leeches are ching leeches.
if one can make a spell by spilling blood, the practise has effect. leeching sick substance out of sick people would be a possible possitive application.
or pasteur. he also proposed that things cannot migrate through walls. his was a brick that formed mindset that later was used to jail reich inscentive. reich did propose that life forms are not bound by walls for manifestation, they organize their matter via orgon.
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it is not necessary that science is entirely stupid. it is just that one does not see any patent that was appropriated for security reasons. author of such patent is then also bound not to discuss it. it is common patent process element.
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it is also common that the hoax callers are innitiates. like franklin announcing a statement that was commonly interpreted as a hoax condemnation of mesmer, yet franklin himself was a freemason and there is a rumor of his wife having large interest in spiritual interests (as was presented by sherman). but then if mesmer were no condemned by then society he would remain in france for the dawn of revolution which as a member of higher society would not be a life nurturing. so he died much later in swiss.
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tesla was a few man band. not a large band. that was so important that he was let to die in on social welfare. previously he was dined at central park hotel.
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washing hands is also a common traditional medicine man practice.May 6, 2008 at 11:24 pm #28261StevenModeratorThis kind of thing always leaves me really suspicious.
In general, you can’t get more energy out of something
than what you put in, or you’d have a perpetual motion
machine–ultimately breaking the laws of thermodynamics.Since this machine claims to do just that–by producing
an over-unity result, the machine would have to violate
the laws of thermodynamics to do what it claims.I suspect that the machine is just a DC-to-AC converter, and
the total amount of amps of AC that you can get from the machine
is necessarily less than whatever amount of DC power you put into
the thing. I mean what keeps the induction flywheel running after
the initial DC jolt? Aside from friction losses, the flywheel is
converting its rotational momentum into AC through electromagnetic
induction–the flywheel should eventually slow to a halt unless
continuously supplied by energy (from a DC source?)Of course, the nature of science is that every law has
the possibility of being broken/rewritten through
new experimental evidence–however, creating a machine
that would ultimately disprove the Second Law of Thermodynamics
is a pretty tall order. It’s much more likely that
the machine doesn’t do what it claims to do!What of internal alchemy?
Doesn’t that also break the laws of physics?
What’s the difference, and is there one?I would argue that the situation here is completely
different.The reason is that we are tapping into another force–
that force being the force of consciousness.Consciousness is a force that we seem to have an unlimited
supply of, and it really can’t be quantified. However, it
is this force that provides the necessary “electromotive energy”
to draw chi from an apparently unlimited reservoir.The reason that the laws of physics are not being broken here is
that the force of consciousness appears nowhere in the models
of physics, so therefore it’s action and interaction can not
be accounted for.In fact, I suspect that consciousness is the missing force and
missing piece of the puzzle necessary to unify all of the laws of
physics into one coherent framework, but I digress . . .S
May 20, 2008 at 11:04 am #28263c_howdyParticipantConcerning Tom Bearden
I must say that I have been thinking few years to buy Tom Bearden’s “Energy from the Vacuum” although I’m not educated in these things, so that I could hardly do anything with it.
There is anyway another link. If it doesn’t work one can find it using search:
the non sequitur mathematics and physics of the “new electrodynamics” proposed by the aias group
MK
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