Would Anyone Like to Discuss Positive Practice Experiences?

I have found these “Alchemy Practices” to be very practical and useful; I have learned various forms of them from various teachers within this network and from other teachers outside M Chia & M. Winn.

I have been meditating since 1982 and utilize them daily; My health was a concern and begain these practices as a last ditch effort. I use a spontanous approach I don’t set goals with it or anything of that nature. Sometimes its deep smiling awareness then sometimes its Greatest Kan & Li. I practice within a group also and we all take turns
leading the group with I like so each practice is different, since each one of us is differet.

I have seen great healing stories from alchemy & Qigong practices, I always go into it to expect nothing which usually delivers a “Whoa” expierence.

I Have never had a weird or bad expierence in any of this since i always learned step by step and practiced with a “only what i can digest attitude”. In the beginning it was hard since i was so young, and it was the 80’s no networking or resources but now there is so many great resources to learn from. I can remember when there was nothing but workshops and that was it..

I recently connected with a Native American and they utilize similar practices in their inipi’s, and ceremony’s which is exciting to me because it makes it more understanding and the universality of all this.

I enjoy alchemy and would never trade it in for anything else…grateful i found it when i did… snowlion

It is difficult to discuss ‘positive’ practice experiences. I had many ‘experiences’, but what is the use of starting to talk about it because they are MY experiences born from my personality, my needs, my hunger, my pain, my ‘mission’ on this planet and my flaws and things I need to learn. All these practices are tools to come to that and are very individually. Even ‘negative’ experiences turn out to be ‘good’ once!

The practice is a tool, you are the driver, and you choose consciously and most of all unconsciously how you apply those tools and what they will do in your system and sometimes soooo beyond your understanding that it takes time and more practice to look back and grasp the reason.
Even pointing at a ‘bad’ teacher or a ‘bad’ practice is somehow your own choice to learn something somehow.

I recently, (while I am very good in ‘screening’ people), walked right into a most bizarre situation. A woman I considered as ‘nearly’ my best friend stabbed me right in the back, in a moment I absolutely did not see any of it coming, not with one dagger but with both hands she drove her daggers in my back. I can tell you I was pretty shocked and angry because somebody misused my trust so badly.

Well, after looking and turning and tossing this event, I can see this as a pay back for what I did to my partner. I once misused his trust and knowing that ‘friendship’ is a ‘karmic’ issue in my life it was the perfect pay back.

Should I blame that woman for what she did? On the horizontal dimension she really did a bad thing, but I see as well she is just a messenger to balance my things out. I pay my debt. She will pay hers somehow somewhere… and so we help each other, nothing or nobody to blame really. It all depends how you look at things… so is this a good or a bad experience?

Intelligence,
I don’t think wendy’s response was aout flaky dreams.

But it sounds like your response wants to disucss the “scientific” levels of experience, you mention dmt, pinoline, etc. the chemicals mentioned in Chia’s Dark Room booklet (allegedly based on another european writer on this topic). Maybe Leary ws also into those chemicals.

I personally have not found the chemical approach to be that useful. Yes, they are all there, all are charged by changes in the energy body. But focus on the energy body shifts is more primary and productive for the practitioner.

And I welcome your enquiry, I would like to see more exchange on this topic of long term kan and li shifts that have occured, not necessarily as “positive” experiences, but just refinements that might have positive meaning for others.

The sleepiness you experience I believe is probably your polarized ego mind being dissolved by increased presence of yuan chi, generated by the cauldron. Use of a pearl in that cauldron space will give your mind a focal point from which to relate to the formless yuan chi.

michael

I am directing this to “Intelligence”.

I have found your insistent questioning and responses to people’s sacred experiences to be downright insulting. Your obsessive focus on the dominance of the lower, fear-based, thinking mind to prove everything in what you believe (but is not necessarily so) to be “scientific” terms and your refusal to respond to any of my many previous statements about the importance of feeling and intuition, which cannot be and is not contested by any serious alchemical or chi gung practitioner, border on deliberate malice.

How “intelligent” is it to make up heady questions about this or that when the soul of things is in the heart, first and foremost? It’s all based on trusting your experience, not on figuring it out with your head so you can coddle your frightened ego by placating your tyrant mind. You may succeed in fooling Michael for a bit with your esoteric and scientific probings of mentally interesting subjects, but you will eventually find that all that is a dead end. You cannot get what you want by staying in your mind and this is where all your refused pain is coming from. If you would pay half as much attention to that as you do to biochemistry you’d have all the answers you seek in the form of knowing and peace. You asked me once what I meant by people deluding themselves. THIS is what I meant.

The universe’s adjuration, “Come to your senses!” is screaming at you, man.

What the heck are you thinking when you call our sincere answers based on many years of experience “flim-flam”? When are you going to look at the fact that you ask all these questions because you are stuck in your head and are dying to get back into your heart and your feelings where all these answers live?

We know we have results from our years of practice because we FEEL those results and we TRUST what we are feeling. You, however, have practiced for years but insist on doubting what you know! How “intelligent” is that? You are eliminating the very tool which can answer you by ignoring your body in favor of your mind. The true mind is in the heart and the heart is in the body. And, by the way, the heart controls the brain.

What are you feeling now?

I have asked you more than once since you began writing questions: “When you get that answer, what will it really give you?”

I suggest you consider answering that question seriously now for it is the only question worth asking at this point.

What will you get when you know if…?

Sincerely, Alexander

i think it’s nice/helpful to use science. For example, my sisters’ 28 week premature daughter is being monitored and sustained by sophistocated monitoring at an advanced hospital for which we are very thankful.
But it’s eaqually important not be USED by science. ie, don’t always rely on it for validation of an hypothesis.
The authority of experience will be proof enough to you. And the inquiry of your sincere heart will help authenticate it.