September 22, 2016 at 6:54 am #47321
Well, I haven’t really tried it too many times, and the reason is that simply it doesn’t flow. I tried the reverse. Felt worse. I have some ideas, let me know if some of them are good or if there is anything else to do:
1. Roll the ball closer to the surface (will this have the needed effect so I can proceed to Fusion)
2. Try Mantak Chia’s method
3. Simply try harder e.g. put more time into it: more time in creating the ball, first do the movement form and immediately after do the wudang.
4. Focus on other more flowing things first like Fundamentals 3
By the way, my motivation for doing the orbit is simply so I can proceed to Fusion.
Thank you for your opinion and advice in advance!September 23, 2016 at 12:00 pm #47322
Fusion might help you with the wudang orbitSeptember 23, 2016 at 12:50 pm #47324
Are we talking about Fusion I?September 23, 2016 at 1:29 pm #47326
… you will know it, when is the right moment. If you do the inner smile and healing sounds in creative cycle then you already do some kind of fusion. Trying harder is not a good idea in my opinion, more you try less you get, let it happen, be softer.
Do you do some moving practice, like Wu Ji gong … it may help you with your sitting practices a lot.September 24, 2016 at 5:19 am #47328
I’ve been a lot with the sounds and now lately with embracing the tree. I have been doing meditations similar to the inner smile before qi gong, and I have been doing them a lot, so I’m somewhere there. But haven’t done the orbit yet. And I’m kind of starting Tai Chi 1, and about to learn Earth – Sky breathing.
Sourcexc are you an instructor? I know you are the nearest person on the forum, I am also in the Balkans. I would love an instructor here or nearby, I am especially interested in Iron Shirt I and Tai Chi I.September 24, 2016 at 6:26 am #47330
This is one of the reasons why movement practice, getting really grounded, getting really embodied is so important. If you are not in your body, it will make the meditations difficult, because you will be trying to control everything in your mind, rather than letting it happen naturally in your body. It needs to be felt by the body, not forced with the mind.
So I recommend the QF2 orbit form of Michael’s (QF2 DVD), along with the IS1 and Tai Chi 1 that you are independently exploring. These will help you get more body-conscious, so the meditations will be more accessible.
In the meantime, you can try the classical point method of the microcosmic orbit by Master Chia. It could help you break your stuck pattern of not being able to get the Wudang orbit to work. You can always return back to the Wudang orbit after you’ve played with an alternate approach first. To be honest, I usually teach the classical orbit first before I teach the Wudang orbit when I teach the meditation line.
You should be able to get the orbit to work before beginning Fusion 1. It doesn’t mean you need to have it perfected before beginning Fusion 1, but you should be able to at least get it to work. In my opinion.
SOctober 9, 2016 at 12:42 pm #47332
Yes, I have certificate as AI and I can teach basic stuff.
You are from Balkans? There nearby, you have some instructors in Bolgaria and Greek T think.October 10, 2016 at 8:43 am #47334
Well I have contacted all the Bulgarian instructors and didn’t get a reply. I didn’t try the Greek yet. If you are interested in teaching Iron Shirt (actually whatever course that has embracing the tree) or Tai Chi I let me know (email@example.com)October 14, 2016 at 2:52 pm #47336
Actually I dont practice Iron shirt as thought in HT, I do Kunlun five elements Zhang Zhuang instead.October 20, 2016 at 12:38 am #47338
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