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Year 1421: The Chinese Discovered America (before Columbus)

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  • June 9, 2007 at 7:36 am #22563
    Michael Winn
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    1421 – THE YEAR CHINA DISCOVERED THE WORLD

    http://www.1421.tv/

    http://www.1421.tv/pages/content/index.asp?PageID=38

    What caused the author to write ‘1421 – The Year China Discovered The
    World’?

    The author had spent years researching and writing his original book ‘1421’,
    based on the events taking place all over the world in this defining year.
    However, his discoveries about China came by accident. When completing
    ‘1421’ he came across the Zuane Pizzigano chart for the first time. The
    chart, drawn up by a Venetian cartographer in 1424, showed, to his
    disbelief, several of the Caribbean islands, as well as parts of the Florida
    coastline, some 70 years before Christopher Columbus arrived there.

    Why has such an engrossing concept only come into the limelight so recently?

    Despite the subject matter of the book appearing so innovative, there has
    been talk of pre-European world exploration for many years. It is only now
    however, that anyone has made an attempt to filter this wealth of
    information down into such a cogent and accessible package. The author has
    spent years travelling the world in search of evidence that had often been
    kept away from the general public. Therefore with the publication of this
    book, he has unearthed and made readily available a huge quantity of
    evidence that was previously confined to the dusty vaults and archives of
    the past.

    Why was 1421 such an important year all over the world?

    1421 was a decisive year in world history. In Europe, as the 100 years war
    raged on, King Henry V took the bold step of marrying the French heiress
    Catherine of Valois, in an attempt to reconcile the countries’ differences.
    Simultaneously, Venice, the oldest and most powerful naval power in Europe
    was in a state of disarray. The old Doge was ill, his powers waning, and his
    successor waiting in the wings, determined that Venice should abandon its
    maritime tradition and concentrate on becoming a land power. Egypt had been
    plunged into a state of civil war and social unrest — there were no fewer
    than five sultans in 1421 alone. The Islamic world was also disintegrating,
    what with the Portuguese invasion of the North African heartlands. In
    December 1421 the overland route to China and the Spice Islands — the great
    Silk Road running from China right across Central Asia to the Middle East —
    had been blocked when the Ottomans surrounded Byzantium. In that same
    climactic month, the Mamluk Sultan Barsbey seized power in Egypt and
    nationalised the spice route. The effect of the two events was to ruin the
    merchants who had controlled the spice trade, seal Egypt’s borders to
    international trade and sever the sea route through the Bosphorus to the
    western end of the Silk Road.

    How has China reacted to the book?

    The key speech made by the author to 36 different countries, with a
    population of some two billion people, via television at the Royal
    Geographical Society in March 2002, provoked a great deal of interest from
    all over the world. The main protagonist in our story, China, was obviously
    overwhelmed that their claim to have circumnavigated and charted the world
    before the Europeans, had been substantiated by a neutral participant.
    Despite many of the records of the voyages being destroyed at the hands of
    the mandarins in the sixteenth century, there still remain several Chinese
    accounts of their achievements, although sceptics have often doubted their
    veracity. China has already hosted several conferences on Zheng He Studies,
    which Gavin Menzies attended to give keynote speeches, and was honoured by
    being awarded a visiting Professorship at the University of Yunnan, to which
    he returns several times a year to lecture. Other projects include
    television documentaries, various museums, exhibitions and amusement parks,
    an epic movie and a historical replica of one of the huge treasure ships.

    Why should we believe anything the book says?

    In total, some 34 different lines of evidence have been found to support the
    theory that the Chinese circumnavigated and charted the globe, a century
    before the Europeans staked claim to having done so. The evidence is
    overwhelming, and encompasses both physical entities (such as shipwrecks of
    Chinese junks in America, Australasia and Indonesia) and examples such as
    the carved stones of Africa, the remains of Chinese peoples in South
    America, and artefacts scattered all over the world, inscribed with Chinese
    characters, in Chinese styles, and some successfully dated back to before
    the arrival of the Europeans. There also exists more circumstantial evidence
    such as the linguistic, ceremonial and spiritual similarities between the
    Chinese culture and those of other parts of the world in the fifteenth
    century. The linguistic similarities found between place names in Peru and
    Chile are heavily supportive of the notion that the Chinese exerted a huge
    influence there, in pre-Columbian times.

    What is being done to further the research in the book?

    There are several projects that are currently under way, the results of
    which will further support claims made in ‘1421: The Year China Discovered
    The World’. Archaeological teams all over the world are excavating sites
    believed to contain relics of Chinese shipwrecks. Furthermore, the projects
    launched for the television series will play a very significant role in
    unveiling the truth about the Chinese voyages of 1421 – ’23. Since the
    launch of the website, countless researchers have come forward offering
    invaluable help and assistance, for which we are most grateful.

    Why did China fail to keep her grasp on the world after wielding such
    incredible power at the beginning of the fifteenth century?

    The difficulty in writing the book was further increased by the fact that
    the majority of Chinese records, documents and maps recounting the dramatic
    events of the 1421 – 1423 voyages were deliberately destroyed or hidden by
    the officials of the Chinese court, following an abrupt change in the
    country’s foreign policy. The thunder and lightning storm that was to reduce
    the Emperor’s palaces to a heap of smouldering rubble, as well as killing
    off many of his loyal subjects, was seen as a very bad omen, and it was to
    cause an ever-descending spiral of misfortune. With the succession of Zhu
    Di’s son to the throne came the rejection of the outside world, with China
    turning in on herself. Anything commemorating previous expansionist policies
    was expunged from the record.

    How can I find out more on the subject?

    The book has been published in 24 languages, and has been the subject of 5
    documentaries. For more information please visit the “Media” section of our
    website:

    http://www.1421.tv/news.asp

    To read the evidence we have accumulated over the years please click here:

    http://www.1421.tv/pages/evidence/index.asp

    ————

    PREVIOUS ARTICLES:

    MORE ON ADMIRAL ZHENG HE, CHINA’S COLUMBUS (10/22/2002):
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nhnenews/message/3841

    DID CHINESE BEAT COLUMBUS TO AMERICA? (3/20/2002):
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nhnenews/message/2890

    June 9, 2007 at 7:22 pm #22564
    Dog
    Participant

    Thats interesting because in the latest installment of pirates of the caribbean they had to go to china for a important map that had parts of mexico and the carribbean mapped out.. There might be a relationship. I wonder what linguistic similarities they are taking about.

    June 11, 2007 at 11:04 pm #22566
    singing ocean
    Participant

    Hmmm, very interesting. There is also a book written by Ivan Van Sertima called “The Came Before Columbus” that details a lot of evidence for african voyages to the americas earlier on. The most obvious being the olmec granite heads, but there is also a lot of other small carvings that include africans and caucasians in the same image long before recognized landing of columbus. Interesting to hear that china was a major seagoing culture as well, and probably not surprising considering the different technologies they were capable of early on.

    It seems that written history is about to change drastically. we are all still waiting for you to publish your book on Early History of the west and east.

    June 16, 2007 at 12:36 pm #22568
    Intelligence
    Participant

    Yeah, but what about Templar “pirate” 1200’s and Egyptian 3500 bc trade networks for:

    1) corn
    2) cocaine
    3) psychedelics

    secrets, ancient history (pre- Ice Age), and et

    ?

    June 23, 2007 at 1:24 pm #22570
    singing ocean
    Participant

    another source for evidence of african and european pre-discovery is Graham Hancocks “fingerprints of the gods”. He also talks a lot about (atlantean) figures quetzalcoatl, viracocha, and the founding of civilization in egypt and sumer.

    June 24, 2007 at 4:36 pm #22572
    singing ocean
    Participant

    Heres a few interesting parallels between some ancient cultures:

    Both ancient egypt, sumer and the olmecs sprung almost fully formed into being with no gradual development of language or architecture.

    Egyptians, aztecs and mayas had an all powerful system of nine deities.

    Egyptians in the “book of the dead” and Mayans in the “popol vuh” recount how the dead kings were reborn as stars. before reaching this stage however they both had to pass through nine levels of the underworld.

    the word for the ancient civilizer “oannes” that lived under the sea in Sumer is very similar to “Uan” in Mayan that means “he who resides under the sea”. Quetzalcoatl and Marduk both battled a serpent being whose body was used to create the earths landscape.

    Interesting stories, I think an important fact to remember is that even the ancient civilizers like viracocha (who were described as pale skinned and bearded – atlantean) were humans of some kind and practiced some sort of cultivation to achieve their heightened spiritual/physical existence. Life back then may have had less pressures that we are faced with in the urban world today.

    meanwhile the lemurians practiced alchemy in the mountains…

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